Well you want us to still hate him? What should we do if we can't afford a time machine?I find it hypocritical that, now after four titles, Sox fans feel bad that he was treated poorly and is being remembered for that one play.
Maybe they shouldn’t have been such a bunch of jack holes to the guy for decades in the first place.
I saw on twitter today that when he came back to the team in 1990 that the crowd that day gave him a standing O. Honestly once Shaughnessy coined the Bambino Curse and that started being more mainstream i think that villifying him became en vogue.What an idiotic thing for that guy to say, it's this type of cr@p that made Buckner and his family go through hell.
In fairness to the Red Sox I read they did invite him back for an '86 team reunion but Buckner declined. The damage had already been done by the media and fans.
That is absolutely insane.
Any way, glad the guy got to live long enough to see a few championships. I wonder if he felt any vindication after Boston's first 'ship. Thing is, there are so many errors that lead to losses in championship games, that one was just magnified to the extreme which was unfair. I liked him on Curb your enthusiasm too, anyone catch that episode?
What an idiotic thing for that guy to say, it's this type of cr@p that made Buckner and his family go through hell.
In fairness to the Red Sox I read they did invite him back for an '86 team reunion but Buckner declined. The damage had already been done by the media and fans.
The biggest mistake may have been made by the manager. John McNamara had been using Dave Stapleton as a late inning defensive sub for Buckner all year, and didn't do it that night, probably as a sentimental "I want Bill on the field when we win it" decision.For what it's worth, as a die-hard Sox fan in '86 I was devastated by the loss, and thought Buckner should have at least blocked the ball, but didn't hold him responsible for the loss. The pitching and a couple of seeing-eye grounders and soft bloopers did them in earlier, before the Mookie Wilson grounder of infamy. If he knocks it down, Mookie beats the play at first anyway, and there's another batter to face. But it was already a tie game at that point.
RIP Bill Buckner. In the majors at 19 - when do you see that anymore? Hell of a career in baseball.
Don't know what to say. I can't imagine what your wife and your whole family must be going through. I wish you and your family the best during these tough times.My wife's is Frontaltemporal. In 2 1/2 years since diagnosis she is already well into stage 7 of 7. When diagnosed she was given up to 10 years. Last May less than 2. Really progressed rapidly.
We live in a county where, in most jurisdictions, they make you use a seat belt, possessing weed is illegal, there's mandatory trans-fat labelling, childhood fatassedness is rampant and ignored, and, to top it all, an acutely addictive drug is legal to purchase at virtually every minimart, convenience store, gas station, and supermarket in the nation.The US government has spent $6 trillion on the War on Terror. . . . Lewy body dementia or Alzheimers, or ALS, or cancer, autism . . . . could benefit from a chunk of that $6 trillion.
Well you want us to still hate him? What should we do if we can't afford a time machine?
Bob Stanley and Calvin Schiraldi, and a piss-poor bullpen. It was never about Billy Buckner or a “little roller up along first”.For what it's worth, as a die-hard Sox fan in '86 I was devastated by the loss, and thought Buckner should have at least blocked the ball, but didn't hold him responsible for the loss. The pitching and a couple of seeing-eye grounders and soft bloopers did them in earlier, before the Mookie Wilson grounder of infamy. If he knocks it down, Mookie beats the play at first anyway, and there's another batter to face. But it was already a tie game at that point.
RIP Bill Buckner. In the majors at 19 - when do you see that anymore? Hell of a career in baseball.
Since you took this off the rails, nicotine isn't what makes you sick and kills you. Cigarettes suck but not because of nicotine.We live in a county where, in most jurisdictions, they make you use a seat belt, possessing weed is illegal, there's mandatory trans-fat labelling, childhood fatassedness is rampant and ignored, and, to top it all, an acutely addictive drug is legal to purchase at virtually every minimart, convenience store, gas station, and supermarket in the nation.
That addictive drug is packaged, variously, in cancer inducing, cell damaging packaging, including, but not limited to, tobacco leaves, gum, vapor, patches, and the like.
The use of tobacco results in, approximately, one half a million deaths per year. Since the never-ending war on something or other began in 01, that means that about 9 million Americans have died from tobacco use.
Smoking related yearly costs are about 300 billion. That is likely an underestimate. Since 01, that is about 6 trillion, which, you'll note, is about the same as what is spent on the never ending war on something or other.
How is it possible that, in a country where there are thousands of images of violent gun deaths broadcast over TV and Internet media every day, but where the inclusion of an image of hooters or flaccid johnsons causes the populace to instantly lose its collective mind, there isn't the will to simply pass a one sentence law to make that abomination illegal?
Because, . . .
It's not about life. It's not about saving. It never has been. Never will be. It's the human condition, carved into our DNA, not subject to change without a concomitant change in DNA.
I know plenty who would admit that. So you’re just assuming per usualNo. But “magically” no Sox fans are ever in the pool of Sox fans who made Buckners life hell for years. Just admit you treated the guy like garbage and that’s why his legacy is what it is.
Peter Frampton does not have Lewy body dementia. He has been diagnosed with Inclusion Body Myositis which affects the muscles but does not affect the brain or lungs. He expects to be playing the guitar for quite some time but not at the level he holds himself to be able to play in a concert setting. Unfortunately this is a condition with no known cure.
I know plenty who would admit that. So you’re just assuming per usual
Not sure if this was mentioned yet but the guy, in 22 years, never struck out 3 times in a game. 2715 hits and a respectable .287 BA.
i just said there were plenty of people who would admit that. I did. So i just proved you wrong.Right. Everyone "knows other people" who caused the guy to move his family to remote Idaho....but no one actually did it themselves.
I was 19 in 1986. I grew up as a Mets fans watching pretty much all of Sox Nation on the guy for 20 years. Now they all have open arms and feel guilty for doing it.
i just said there were plenty of people who would admit that. I did. So i just proved you wrong.
They wouldn't have had to admit it they were actively hating him until 04. You can't "forgive" if you've never hated in the first place which is why Deepster is wrong saying no one would admit to being an assWould any fans have admitted it if 2004 and thereafter didn't happen though? Maybe finally yesterday but I doubt too much would have been accomplished until then.
Before my time, and certainly before your time, those fans spent 3 hours of every summer day glued to how the Red Sox were doing, TV and radio. With so much time invested, the devastation could only be expected, since they were 1 strike away. It's understandable. I wasn't even born in '67. But I was around during the 1970s, and I wasn't even in Boston or Massachusetts, but even in Connecticut during the summers of 1975-1978, people were just glued to all things Yankees and Red Sox. It was pretty intense. I don't think O'Donnell lost his sense of perspective. He just knew how much of Boston had gone into the Red Sox.
Incorrect. Cigarettes suck specifically and only because of nicotine.Cigarettes suck but not because of nicotine.