Gillespie scores more points per game than Cole and on considerably higher efficiency. Not sure where you are getting that Cole has better numbers? Cole averages 1 extra assist per game, but Gillespie has better rebounding numbers. His team has a better record too, which certainly helps.
Even though I hope they don’t do the participation trophy like last season, this is the year you could see having a Co-POY
Mighty strange thing to be bitching about imo.
Not bitching, just asking about the worthiness of it. I’m a big fan of this kid.
This is the full list of freshman in the Big East who played more than 10 minutes a game. Not many freshman were getting minutes
| Player | Class | Pos | School | MPG | FG% | 2P% | 3P% | FT% | PTS | TRB | AST | STL | BLK | PER | WS | BPM | |||
| Kameron Jones | FR | G | Marquette | 18.3 | 41.8% | 48.0% | 39.6% | 61.1% | 7.5 | 1.5 | 1.2 | 0.7 | 0.1 | 14.2 | 1.5 | 4.2 | |||
| Aminu Mohammed | FR | G | Georgetown | 32.1 | 37.7% | 39.0% | 30.4% | 72.1% | 13.8 | 8.1 | 1.8 | 1.7 | 0.6 | 18.1 | 2.0 | 1.9 | |||
| Stevie Mitchell | FR | G | Marquette | 10.6 | 44.9% | 49.0% | 35.0% | 56.0% | 2.8 | 1.4 | 1.0 | 0.7 | 0.1 | 12 | 0.8 | 1.8 | |||
| Trey Alexander | FR | G | Creighton | 25.3 | 43.6% | 50.9% | 28.0% | 79.6% | 6.4 | 3.7 | 2.0 | 0.6 | 0.3 | 10.4 | 1.6 | 1.7 | |||
| Jordan Hawkins | FR | G | Connecticut | 13.3 | 35.3% | 37.9% | 33.3% | 82.1% | 5.8 | 2.0 | 0.5 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 12.2 | 1.1 | 1.5 | |||
| Ryan Mutombo | FR | C | Georgetown | 10.6 | 49.6% | 50.5% | 25.0% | 72.7% | 5.3 | 3.2 | 0.1 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 21.8 | 0.9 | 1.3 | |||
| Arthur Kaluma | FR | F | Creighton | 21.8 | 45.2% | 54.9% | 26.0% | 62.0% | 9.5 | 5.0 | 1.2 | 0.5 | 0.7 | 11.9 | 1.1 | 0.8 | |||
| Jayden Taylor | FR | G | Butler | 25.1 | 38.4% | 45.0% | 30.3% | 75.6% | 8.5 | 3.0 | 1.1 | 0.7 | 0.2 | 12 | 1.5 | 0.3 | |||
| Ryan Nembhard | FR | G | Creighton | 31.3 | 40.4% | 45.8% | 31.1% | 73.2% | 11.3 | 3.1 | 4.4 | 1.3 | 0.0 | 11.1 | 1.6 | 0.1 | |||
| O'mar Stanley | FR | F | St. John's (NY) | 10.0 | 60.0% | 61.8% | 0.0% | 29.4% | 3.1 | 2.0 | 0.2 | 0.5 | 0.3 | 13.4 | 0.8 | -0.1 | |||
| Simas Lukosius | FR | G | Butler | 20.4 | 39.1% | 54.1% | 28.9% | 89.8% | 6.3 | 3.1 | 1.2 | 0.3 | 0.1 | 10.7 | 1.0 | -0.5 | |||
| Rati Andronikashvili | FR | G | Creighton | 12.0 | 22.6% | 26.3% | 16.7% | 64.0% | 1.7 | 0.9 | 1.2 | 0.5 | 0.1 | 2.9 | 0.1 | -2.4 | |||
| Jalin Billingsley | FR | F | Georgetown | 10.7 | 33.8% | 36.2% | 23.1% | 75.0% | 2.2 | 1.8 | 0.2 | 0.4 | 0.2 | 6.5 | 0.0 | -3.7 | |||
| Tyler Beard | FR | G | Georgetown | 11.7 | 32.4% | 37.8% | 24.1% | 74.3% | 2.8 | 1.4 | 1.3 | 0.3 | 0.1 | 6.3 | -0.1 | -5.0 |
I agree with all of this. I think Tyrese was more deserving of at least honorable mention. Hawkins was a surprise to me as well.
That's not bitching. I am equally surprised. Hawkins role was fairly limited this year. She shows tremendous promise, but I certainly never expected to see him named to the all freshman team.
I was pleasantly surprised, too, but I figured it was because not a lot of freshmen have played significant minutes this season due to the extra Covid season, which @navery12 has since shown.
Thank you for posting this!
You can’t even pose questions about players’ performances here because you can’t see through your rose colored glasses? It’s completely reasonable to ask why a player who scored 5 points a game playing just 13 minutes is an all league freshman. This is not about whether we root for him or like him ( yes we do). He was expected by most here to be better than what he was projected at season beginning. It didn’t happen and he still landed on the all freshman team. Asking why he deserves it is not bitching. Those are your words.
He doesn’t start though does he?
He started 10 of 24 games this season for them, most coming in the non-con schedule.
You're not wrong, but neither are those offering the complaints and asking the questions...so I'll offer the hot take that those voting consulted the Boneyard for guidance and were swayed by the wild enthusiasm for the obvious pro potential that was seen in Hawkins's instant reveal of graceful lateral quickness, a similarly sweet stroke, and that monster dunk last week...while at the same time taking note that consensus here was late to develop around Martin, with some thinking that he only dominates the weaker competition.
To be fair, Lewis was also BE 1st team, and he wasn't even an honorable mention pre-season. Came out of nowhere. His scoring average was +9 points from last year (+8 for Sanogo).
Agree. And Sanogo being honorable mention was nothing more than a poke in the eye to UConn. He should have been on the preseason 1st team. He was, at most, a little better than we expected (mostly on defense). He was doing this stuff late last season.
It is my opinion that who plays the 1st possession of a game is not the best way to determine who is the "6th man". I understand that people (and apparently voters) can disagree or be ignorant of the stats, but I think that if you play 3/4 of a team's minutes, you are a core player, not a 6th man.
Yeah, anybody paying attention late last season expected sanogo to have a massive impact this year.
I agree with you, but, to play devil's advocate, perhaps it is an unambiguous rule (at least in the minds of the voters) that anyone who is not a regular starter for his team is eligible for the 6MOY award. If that assumption is taken for granted, than Bynum is the obvious choice, no?
