Replacing HuskyFanDan & Plea to Athletic Department

[whaler11]

So you'd rather play Tulsa/UCF/Temple/SMU/Houston/UMass on a regular basis instead. Shoot - we still need to find 6 legit games scheduling wise which obviously some of you don't seem to get...

You don't seem to get that those teams are way better than what youd schedule as an independent. And guess what - half your conference games are at home!

They can't schedule a single game. Yet you think they can schedule 12.

 

[jostar1]

What did I miss? What happened to HFD?

His swan song is on the football board.
I enjoyed reading his posts.
I think we need to cut people some slack, including OP. Realignment is enough to drive anyone crazy.

 

[Hoophound]

His swan song is on the football board.
I enjoyed reading his posts.
I think we need to cut people some slack, including OP. Realignment is enough to drive anyone crazy.

I'm pretty sure he is posting here and there. He's just talking sports and skipping realignment rants.

 

[UConnDan97]

HFD is HFD. No wait, UConn07 is HFD. F#$k that, I'm HFD!!!

 

[Adios]

HFD my ass.

 

[sportsart]

We are not a MAC school

Yet....

 

[zls44]

But I also think Tulane and Memphis can better their football programs, easily.

If its so easy, why the duck don't they do it already?

 

[zls44]

I have not a clue who kate Upton is.

I feel like this is one of those charity ads, where we are helping some poor victim get clean water and fresh food.

No idea who Kate Upton is??!?!!!?! You poor, poor man.

 

[Fishy]

I thought of Mila Kunis but was afraid I would misspell it. I have not a clue who kate Upton is.

As I've said before, not a pop culture guy.

Don't sweat it - I have no idea who she is either and I'm the best and brightest person here.

Of course, I know how to spell Mila Kunis' name because, again, I am the best and brightest person here.

 

[Adios]

If its so easy, why the duck don't they do it already?

From what I've seen, at least Tulane's recruiting has been trending upwards. They are building a new stadium. Memphis need to get to work on their program.

 

[UConn07]

You're leaving out USF, Memphis, and Cincinnati. The latter two which have very good basketball. There is also ECU. Not great, but overall not the nightmare independence would bring.

So we should join a conference for football because 2 schools have decent basketball? Keep the current rivlaries in basketball by joining the C7. The addition of Butler and Xavier alone, along with UConn make that conference the 2nd best conf in basketball. Go indy for football and beef up the schedule with powerhouses to make a name for yourself WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE NEXT CONF SHIFT. We would be independent for 2 years at the most. I think we all agree that UConn will end up either in the Big Ten or the ACC, it's just a matter of time. In the mean time, you have to keep your fans interested, while making a name for yourself on the big stage. Scheduling legit teams, will guarantee at least 3 games get picked up by a national network. We have a deal with SNY, there is no doubt in my mind they will broadcast our other 9 games.

 

[UConn07]

Plus there is absolutely no way you can develop rivalries with schools that you play once every 5-10 years. Give me a schedule with Cincinnati, Temple, and USF on it over Idaho, Ohio, and Western Kentucky every year because we've gone to battle against those schools before.

I don't think you get it - we aren't looking long term with this independent move. It's a stop gap move while we get into another conference. We can continue to play Cincinnati. I would rather not play football than attempt to develop a rivalry with Temple, quite honestly. We have a rival. Its name is Boston College. We have a 2nd rival not on the same level as Rutgers. We will create new rivlaries in our new conference. This independence move would be a signal to the rest of the college football world that UConn is not settling for Tulsa and UMass.

 

[noeynox]

Just stop. If its a stop gap measure as you say, for "two years at the most" what is the point of separating the sports to play Seton Hall and Depaul etc? Just stick with your other point that you'd rather just do away with football. The idea that in the next two years you can load up your football schedule with power houses can't possibly make sense to you or you have no idea how hard is to schedule football games.

 

[UConn07]

Just stop. If its a stop gap measure as you say, for "two years at the most" what is the point of separating the sports to play Seton Hall and Depaul etc? Just stick with your other point that you'd rather just do away with football. The idea that in the next two years you can load up your football schedule with power houses can't possibly make sense to you or you have no idea how hard is to schedule football games.

To keep fans interested. Ticket sales is obviously a problem in all sports. Playing Tulsa and Tulane instead of Lousiville and Syracuse and you take a major hit there. Playing Butler and Georgetown is not a large drop off. In addition, you don't have to deal with the perceived downgrade of your football program by playing conf games against Tulane and SMU and Memphis. Please - thats a third of a football conference that has no business being at the level UConn is. Same with Tulsa. UCF, yes, has potential, but we are talking about an important next two years for the athletic department as a whole.

 

[noeynox]

Bro there is nothing wrong with being a basketball guy first, and if it means disbanding the football program to keep the basketball in top notch conference so be it. I don't agree with that but if that is your viewpoint you are certainly entitled to it. But just understand that football schedules are by and large filled years in advance (except for us but that's another thread). There is no way you aren't playing a football schedule like the one coach cap posted earlier for the next two years if you went independent. Want to talk about staying interested then? Are you football season ticket holder?

 

[UCFBfan]

To keep fans interested. Ticket sales is obviously a problem in all sports. Playing Tulsa and Tulane instead of Lousiville and Syracuse and you take a major hit there. Playing Butler and Georgetown is not a large drop off. In addition, you don't have to deal with the perceived downgrade of your football program by playing conf games against Tulane and SMU and Memphis. Please - thats a third of a football conference that has no business being at the level UConn is. Same with Tulsa. UCF, yes, has potential, but we are talking about an important next two years for the athletic department as a whole.

Seriously.....just stfu already. You will not fill a schedule with teams people want to see if you go Indy. You think ticket sales will drop for Tulane and Memphis? Just wait until your Indy schedule of Western Kentucky and Idaho packs the Rent! The stop gap you refer to is called the NBE and that's the bottom line. Now stop wasting our time and move on.

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[UConn07]

Bro there is nothing wrong with being a basketball guy first, and if it means disbanding the football program to keep the basketball in top notch conference so be it. I don't agree with that but if that is your viewpoint you are certainly entitled to it. But just understand that football schedules are by and large filled years in advance (except for us but that's another thread). There is no way you aren't playing a football schedule like the one coach cap posted earlier for the next two years if you went independent. Want to talk about staying interested then? Are you football season ticket holder?

Season ticket holder and other ties to the football program. Not a basketball guy first. I'm also looking for what's best for the entire athletic department. I don't think wasting money to travel to Texas and Oklahoma and New Orleans four times a year for baseball, softball, field hockey is a smart business plan. But call me insane.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I don't think you get it - we aren't looking long term with this independent move. It's a stop gap move while we get into another conference. We can continue to play Cincinnati. I would rather not play football than attempt to develop a rivalry with Temple, quite honestly. We have a rival. Its name is Boston College. We have a 2nd rival not on the same level as Rutgers. We will create new rivlaries in our new conference. This independence move would be a signal to the rest of the college football world that UConn is not settling for Tulsa and UMass.

I don't think you get it. The fact that we were left out of the big conferences suggests strongly that there are lots of schools out there that do not like UConn. BC is definitely not going to play us. So going independent is a non-starter. I don't know how that nonsense got started. Blauds didn't suggest it, he suggested that UConn and Cinci were exploring the idea of joining the C7 and seeing if the MWC would take them for football only. That idea has some merit, as the football is comparable to the NNNBE, and the basketball would be better. C7 and independent is just plain stupid.

Bitch about "settling" for Tulsa if you want, but given that they have played in two Sugar Bowls and an Orange Bowl, I wonder whether they want to settle for playing UConn. They clocked Iowa State in the Liberty Bowl this year.

 

[UConn07]

I don't think you get it. The fact that we were left out of the big conferences suggests strongly that there are lots of schools out there that do not like UConn. BC is definitely not going to play us. So going independent is a non-starter. I don't know how that nonsense got started. Blauds didn't suggest it, he suggested that UConn and Cinci were exploring the idea of joining the C7 and seeing if the MWC would take them for football only. That idea has some merit, as the football is comparable to the NNNBE, and the basketball would be better. C7 and independent is just plain stupid.

Bitch about "settling" for Tulsa if you want, but given that they have played in two Sugar Bowls and an Orange Bowl, I wonder whether they want to settle for playing UConn. They clocked Iowa State in the Liberty Bowl this year.

Well - SMU has been to 4 Cotton Bowls, a Rose Bowl and 2 Sun Bowls, but that doesn't do much for people these days.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Well - SMU has been to 4 Cotton Bowls, a Rose Bowl and 2 Sun Bowls, but that doesn't do much for people these days.

It should. They also won a freaking national championship. I sure as hell remember Dickerson and Craig James. Possibly the best backfield in history. Like Tulsa and Tulane, it's also a damned fine university. I have less interest in Memphis and ECU, which have both no real history, nor are quality institutions. I certainly wouldn't want my daughter to go to either school. But SMU, Tulane and Tulsa are not schools that UConn can look down on.

 

[UConn07]

It should. They also won a freaking national championship. I sure as hell remember Dickerson and Craig James. Possibly the best backfield in history. Like Tulsa and Tulane, it's also a damned fine university. I have less interest in Memphis and ECU, which have both no real history, nor are quality institutions. I certainly wouldn't want my daughter to go to either school. But SMU, Tulane and Tulsa are not schools that UConn can look down on.

As we have come to find out - reality and perception are two different things and in conference realignment that has been a huge decision maker for institutions and conferences. UConn needs to create the perception that they are above these other schools or face the fact that they could create a situation where they get passed over again. I don't think anyone wants that.

 

[coachcap]

As we have come to find out - reality and perception are two different things and in conference realignment that has been a huge decision maker for institutions and conferences. UConn needs to create the perception that they are above these other schools or face the fact that they could create a situation where they get passed over again. I don't think anyone wants that.

The way to "create the perception that they are above these other schools" is to play against them & continually beat them convincingly, such as the UConn women did against Duke the other night. Build up that kind of resume whereby the B1G, ACC, Big-12-16 can't possibly overlook the Huskies in the next phase of CR.

 

[CL82]

The Seven Stages of Conference Realignment

1. SHOCK & DENIAL-
You will probably react to learning of the loss of yet another conference member with numbed disbelief. You may deny the reality of the loss at some level, in order to avoid the pain. Belief in a secret plan that will bring UConn to the Big 10 is typical in this stage. This may last for weeks.
2. PAIN & GUILT-
As the shock wears off, it is replaced with the suffering of unbelievable pain. Although excruciating and almost unbearable, it is important that you experience the pain fully, Life feels chaotic and scary during this phase. Expect very little productivity during this stage as reading the Boneyard replaces normal functions such as work, talking with your spouse and bathing.
3. ANGER & BARGAINING-
Frustration gives way to anger, and you may lash out and lay blame for the lack of a decent conference on someone else. Many choose Warde Manual or Jeff Hathaway. This is a time for the release of bottled up emotion. You may rail against fate, questioning "Why UConn ?" You may also try to bargain in vain with the powers that be for a way out of your despair ("I will not complain about Syracuse’s cupcake basketball schedule anymore, if you just bring back the original Big East members.")
4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS-
Just when your friends may think you should be getting on with your life, a long period of sad reflection will likely overtake you. Encouragement from others is not helpful to you during this stage of grieving. During this time, you finally realize the true magnitude of your loss, and it depresses you. You may isolate yourself on purpose, and talk of “going independent in football” becomes the norm.
5. THE UPWARD TURN-
As you start to adjust to life without a meaningful conference affiliation, your life becomes a little calmer and more organized. Your physical symptoms lessen, and your "depression" begins to lift slightly. You actually start working at work again and your boss decides that he doesn’t need to fire you or upgrade the internet firewall.
6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH-
As you become more functional, your mind starts working again, and you will find yourself seeking realistic solutions to problems posed by life without a decent conference. You will start to work on practical and financial problems and reconstructing your program, such as stadium expansion and focusing on third tier TV rights.
7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE-
During this, the last of the seven stages of conference realignment, you learn to accept and deal with the reality of your situation. Acceptance does not necessarily mean instant happiness. Given the pain and turmoil you have experienced, you can never return to the carefree, untroubled YOU that existed before this tragedy. But you will find a way forward, unfortunately that may involve trips to Amherst, but you will survive.

 

[UConn07]

The way to "create the perception that they are above these other schools" is to play against them & continually beat them convincingly, such as the UConn women did against Duke the other night. Build up that kind of resume whereby the B1G, ACC, Big-12-16 can't possibly overlook the Huskies in the next phase of CR.

Being in the same conference with these teams gives them the platform to outperform UConn.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

It's simple to be an independent. Just cut a 20 year deal with BC. Do you mind playing all 20 in Chestnut Hill. Are you ok with 11 road games? Yeah an SEC team is traveling to East Hartford in November to play a FBS indy.....

Do you mind waiting to find out if conferences don't have enough eligible teams to find out if you can get a bowl?

This is a school that as an independent couldn't get a bid in 2003 with 9-3 record.

No kidding. The post you were responding to is nonsense. Totally naive. UConn as an independent? That a sure fired ticket back to the old Yankee Conference.

 

[UConn07]

No kidding. The post you were responding to is nonsense. Totally naive. UConn as an independent? That a sure fired ticket back to the old Yankee Conference.

And your rationale behind that is????

 

[John Greene]

And your rationale behind that is????

One does not need a rationale to reject a fantasy world built on blind hope and misunderstanding.

 

[kingdobbs]

Season ticket holder and other ties to the football program. Not a basketball guy first. I'm also looking for what's best for the entire athletic department. I don't think wasting money to travel to Texas and Oklahoma and New Orleans four times a year for baseball, softball, field hockey is a smart business plan. But call me insane.

We already travel to those places four times a year for baseball and softball. Most Northeast baseball teams play their first month in the Sun Belt.

Field hockey will never travel to Texas, because there aren't any teams that *play* field hockey in the Big XII, or even in Texas.

 

[UConn07]

One does not need a rationale to reject a fantasy world built on blind hope and misunderstanding.

I won't apologize for wanting what is best for the university. It's not blind hope, it's aspirations of making a better university and athletic experience for all future athletes that don the national flag blue and white. It's not misunderstanding that there are over 120 FBS schools that are looking for games over the next two years. We shouldn't peg ourselves down for 8 conference games against sub-par competition. We can do better. The leaders of this school should do better because the players deserve better. If we only can get 4 BCS games on a yearly basis as an independent, then fine. But that still leaves us with 8 games against subpar competition, right where we are now.

Some of the 120 schools have already locked in opponents over the next two years. Well, you know what, we've moved games before. Other schools will also move games if they are given something they want in return.

'It isn't easy to put together a football schedule' is the constant response received from the vast majority on this board. I can't help but wonder if all of you are lottery winners and have coasted through life. Life is tough. Get over it and do something about it.

 

[Adios]

As if you know what's better for the university than Susan Herbst. As stated before, the ACC without their top 5 schools would be equal to the future Big East. Keep hopelessly rambling on.