Rumor from CSNBBS Conference Realignment board

[whaler11]

Forget, for the time being, whether it's total fiction, or absolute fact. Does the information in the "post" have any validity as a concept; in total, in part? If a more formal version was submitted to, for arguments sake, an SNY, would it be treated as lunacy or as something that might act as a reasonable foundation for partnership? A lot of successful products and programs have been distilled from some crazy, but creative, person's too broad and inclusive LSD generated input. Properly presented to TV types, by someone with the gravitas of an SH, it might, at least, produce an evaluation. Hell, I'd vote "yes."

There is no way Fromtheinside is HFD. I will wager whatever action anyone would take. That post is coherent enough to be legitimate.

 

[whaler11]

More news from this board: http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=641725

Take it for what it is worth. I have no idea if any of it is true. I sure hope they are because the longer we are trapped in the AAC, the more screwed we are. We are better off affiliating with the BE and be indy in FB, BB and WBB, provided we schedule majority of BB and WBB games against the new BE.

Well at the very least this guy understands your value is a function of who you play.

 

[sportsart]

More news from this board: http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=641725

Take it for what it is worth. I have no idea if any of it is true. I sure hope they are because the longer we are trapped in the AAC, the more screwed we are. We are better off affiliating with the BE and be indy in FB, BB and WBB, provided we schedule majority of BB and WBB games against the new BE.

You do realize it's the same poster right? HFD......

 

[RioDog]

That is a good explanation, though I think geography counts against us, at least with FSU / Clemson / Miami. Not that the area around louisville is a recruiting hotbed that much more than CT / NE / NYC, maybe a bit, but its geography a) somewhat reinforces the (recent) positive perception around louisville's football program b) can't hurt them as far as being closer to a southern cultural fit. Having not spent time in the South apart from trips to Orlando and New Orleans, I can't say whether Lou-uh-vuhl is considered authentically southern by those schools, but I'll bet it's at least not as authentically Yankee as CT.

Having spent a charming afternoon in Rabbit Hash, Kentucky I can, with great confidence, confirm this.

Put another way (Thurston P Howell III accent), Rabbit Hash is no Cos-Cob.

 

[jostar1]

You do realize it's the same poster right? HFD......

I notice that he calls Auriemma's team "the girls". Did HFD refer to them as "the girls"?

 

[babysheep]

And where is the "good evidence" for all those who belong to a religion?

Hahahahaha i think we all know who sits where on the skeptic-accepting fantasy spectrum

 

[GG]

Silly question, but why is everyone so sure that this is HDF? My recollection of his posts is that they were incomprehensible. I literally got tired trying to make sense of them. I do not know if the posts we are discussing are legit, but I find it hard to believe that HDF write it.

 

[Hoophound]

I notice that he calls Auriemma's team "the girls". Did HFD refer to them as "the girls"?

Yes. It is HFD. There is no question. All the odd things match. If you see any mention of "puck" or "barn" you'll have final confirmation. However, he will probably avoid using either term after reading this post.

 

[babysheep]

Having spent a charming afternoon in Rabbit Hash, Kentucky I can, with great confidence, confirm this.

Put another way (Thurston P Howell III accent), Rabbit Hash is no Cos-Cob.

my family has a house in the outer banks so i have been to and through delaware, maryland, virginia and the carolinas plenty of times now. the way i see it, you judge of the state is part of the "south" based on the amount of billboards of jesus you see, how many churches have those light up signs you normally see in front of sporting venues, and how cheap cigarettes are. that being said, imo, everything south and west of nj/pa is part of the south.

 

[RioDog]

my family has a house in the outer banks so i have been to and through delaware, maryland, virginia and the carolinas plenty of times now. the way i see it, you judge of the state is part of the "south" based on the amount of billboards of jesus you see, how many churches have those light up signs you normally see in front of sporting venues, and how cheap cigarettes are. that being said, imo, everything south and west of nj/pa is part of the south.

Agreed. I would add the number of fireworks stores you see.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Agreed. I would add the number of fireworks stores you see.

Don't forget the number of Waffle Houses.

 

[noeynox]

There is no way Fromtheinside is HFD. I will wager whatever action anyone would take. That post is coherent enough to be legitimate.

There are a couple of dead guveaways. He spells of corse, and talks about pulling trains. Has to be him. Waiting for him to drop a dildo in there.

 

[whaler11]

Yes. It is HFD. There is no question. All the odd things match. If you see any mention of "puck" or "barn" you'll have final confirmation. However, he will probably avoid using either term after reading this post.

HFD did nothing but bash WM over BYU and Boise. He was so emotional he could now build a narrative around those games?

 

[NickyNewark]

UMD might not have the national titles in hoops that UConn does, but, while Lefty Drisell was there in the '70s and '80s, the Terps were one of the ACC's best programs, and, they were relevant nationally. Gary Williams did win a title for them. And, I think they'll do more than ok in the B1G with Mark Turgeon. The Terps' lacrosse program speaks for itself. Their football program does have two national titles. Granted, they are from the 1950s, but, they still have them. And, the Baltimore-Washington corridor produces good talent in football and basketball, so, they have those recruiting grounds going for them, too.

So, they have at least something to show for their efforts over time, unlike Rutgers.

@Paul Robeson!!"61"Undeafeated FB team!"76"Final 4 MBB!Much better historically and future potential!Boomer Esiason?lol

 

[itgoeslike]

@Paul Robeson!!"61"Undeafeated FB team!"76"Final 4 MBB!Much better historically and future potential!Boomer Esiason?lol

For a moment I couldn't tell if you were picking on Rutgers. . . is that the 100 year tally? . . .(just kidding Nicky, don't @me)

 

[CTBasketball]

This seems risky. I don't know if the administration and AD have the balls to do this. Lots to gain, lots to lose.

 

[SouthronCross]

The generation of positive perception has been, and I'm being kind, a major UCONN weakness. UCONN frittered away countless promotional and advertising opportunities. Starting with the FB upgrade, the rapid improvement, multiple BB championships, incredible new facilities. How could all that accomplishment be wasted? Now it's been offset by bad BB news and PP's record. The University has only itself to blame.

The current perception is all that matters. The basketball team's APR troubles, and, the football team's struggles, are what some ACC fans see at this moment. Fairly or unfairly.

I see a football team that needs a new HC, but, is putting a fair number of players into the NFL. Granted, New England is not prime recruiting ground, but, playing in the ACC would open up VA, NC, SC, GA, and FL for recruiting, which would raise your talent level significantly.

Your basketball program speaks for itself. It is one of the best in the country, and, would be a great addition to the ACC. I am not well informed about the team's APR troubles, and, I would not comment on them anyway. Right now, we UNC fans have no standing to chastise any other school about academic misconduct.

As many posters have said repeatedly, just win FB and BB games, and, the rest will take care of itself. I cannot see UConn being left out of any proposed Big 5 conference breakaway. Not with what you all have to offer.

 

[junglehusky]

hahaha this is a poster from that board named miko33

I like a good story like the next guy, but at least make it remotely reasonable. This story is utter crap because it has too many errors in assumptions. Boise will NEVER be in the PAC, yet that didn't stop our OP from trying to pull that piece of garbage out of his hat. It's silly and amusing at the same time.

 

[SouthronCross]

@Paul Robeson!!"61"Undeafeated FB team!"76"Final 4 MBB!Much better historically and future potential!Boomer Esiason?lol

UMD has 2 football MNCs (1951, 1953), and, B2B Final Four appearances (2001-2002), with a national title in '02. Not to mention, roughly a half dozen men's lacrosse titles. Boomer Esiasion won the ACC title his senior year in college, and, took his Cincinnati Benglas team to the Super Bowl. Has any Rutgers QB ever done that?

If you want to make a H2H comparison of the UMD and RU athletic departments' accomplishments, please, go ahead. I feel pretty safe in saying that RU will be shown to be lacking.

As for the 'future potential' you mention, thats fanspeak for 'ain't done ---- yet.'

 

[CAHUSKY]

The current perception is all that matters. The basketball team's APR troubles, and, the football team's struggles, are what some ACC fans see at this moment. Fairly or unfairly.

I see a football team that needs a new HC, but, is putting a fair number of players into the NFL. Granted, New England is not prime recruiting ground, but, playing in the ACC would open up VA, NC, SC, GA, and FL for recruiting, which would raise your talent level significantly.

Your basketball program speaks for itself. It is one of the best in the country, and, would be a great addition to the ACC. I am not well informed about the team's APR troubles, and, I would not comment on them anyway. Right now, we UNC fans have no standing to chastise any other school about academic misconduct.

As many posters have said repeatedly, just win FB and BB games, and, the rest will take care of itself. I cannot see UConn being left out of any proposed Big 5 conference breakaway. Not with what you all have to offer.

A UNC fan says the world looks down on Uconn because of APR. The irony is unbelievable. Also because of an under performing football team? Again, irony so thick you have to cut it with a knife.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Speak for yourself. Some of us aren't gullible, suggestable, and prone to knee-jerk reactions.

I get you are mad about where we are. IT IS NOT MY FAULT, so why don't you just chill out?

Now I remember why I don't post on the Conference Realignment Board. Rather than discuss alternatives for the current situation or at least assess what may happen, we have 10 pages in this thread of mostly posters attacking other posters.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

A UNC fan says the world looks down on Uconn because of APR. The irony is unbelievable. Also because of an under performing football team? Again, irony so thick you have to cut it with a knife.

The guy made it pretty clear it wasn't his opinion and he goes on to say UNC has no standing to talk about any other school's APR.

I don't really find anything he wrong or offensive.

 

[CAHUSKY]

The guy made it pretty clear it wasn't his opinion and he goes on to say UNC has no standing to talk about any other school's APR.

I don't really find anything he wrong or offensive.

I hate everything UNC since they skated with the most egregious ncaa violation I've ever seen. Therefore, I don't care if its his opinion. I just hate him for being a Tar Heel.

 

[NickyNewark]

UMD has 2 football MNCs (1951, 1953), and, B2B Final Four appearances (2001-2002), with a national title in '02. Not to mention, roughly a half dozen men's lacrosse titles. Boomer Esiasion won the ACC title his senior year in college, and, took his Cincinnati Benglas team to the Super Bowl. Has any Rutgers QB ever done that?

If you want to make a H2H comparison of the UMD and RU athletic departments' accomplishments, please, go ahead. I feel pretty safe in saying that RU will be shown to be lacking.

As for the 'future potential' you mention, thats fanspeak for 'ain't done ---- yet.'

No one in the East cares about Md!!

 

[The Funster]

It may or may not be HFD but it is definitely not the original FromtheInside that nelson helped chase off. He's kvetching about posters attacking other posters but he's usually amongst the worst offenders.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Agreed. I would add the number of fireworks stores you see.

So New Hampshire is a ‘Southern’ State?

 

[AZHuskiePop]

No one in the East cares about Md!!

Nicky. I'ave been a big Rutgers supporter as I think given the right competition they will thrive in the B1G.
I also think the addition of UConn to the B1G would have been impossible without Rutgers. Some would agrue that's its still impossible but with you guys in their may be hope. Anyone who knows the B1G knows the rivalries within the league are important . Even games like Purdue vs Indiana or Minn vs Wisconsin add to the lore.
The B1G Apple battle will actually be of greater importance as it has the possibility to energize the Tri-State area. One of the largest demographics in the country..
Rutgers should realize Maryland has a much wider national name recognition than Rutgers.
For the current fan (remember football fans and basketball fan of a team are frequently the same) UConn by virtue of its recent success has better name recognition than Rutgers.
Many fans outside the NE thought Rutgers was an elite private school. I had to explain you were a flagship state university of a pretty big state.



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[Stinger92860]

It may or may not be HFD but it is definitely not the original FromtheInside that nelson helped chase off. He's kvetching about posters attacking other posters but he's usually amongst the worst offenders.

That crazy list of teams moving is vintage HFD. It has to be him.

 

[frankthetank]

How long before frank pi$$es all over this?

Nice. I actually think that UConn would explore independence IF that was the only way to move up to "Division 4". Being independent for football and playing Big East basketball isn't entirely implausible. What doesn't jive in the OP's linked thread is the notion that UConn would be negotiating with the SEC and Pac-12 as conferences to play games. That should be a tell-tale sign of how the story is bogus - the SEC can't even get its own members to play a 9th conference game because their schools value their non-conference scheduling autonomy so fiercely and the Pac-12 dropped an alliance with the Big Ten because many of its members didn't like the lack of non-conference scheduling flexibility, too. If the story hadn't gone that far and simply stated that some individual SEC and Pac-12 schools were interested in playing UConn, then that would at least been a bit more believable. Suggesting that the conference offices would have anything to do with scheduling UConn, though, is fairly ridiculous (and I think most people here know that).

Much like ACC destruction stories spun out of West Virginia over the past year, the story takes an overarching scenario that's plausible ("The Big 12 wants to expand! UConn wants to go independent!") and fills it up with a web of details that are intoxicating for people that need to see conference realignment moving again. Like I've said, I would actually expect UConn to explore the possibility of independence if that's the only way that they can play at the "Division 4" level. I just don't expect any power conferences (emphasis on conference offices as opposed to individual power conference schools making individual scheduling choices) to help UConn do it.

 

[epark88]

Oh that was just a tinkle, Frank...

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