I agree but for FSU to be making this noise they may have back channels telling them, "hey if you wraggle yourself free, give us a call". Have no clue if they fit the Big Ten academic profile, but they make more sense FB wise to the Big Ten than the SEC. It's a legit power FB program and would get the Big Ten into SEC territory.
I disagree about FSU and the Big10. When the Big10 wooed Maryland, they were banking on other schools signing up as well. Those schools choose to stay in the ACC. FSU was one they were courting and the Noles decided to stay with Swafford and the ACC.
You're right, they could all find soft landings, in a conference together! You can't magically place 8 teams into 3 major conferences that currently have 16 or 12 teams. So what do those teams do, form their own conference? Oh wait, they are already in one.....there aren't many seats to be had in the P2 or 3 if you wanna count the Big12. It's why I think Oregon and UW are in trouble with the 4 corner schools leave for the Big12.
Eh, when push comes to shove, I think the Big10 will take Washington. They are too good of a fit to let go somewhere else and I’m not sure the Big10 wants to be the final nail in The Pac‘s coffin. If there’s a chance they would go somewhere else or die on the vine, the Big10 would react.
Oregon does have exceptionally strong ties to Nike.
To add to this, a couple of months before Maryland announced they were leaving the ACC, a proposal to increase the exit fee from 1.25% to 3% of the annual distributions (about $21 million to $52 million at the time). This was done quickly, and unlike other bylaw changes of this type, it was to be effective immediately. Since Maryland was in negotiations with the Big Ten by then, they were obviously against it. Florida St. was also against it, because of the unethical manner in which the change was happening. It was speculated they were also interested in leaving. But their president signed a phony ACC unity letter, similar to the recent PAC letter. But the Florida St. signed two GORs as well.Right you are...
Absolutely, the draw of both Nike and their success in football are the reasons why I think they will be added.
I would think any school that wanted to leave the ACC would test the GORs before trying to leave so they would know the financial ramifications of leaving.
While I believe it will take a bit of time for everything to unravel, I firmly believe that both Oregon and Washington will end up in the B1G. For openers, I don't believe the conference would have added USC-UCLA with the plan being keeping them on an island forever. Additionally, I believe the end game is for the B1G to be a 24 school conference with four divisons with six schools. This will take at least a decade to unfold but there is little reason for the conference to rush things.
The media world has changed. Conferences used to focus on captive TV boxes in a market when the cable bundle was the driver. Going forward, conferences are going to focus on brands and rivalries that drive ratings. That makes FSU and Clemson attractive to the P2. Rutgers would be a lot less attractive today than when they joined the Big 10.
I agree with everything you say except the divisions. I believe they will gowith divisionless scheduling in the future. I to think 20 - 24 is the endgame with both East and West Coast schools in the mix. I do not think Cal is in the cards and Stanford might not be as well.
Yeah, I don’t know about that. Remember we could always announce our intention to leave and then either stay or negotiate the 30 million down. I agree with you that there are a few seats left, though, and we can’t risk being the last one standing when all the chairs are gone.
I could give a crap about the Big 12 or the PAC 12. I think the door is open right now for UConn to get an invite to the ACC in all sports. If Hurley’s boys go all the way this year, and they could, the ACC will be calling at some point. The UConn women are also very attractive to the ACC, not to mention Jim Mora and his football team. Don’t you think the ACC commish and the rest of the conference is looking for ways to prop up Boston College and Syracuse athletics?
FSU to the Big Ten is crazy, it would never happen. It’s more likely that the PAC 12 invites Guam, Saskatchewan or Cabo San Lucas. As I said in a prior post, strength in football can be fleeting
Forget the Big 12, it’s living on borrowed time. The ACC, on the other hand has some serious “smoke”, if you will.
How many years does Phil Knight have left?
How about if the big 12 invited us for basketball only.. but agreed on big 12 football teams coming to the rent… every year…cbs would probably pay us a lot more for that
He’s been a runner all his life. I would think he’s got a few left.
That’s a good point …im not saying I would want to join the big 12 under those circumstances… i like where we are with the big east… and hopefully we get paid… but that would be something to consider
Agree, although I think when most people say “basketball only” they mean basketball in the Olympics sports. That would make zero sense, because we would have the bulk of the expense of being in the big 12 without receiving the bulk of the income.
Let's give him that. Is that still enough for the B1G to make a long term investment in a school that doesn't meet its profile? Now I'm just going off of numbers that Tony Altimore laid out in terms of their overall research dollars that come up way short compared to the rest of the B1G. Washington apparently meets that profile much better.
Maybe, but there’s no way the major eastern schools are left to flounder. They will have a home. Our job is to make sure that we do as well.
True, but they may come to the conclusion that they don’t need to pay full share of conference revenue someone to fill that role.
