Report: Notre Dame in Talks to Join ACC as Full Member

[billybud]

Won't happen for eight more years, if it did happen.

"We wanted there to be stability in the system," Hancock told reporters at ESPN upfronts. "We wanted people to grow to love it and understand it. And we did 12 years on purpose. In our group of commissioners, I don't sense anybody wanting to go to eight—or our board, the presidents. They're delighted with where we are."

 

[Zissou]

Won't happen for eight more years, if it did happen.

Nothing is ever that certain. If we have a few more years like this past year (Penn State beats Ohio State, wins B1G championship, doesn't go to the CFP) with real controversy on who gets left out, we'll see.

A few years ago the mantra was "Conference Championships matter".

 

[huskyrob1]

Never said is was ND's job to give UConn a decent Fb program. Don't know where you got that conclusion.

I'll say it again - ND will take care of ND. ND doesn't care about anyone else, including the ACC.

The ACC has passed us over twice. I don't see us in the ACC.

We don't play them much in Football, but IIRC we did beat them a few years ago.

 

[Seaa Blue]

What benefits does being an independent have? Other than the NBC deal.

Without ND, the DoJ and IRS busybodies would be crawling all over the money being pulled in by big-boy college football. Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.

 

[nd73]

We don't play them much in Football, but IIRC we did beat them a few years ago.

Thank you for that. Finished Weis off.
Problem is at least Weis loved ND, BK is just kinda of a jerk.

 

[Seaa Blue]

Thank you for that. Finished Weis off.
Problem is at least Weis loved ND, BK is just kinda of a jerk.

That is a really interesting take on BK. I mean, it's one thing for me to say that, another to start hearing that from the Notre Dame faithful.

I thought Swarbrick was satisfied with the vibe he was getting from the locker room.

 

[nd73]

That is a really interesting take on BK. I mean, it's one thing for me to say that, another to start hearing that from the Notre Dame faithful.

I thought Swarbrick was satisfied with the vibe he was getting from the locker room.

Kelly is baaaaaaadddddd, not just coach but I don't like him as a person. He treats players like poop

 

[ivrytontusker]

That is a really interesting take on BK. I mean, it's one thing for me to say that, another to start hearing that from the Notre Dame faithful.

I thought Swarbrick was satisfied with the vibe he was getting from the locker room.

Swarbrick is a fool, and having hired Kelly he doesn't want to fire him and admit he made a mistake.

 

[Ldandy]

Kelly is baaaaaaadddddd, not just coach but I don't like him as a person. He treats players like poop

Not true. He's a great guy. Just ask his assistants. I think you guys should keep him forever.

 

[huskyrob1]

The playoff will probably move to 8 teams in a few years. This means that there will be spots for the P5 conference champions and 3 others. A 12-0 or 11-1 (or even 10-2) ND team will almost always get in.

I can't remember an undefeated ND team. They really have sucked on the field the past few years. A parade of coaches has not helped either. They can't remain independent and keep stinking up the field. That's why they're talking now with the ACC. If they joined the B1G they'd never see post season play again and they know it.

 

[billybud]

The Irish are four seasons removed from the BCS Championship game....have had one double digit win season since..and last year was craptastic.

But, if they recruit well, they can rebound...and they had a 2017 class ranked #13 and their 2018 class is currently #5...(Rivals)

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

The Irish are four seasons removed from the BCS Championship game....have had one double digit win season since..and last year was craptastic.

But, if they recruit well, they can rebound...and they had a 2017 class ranked #13 and their 2018 class is currently #5...(Rivals)

Don't get too excited about Notre Dame's overall recruiting rating - there's always inflation with them so as to drive mag sales and site clicks.

 

[huskyrob1]

The Irish are four seasons removed from the BCS Championship game....have had one double digit win season since..and last year was craptastic.

But, if they recruit well, they can rebound...and they had a 2017 class ranked #13 and their 2018 class is currently #5...(Rivals)

Recruiting rankings don't mean sh ****t, just ask Kevin Ollie. Prove it on the field. Willingham, Weiss, Kelly, heck even Bob Diaco can't help them.

 

[amory]

Maybe we could just stop this now before it gets started.... I really want to enjoy my summer!

We're not getting into the ACC

Continue to ignore """CR""" as it involves UConn. You'll always come away disappointed.

 

[djct1999]

Talk about a school and a program that is backwards thinking. Lets say Alabama is Amazon. Michigan/Ohio State can be Google. ND is Yahoo. IF they continue to live in the past, they will be left in the dust. Can't wait to see where ND falls 10-15 years from now. My guess is far below most Domers can possibly imagine.

 

[ivrytontusker]

I can't remember an undefeated ND team. They really have sucked on the field the past few years. A parade of coaches has not helped either. They can't remain independent and keep stinking up the field. That's why they're talking now with the ACC. If they joined the B1G they'd never see post season play again and they know it.

Talk about a school and a program that is backwards thinking. Lets say Alabama is Amazon. Michigan/Ohio State can be Google. ND is Yahoo. IF they continue to live in the past, they will be left in the dust. Can't wait to see where ND falls 10-15 years from now. My guess is far below most Domers can possibly imagine.

When was Michigan's last consensus title, again? So who is living in the past? Hire a good coach at a good program and you'll win- simple as that. Part of the issue is scheduling. Michigan "vetoed" ND's Big 10 membership bid in 1926. The consequence of this was that ND was locked out of its natural landing spot and had to develop rivalries with other schools, such as Stanford, USC, and Navy. Most schools' main rival is either in-state or in-conference, or both. All of ND's main rivals are in other conferences and other states. Joining a conference would make keeping up those games difficult.

In any case, the value of the brand is not particularly determined by championships. Some of the most valuable brands in sports have had extremely long hiatuses between titles: see the Red Sox (1918-2004), the Cubs (1908-2016), the Cowboys (1995-present), Alabama football (1992-2009), Ohio State football (1970-2002), Michigan football (1948-present), and Texas football (1970-2005).

The ability to succeed as an independent is based on the ability to command viewership on NBC. If the viewers aren't there, NBC won't sign the contract. People resent the fact that ND hasn't been "relevant" but still draws viewers. And many more people in Chicago cared about the Cubs rather than the White Sox prior to last year, even though the White Sox had been more successful. That's just the way it goes.

 

[HuskyinWRNY]

ND is not joining the ACC ever. HOWEVER If they did there's a 97% percent chance UConn comes with them. Only other realistic contenders are Cincy and the directional FL schools. I don't see Miami or FSU wanting to legitimize the other schools by welcoming them into the league and while Cincy is always solid in FB and MBB they just don't have the cache we do. While they'd be a Midwest partner to ND and UL I don't see it. Maybe Houston gets a half look but although they are in one of the biggest markets in the country they are like the 5th most popular team in that market. ECU is NC St with worse academics. Temple will always come up in this type of discussion but their commitment to athletics is very suspect. They don't even play baseball anymore which is a very popular sport in the ACC and oh btw UConn has a damn good program going. Long story short; if ND joins the ACC, yes UConn is a shoe-in.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Seaa Blue]

When was Michigan's last consensus title, again? So who is living in the past? Hire a good coach at a good program and you'll win- simple as that. Part of the issue is scheduling. Michigan "vetoed" ND's Big 10 membership bid in 1926. The consequence of this was that ND was locked out of its natural landing spot and had to develop rivalries with other schools, such as Stanford, USC, and Navy. Most schools' main rival is either in-state or in-conference, or both. All of ND's main rivals are in other conferences and other states. Joining a conference would make keeping up those games difficult.

In any case, the value of the brand is not particularly determined by championships. Some of the most valuable brands in sports have had extremely long hiatuses between titles: see the Red Sox (1918-2004), the Cubs (1908-2016), the Cowboys (1995-present), Alabama football (1992-2009), Ohio State football (1970-2002), Michigan football (1948-present), and Texas football (1970-2005).

The ability to succeed as an independent is based on the ability to command viewership on NBC. If the viewers aren't there, NBC won't sign the contract. People resent the fact that ND hasn't been "relevant" but still draws viewers. And many more people in Chicago cared about the Cubs rather than the White Sox prior to last year, even though the White Sox had been more successful. That's just the way it goes.

Not sure why you want to exclude the 1997 title.

No one ever did Notre Dame a bigger favor than Michigan coach Fielding Yost keeping Notre Dame independent and traveling the country.

 

[ivrytontusker]

Not sure why you want to exclude the 1997 title.

No one ever did Notre Dame a bigger favor than Michigan coach Fielding Yost keeping Notre Dame independent and traveling the country.

The 1997 title was not a consensus title. Michigan claims it, sure. Alabama claims the 1973 title. Etc. It's .5 of a title.

 

[billybud]

Michigan was AP #1
Nebraska Coaches #1

 

[Seaa Blue]

The 1997 title was not a consensus title. Michigan claims it, sure. Alabama claims the 1973 title. Etc. It's .5 of a title.

That Bama title was awarded at the end of the regular season. They then took a loss at the hands of ND in the Sugar Bowl.

That .5 does not equal Michigan's .5.

 

[huskymedic]

Dick Weiss‏ @HoopsWeiss 56m 56 minutes ago
tim brando of fox reporting notre dame in conversations to become full time acc member.

Tim Brando‏ @TimBrando 13m 13 minutes ago
Replying to @HoopsWeiss
Let's pump the breaks here Hoops! I've stated there have been discussions, informal yes, but it's my strong opinion it's a matter of time.

 

[ivrytontusker]

That Bama title was awarded at the end of the regular season. They then took a loss at the hands of ND in the Sugar Bowl.

That .5 does not equal Michigan's .5.

I would say that prior to 1998 when (1) there is an AP/Coaches' split and (2) the two teams did not play each other it has to be a ".5 title" situation. In any case, even if we give Michigan the 1997 title it doesn't change the bottom line, which is that Michigan "lives in the past" at least as much as ND does.

 

[Seaa Blue]

I would say that prior to 1998 when (1) there is an AP/Coaches' split and (2) the two teams did not play each other it has to be a ".5 title" situation. In any case, even if we give Michigan the 1997 title it doesn't change the bottom line, which is that Michigan "lives in the past" at least as much as ND does.

All I can do is smile on that one,

 

[billybud]

Michigan gets respect.

After all, Harbaugh is recognized by the media as one of college's great coaches...and he hasn't yet won a conference title, well,, actually a conference division title.

 

[ivrytontusker]

All I can do is smile on that one,

And all I can do is wait for Michigan to beat Ohio State again. It doesn't happen very often. Until they do, what are we really talking about, anyway?

 

[TerryD]

I can't remember an undefeated ND team. They really have sucked on the field the past few years. A parade of coaches has not helped either. They can't remain independent and keep stinking up the field. That's why they're talking now with the ACC. If they joined the B1G they'd never see post season play again and they know it.

2012---12-1 (undefeated regular season, crushed by Bama)

2013--9-4

2014--8-5 (beat LSU in bowl)

2015--10-3 (2 pt. road losses Clemson/Stanford)

2016 --4-8 (Kelly should be fired)

ND is 59-31 since 2010 under Brian Kelly.

Not elite, by far, but not "really sucked on the field the past few years", either.

 

[NE Football]

ACC network is projected to bring an extra 15 million per school. That is a very good reason for ND to join.

That amount of money could lure Penn St to join the ACC as the 16th member. If/when the Big 12 breaks up WVU could end up in the ACC. I don't see any chance of another northeast school given the huge opposition from the southern schools. The only exception would be if ND convinced the ACC to add Navy. USF could be a possible addition as well.

Most likely WVU to the ACC as #16 and Texas, TT, Ok St & KSU to the PAC 12 and OU and KU to the B1G. SEC adds two more Texas schools out of Baylor, TCU and Houston. ISU to the AAC and maybe BYU.

 

[dayooper]

ACC network is projected to bring an extra 15 million per school. That is a very good reason for ND to join.

That amount of money could lure Penn St to join the ACC as the 16th member. If/when the Big 12 breaks up WVU could end up in the ACC. I don't see any chance of another northeast school given the huge opposition from the southern schools. The only exception would be if ND convinced the ACC to add Navy. USF could be a possible addition as well.

Most likely WVU to the ACC as #16 and Texas, TT, Ok St & KSU to the PAC 12 and OU and KU to the B1G. SEC adds two more Texas schools out of Baylor, TCU and Houston. ISU to the AAC and maybe BYU.

Where is the extra 15 million per school coming from?

 

[HuskyPete]

The New ACC North Division

Syracuse
Boston College
Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Norte Dame
Louisville
Virginia Tech
Virginia
Does has a old Big East tone to it, really need to make this happen.