Sanogo and Cole make all-Big East First Team, Hawkins all Frosh

[jayteeman]

There will be a bullseye on all the 1st team players. Just an incredible accomplishment in 2 years of Big East.
Now just prove what everyone fears, and can feel the rightful owner is here and wants his stuff back.

 

[auror]

Explain how Hawkins is all freshman. Weak group?

Yes. All the fifth years and free transfers meant less playing time for freshman all around.

 

[Matt1010]

Explain how Hawkins is all freshman. Weak group?

This one is confusing to me too, but we'll certainly take the recognition. Hopefully a nice confidence boost for him.

 

[UconnU]

Does it say who had more votes between Cole and Sanogo?

 

[HooperScooper]

Explain how Hawkins is all freshman. Weak group?

Because of the extra Covid year I don't think many freshmen got a lot of run. Villanova had a bunch of 4 star recruits who never played also.

 

[UconnU]

Because of the extra Covid year I don't think many freshmen got a lot of run. Villanova had a bunch of 4 star recruits who never played also.

Longino was playing a bunch earlier in the season. Not sure if his diminished playing time was because of injury or poor play but something changed.

 

[UconnU]

Worth noting that Creighton had the freshman of the year and 3 players total on the all freshman team. They’re going to be a major problem for the next few years as so many players around the league lose eligibility.

 

[navery12]

Longino was playing a bunch earlier in the season. Not sure if his diminished playing time was because of injury or poor play but something changed.

He barely played all year, the only games he got double digit minutes in were cupcakes and blowouts

 

[tcf15]

 

[Hurleyman216]

Cole has better numbers than Gillespie and is more important to his team, but Gillespie gets pumped by the media so he’ll win POY. He’s the most Duke-like player in the conference. I think it’s a coin flip between Cole and Gillespie for POY, but voters in the league apparently don’t. Not as criminal as when Kemba had the POY stolen from him, but still annoying

 

[awfuldan]

Cole has better numbers than Gillespie and is more important to his team, but Gillespie gets pumped by the media so he’ll win POY. He’s the most Duke-like player in the conference. I think it’s a coin flip between Cole and Gillespie for POY, but voters in the league apparently don’t. Not as criminal as when Kemba had the POY stolen from him, but still annoying

Gillespie scores more points per game than Cole and on considerably higher efficiency. Not sure where you are getting that Cole has better numbers? Cole averages 1 extra assist per game, but Gillespie has better rebounding numbers. His team has a better record too, which certainly helps.

 

[MDHuskFan]

Gillespie scores more points per game than Cole and on considerably higher efficiency. Not sure where you are getting that Cole has better numbers? Cole averages 1 extra assist per game, but Gillespie has better rebounding numbers. His team has a better record too, which certainly helps.

Even though I hope they don’t do the participation trophy like last season, this is the year you could see having a Co-POY

 

[jibsey]

I ask again about Hawkins on the all freshman team. He plays less than 15 minutes a game and scores less than 6 points. His 3 point % is 32 and fg % is 35. Shoots 80% from the line. I love the kid and defensively he has come up but he turns it over too much and that’s with him really not dribbling that much ( for that reason). To put him on that team shows that the choices were pretty bleak for that spot I’m guessing. If he played near 30 minutes a game and increased his numbers there would be a better case but did we ever have a freshman make the all freshman team with numbers like this?

 

[8893]

I ask again about Hawkins on the all freshman team. He plays less than 15 minutes a game and scores less than 6 points. His 3 point % is 32 and fg % is 35. Shoots 80% from the line. I love the kid and defensively he has come up but he turns it over too much and that’s with him really not dribbling that much ( for that reason). To put him on that team shows that the choices were pretty bleak for that spot I’m guessing. If he played near 30 minutes a game and increased his numbers there would be a better case but did we ever have a freshman make the all freshman team with numbers like this?

Mighty strange thing to be bitching about imo.

 

[HuskyFich]

I can't imagine how the the PC community took this news lol. "But but but we're the regular season champs."

Congrats to Adama, RJ & Hawk. Hopefully this is equivalent of Belichick winning the AFC championship game to them. BE Champs he we come!

 

[The Frog]

Hawkins? I mean I'm glad he is a Husky ... And will probably fill the shoes of the hype around him one day. But his freshman year was hardley even worth honorable mention... Really has been a big disappointment that we have to wait for his Sophomore leap...

 

[jibsey]

Mighty strange thing to be bitching about imo.

Not bitching, just asking about the worthiness of it. I’m a big fan of this kid.

 

[8893]

Hawkins? I mean I'm glad he is a Husky ... And will probably fill the shoes of the hype around him one day. But his freshman year was hardley even worth honorable mention... Really has been a big disappointment that we have to wait for his Sophomore leap...

Not bitching, just asking about the worthiness of it. I’m a big fan of this kid.

It's just classic Boneyard to me that we are only school to place two guys on the All-BE First Team, and the reaction of many is to complain that Tyrese got robbed and Hawkins shouldn't have been honored.

 

[navery12]

I ask again about Hawkins on the all freshman team. He plays less than 15 minutes a game and scores less than 6 points. His 3 point % is 32 and fg % is 35. Shoots 80% from the line. I love the kid and defensively he has come up but he turns it over too much and that’s with him really not dribbling that much ( for that reason). To put him on that team shows that the choices were pretty bleak for that spot I’m guessing. If he played near 30 minutes a game and increased his numbers there would be a better case but did we ever have a freshman make the all freshman team with numbers like this?

This is the full list of freshman in the Big East who played more than 10 minutes a game. Not many freshman were getting minutes

Player	Class	Pos	School	MPG		FG%	2P%	3P%	FT%		PTS	TRB	AST	STL	BLK		PER	WS	BPM
Kameron Jones	FR	G	Marquette	18.3		41.8%	48.0%	39.6%	61.1%		7.5	1.5	1.2	0.7	0.1		14.2	1.5	4.2
Aminu Mohammed	FR	G	Georgetown	32.1		37.7%	39.0%	30.4%	72.1%		13.8	8.1	1.8	1.7	0.6		18.1	2.0	1.9
Stevie Mitchell	FR	G	Marquette	10.6		44.9%	49.0%	35.0%	56.0%		2.8	1.4	1.0	0.7	0.1		12	0.8	1.8
Trey Alexander	FR	G	Creighton	25.3		43.6%	50.9%	28.0%	79.6%		6.4	3.7	2.0	0.6	0.3		10.4	1.6	1.7
Jordan Hawkins	FR	G	Connecticut	13.3		35.3%	37.9%	33.3%	82.1%		5.8	2.0	0.5	0.3	0.3		12.2	1.1	1.5
Ryan Mutombo	FR	C	Georgetown	10.6		49.6%	50.5%	25.0%	72.7%		5.3	3.2	0.1	0.2	0.9		21.8	0.9	1.3
Arthur Kaluma	FR	F	Creighton	21.8		45.2%	54.9%	26.0%	62.0%		9.5	5.0	1.2	0.5	0.7		11.9	1.1	0.8
Jayden Taylor	FR	G	Butler	25.1		38.4%	45.0%	30.3%	75.6%		8.5	3.0	1.1	0.7	0.2		12	1.5	0.3
Ryan Nembhard	FR	G	Creighton	31.3		40.4%	45.8%	31.1%	73.2%		11.3	3.1	4.4	1.3	0.0		11.1	1.6	0.1
O'mar Stanley	FR	F	St. John's (NY)	10.0		60.0%	61.8%	0.0%	29.4%		3.1	2.0	0.2	0.5	0.3		13.4	0.8	-0.1
Simas Lukosius	FR	G	Butler	20.4		39.1%	54.1%	28.9%	89.8%		6.3	3.1	1.2	0.3	0.1		10.7	1.0	-0.5
Rati Andronikashvili	FR	G	Creighton	12.0		22.6%	26.3%	16.7%	64.0%		1.7	0.9	1.2	0.5	0.1		2.9	0.1	-2.4
Jalin Billingsley	FR	F	Georgetown	10.7		33.8%	36.2%	23.1%	75.0%		2.2	1.8	0.2	0.4	0.2		6.5	0.0	-3.7
Tyler Beard	FR	G	Georgetown	11.7		32.4%	37.8%	24.1%	74.3%		2.8	1.4	1.3	0.3	0.1		6.3	-0.1	-5.0

 

[Huskybass]

Tough for Martin, few guys bring such a strong all around game. Inside, outside, rebounding, defense. Guy is a beast. Hope it fires him up. Sanogo and Cole deserve the spots. Surprised by Hawkins.

I agree with all of this. I think Tyrese was more deserving of at least honorable mention. Hawkins was a surprise to me as well.

 

[Huskybass]

Mighty strange thing to be bitching about imo.

That's not bitching. I am equally surprised. Hawkins role was fairly limited this year. She shows tremendous promise, but I certainly never expected to see him named to the all freshman team.

 

[8893]

That's not bitching. I am equally surprised. Hawkins role was fairly limited this year. She shows tremendous promise, but I certainly never expected to see him named to the all freshman team.

I was pleasantly surprised, too, but I figured it was because not a lot of freshmen have played significant minutes this season due to the extra Covid season, which @navery12 has since shown.

And if you think about it, most of us here believe that we are a different and more more formidable team when Hawkins can contribute meaningful minutes, which he has done in many of our keys wins this season. He is obviously a known quantity on other teams' scouting reports for us because he is one of only three players who you have to guard beyond the three point line.

I don't know for how many other freshmen in the league that is true. I knew about Creighton's point guard but that's about it.

 

[awfuldan]

This is the full list of freshman in the Big East who played more than 10 minutes a game. Not many freshman were getting minutes

Player	Class	Pos	School	MPG		FG%	2P%	3P%	FT%		PTS	TRB	AST	STL	BLK		PER	WS	BPM
Kameron Jones	FR	G	Marquette	18.3		41.8%	48.0%	39.6%	61.1%		7.5	1.5	1.2	0.7	0.1		14.2	1.5	4.2
Aminu Mohammed	FR	G	Georgetown	32.1		37.7%	39.0%	30.4%	72.1%		13.8	8.1	1.8	1.7	0.6		18.1	2.0	1.9
Stevie Mitchell	FR	G	Marquette	10.6		44.9%	49.0%	35.0%	56.0%		2.8	1.4	1.0	0.7	0.1		12	0.8	1.8
Trey Alexander	FR	G	Creighton	25.3		43.6%	50.9%	28.0%	79.6%		6.4	3.7	2.0	0.6	0.3		10.4	1.6	1.7
Jordan Hawkins	FR	G	Connecticut	13.3		35.3%	37.9%	33.3%	82.1%		5.8	2.0	0.5	0.3	0.3		12.2	1.1	1.5
Ryan Mutombo	FR	C	Georgetown	10.6		49.6%	50.5%	25.0%	72.7%		5.3	3.2	0.1	0.2	0.9		21.8	0.9	1.3
Arthur Kaluma	FR	F	Creighton	21.8		45.2%	54.9%	26.0%	62.0%		9.5	5.0	1.2	0.5	0.7		11.9	1.1	0.8
Jayden Taylor	FR	G	Butler	25.1		38.4%	45.0%	30.3%	75.6%		8.5	3.0	1.1	0.7	0.2		12	1.5	0.3
Ryan Nembhard	FR	G	Creighton	31.3		40.4%	45.8%	31.1%	73.2%		11.3	3.1	4.4	1.3	0.0		11.1	1.6	0.1
O'mar Stanley	FR	F	St. John's (NY)	10.0		60.0%	61.8%	0.0%	29.4%		3.1	2.0	0.2	0.5	0.3		13.4	0.8	-0.1
Simas Lukosius	FR	G	Butler	20.4		39.1%	54.1%	28.9%	89.8%		6.3	3.1	1.2	0.3	0.1		10.7	1.0	-0.5
Rati Andronikashvili	FR	G	Creighton	12.0		22.6%	26.3%	16.7%	64.0%		1.7	0.9	1.2	0.5	0.1		2.9	0.1	-2.4
Jalin Billingsley	FR	F	Georgetown	10.7		33.8%	36.2%	23.1%	75.0%		2.2	1.8	0.2	0.4	0.2		6.5	0.0	-3.7
Tyler Beard	FR	G	Georgetown	11.7		32.4%	37.8%	24.1%	74.3%		2.8	1.4	1.3	0.3	0.1		6.3	-0.1	-5.0

Thank you for posting this!

I'm not surprised that Hawkins made the cut for the All-Freshman team. Really happy for him. Kinda shocked that Lukosius didn't make the team but, looking at his numbers here, I guess he didn't have as good of a statistical season as I thought. He killed us and hit a game-winner against DePaul, so he stuck out in my head.

 

[awfuldan]

Some individual awards out today.

Kalkbrenner over Minaya (and Whaley and Posh) for DPOY. Bynum was a stone cold lock for 6MOTY. I thought Sanogo had a good shot at MIP, but Lewis makes sense.

 

[alexd]

Creighton has a nice nucleus with those three frosh. As if they didn't drive us crazy already.