Ranking the Star Wars Movies

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Because every good movie has been a box office success, and every bad movie has bombed.
whelp you have a point.

But at the same time. If you are going to bombard the market every year with a new edition you better be serving up better than mediocrity. Because the credibility issue is a slippery slope in public perception.

These are not stand-alone good movie vs bad movie scenarios. It taints the franchise as a whole.
 

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whelp you have a point.

But at the same time. If you are going to bombard the market every year with a new edition you better be serving up better than mediocrity. Because the credibility issue is a slippery slope in public perception.

These are not stand-alone good movie vs bad movie scenarios. It taints the franchise as a whole.
I don't think the movie is that great. I just think Rocko equating quality w/ box office success is lame.

Despite your opinion, The Force Awakens and Rogue One were very generally well received by fans and critics alike. Despite my opinion, I can admit TLJ was very divisive. I think its fair to say 2 of the first 3 movies were successful.

I think there is more to the bad box office showing than simply this being a bad movie-

1) Gossip about the on set drama during production
2) Only promoting the movie for 3 months
3) backlash from TLJ
4) Summer release when December had been doing very well for Star Wars.
5) Memorial Day weekend is not great for movies- Solo had the 7th biggest Memorial Day opening weekend of all time.
6) The Avengers, Deadpool, and Incredibles all coming out in close proximity. Going to the movies is expensive.
7) People being apprehensive about a new Han Solo
8) Prequel-itis

Disney botched a lot of this, but I think it safe to say this movie was never going to do as well as the previous 3 and it has nothing to do with if the movie was good or not. Even if the movie was good I still think it would have had a disappointing run.
 

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Also Rocko is definitely one of the Red Pill guys who would rather see Lucasfilm fail then turn this around simply because he didn't like the new movies. If he can't enjoy them he would rather that they ceased to exist. They were better when the female lead was running around in a metal bikini.

I like the new movies even more knowing they make people like him so upset.

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Also Rocko is definitely one of the Red Pill guys who would rather see Lucasfilm fail then turn this around simply because he didn't like the new movies. If he can't enjoy them he would rather that they ceased to exist. They were better when the female lead was running around in a metal bikini.

I like the new movies even more knowing they make people like him so upset.

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Haven’t seen a new Star Wars movie since the prequels. Never cared much for Star Wars in the first place.
 
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It is at $264 million worldwide. It will cross $300 million like i predicted.
Disney will lose money when you factor in marketing bringing up costs to at least around 400. And the movie makes less money as more goes to the theatres the further away from opening weekend you get. A Star Wars movie will likely fail to turn a profit. Congrats on your bold prediction of 300 though lmao did you forget that this is Star Wars, a franchise with some of the largest cache in entertainment?

Where are you getting 264 from? Because from this link I’m not seeing anything close. Try 150 after its first weekend and I doubt it made another 115 its second

Box Office: ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story’ Faces Dropoff in Second Weekend

You’d think the writers were trying to get in to some lottery based on how much this movie is tanking
 
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Disney will lose money when you factor in marketing bringing up costs to at least around 400. And the movie makes less money as more goes to the theatres the further away from opening weekend you get. A Star Wars movie will likely fail to turn a profit. Congrats on your bold prediction of 300 though lmao did you forget that this is Star Wars, a franchise with some of the largest cache in entertainment?

Where are you getting 264 from? Because from this link I’m not seeing anything close. Try 150 after its first weekend and I doubt it made another 115 its second

Box Office: ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story’ Faces Dropoff in Second Weekend

You’d think the writers were trying to get in to some lottery based on how much this movie is tanking
Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018) - Box Office Mojo

You called me a liar, and lost. You should aim a little lower, sparky. I am out of your league.
 
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I had to google her too. She looks different in every single photograph taken of her. It's really odd
It's as if the film makers went out of their way to make her character look like a bag lady. I don't keep up with all the social media stuff, but it's not her fault she accepted a role that ended up being an absolutely terrible character.
 
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This is a long watch, but it is a pretty good analysis of what has happened to Star Wars.

 
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Whelp, I saw Solo, and, for me, it was the worst of the Disney offerings. Not without some charm, but definitely suffered from the variety of directors.

I also only saw The Last Jedi once (and was pretty drunk, unlike seeing Solo) so I don't feel comfortable ranking it in the list.

Empire

Star Wars
Force Awakens
Rogue One

Jedi

Sith
Solo


Clones
Phantom Menace
I'm in the same solar system as you. I'd go:

Empire

Star Wars/Force Awakens/Rogue One

ROTJ/TLJ

Sith
Solo/Clones

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Phantom Menace
 
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1) Empire Strikes Back - obviously #1. I was still a kid when this movie came out, and it blew me away. It had all the cool science fiction stuff of Star Wars, but went beyond traditional good vs. evil which was prevalent in Sci Fi and fantasy up to that point. I remember thinking that Lando was so cool but clearly a scumbag, so why was Han friends with him? The meeting with Vader in the cloud city was awesome. This stuff didn't happen often in popcorn flicks, and I loved it then and love it now. One of the best sequels in history.

2) Star Wars: A New Hope - A movie that is so original in its presentation and just well done that it hides some significant flaws, like the fact that if you carve off all the special effects and cool new worlds, it is basically a garden variety Good vs. Evil story that is not particularly creative. Lucas pulled Harrison Ford out of his butt, and while Alec Guinness ended up being ridiculously expensive (almost $100 million, many of which were 1970's dollars), he was probably worth every penny. I don't think this movie works without him. The other two leads, Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill, were OK.

3) Force Awakens - Pretty good movie that doesn't want to make any mistakes. Well casted, and good next generation, albeit with some plot holes. I thought it was funny and exciting and a good twist on the story, but not particularly original. It was a well done hand off to the next generation cast.

4) Rogue One - A whole movie about a minor plot hole is a little weird, but this was just a solid, fun movie. I liked the characters, the movie was well acted, and the plot was interesting. The only complaint I have is that it was 20 minutes too long. There wasn't enough interesting stuff for a 2+ hour movie.

5) Revenge of the Sith (III) - If it wasn't for Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman being so terrible, this would be a pretty good movie, and probably be #3 on this list. Christiansen was so bad it effectively ended his career. Portman had some earlier masterpieces, but this movie was so bad it still put her in the penalty box to some extent. Or maybe she just makes terrible movie choices. The rest of the cast was good, and the backstory of one of the greatest movie villains in history is so interesting that it is hard to screw up.

6) Attack of the Clones (II) - forgettable movie that suffered from the overuse of CGI. There is no emotional connection to a battle of CGI stormtroopers and droids. The plot was dodgy, and i still don't understand what General Grevious' deal is. Yoda and Duku were decent characters, but you put those things together with Christiansen's and Portman's terrible acting, and there is not much to work with.

7) Return of the Jedi -started well and finished well, but I can't get past the scalitoing Ewoks.

8) Phantom Menace - putting aside how slow and boring this movie is, who thought JarJar Binks was a good idea?

Didn't see:

Last Jedi - reviews are all over the place. Comes out on Netflix this month.
Solo - I am getting a little excited about this movie. I may see it in the theaters.
A writer friend of mine who I've known for many years and who shall remain nameless, and contributed a lot of creative ideas to several of the early Star Wars flicks. Told me several years ago that the real inspiration for Jar Jar Binks voice and mannerisms, in addition to Goofy, was the old time actress Edna May Oliver. If you watch her performance in the classic film "Drums Along The Mohawk" when being attacked by Indians, she IS Jar Jar.
 

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