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Players changed their minds.

A big problem with this shutdown is that only 20% of those infected are asymptomatic. Had people been responsible, this could have been easily been contained. But instead, people have "COVID parties".

I am tired of boosting egos of others but I say let them play.
 
So I’m take a guess here now that everyone’s started back up the players want to play but don’t want to go against they’re coach publicly due to it possibly affecting playing time etc. is this whole let’s sit the season out a ploy to protect jobs more than it is about safety. It seems to be working for the most part for other teams. With teams needing filler games I’m sure a schedule can get out together. I have a gut feeling there’s a bigger picture to it than Covid. Any takers
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
It really is amazing that he hasn't gotten better at this in all the years he has been a head coach.

This decision isn't easy...and I have to admit I keep changing my mind on this. I watch a game on TV and I think..."look... they're doing it". Then I read that ND cancelled their game due to issues. And I read about all the logistics of addressing an outbreak. Constant testing and quarantining....is it worth it to play a game against UMass?
Probably not.
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Just about every business has figured out a reasonably low risk, safe way to make it work. The ones that haven’t are shutting their doors for good. You just can’t function in this environment in a “no change” mindset. Time for a change for UConn Football?
 
Drew said:
The guy that left UConn in the middle of the night and told nobody is subtweeting one of the only hardcore fans of his program on Twitter because he's too spineless to stand up for his team.

Randy can pound sand.
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That’s a great response.
 
Exit 4 said:
Really, MAC too?
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Yes, we are a leader at the bottom of the pile - 3 of 130. Do people still don’t believe @Chief00 that the UConn players are no different than players at 127 other schools and want to play?
These are the same clowns, who still believe Todman abandon the team in AZ and not the Head Coach.
It’s the same MO.
 
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Chief00 said:
Yes, we are a leader at the bottom of the pile - 3 of 130. Do people still don’t believe @Chief00 that the UConn players are no different than players at 127 other schools and want to play?
These are the same clowns, who still believe Todman abandon the team in AZ and not the Head Coach.
It’s the same MO.
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UConn absolutely made the right decision not to play this fall. The pandemic is far from over and there is much more to lose than there is to gain by playing this year... for a host of reasons. You gotta be pretty myopic not to see it. Glad we have responsible adults making these decisions.
 
mikeinmanila said:
UConn absolutely made the right decision not to play this fall. The pandemic is far from over and there is much more to lose than there is to gain by playing this year... for a host of reasons. You gotta be pretty myopic not to see it. Glad we have responsible adults making these decisions.
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Being advised by same responsible adults (CT Health Dept) that has the 4th highest Covid-19 fatality rate in the country. Maybe listen to someone else with a better track record?
 
ZachFan said:
Bill,

The decommit was not going to be here until next year so cancelling this season shouldn't have an effect on him.

It was said that the players were for cancelling the season as well, so if that wasn't true, there would be grumblings from players and families.

I'd like to hear from @Nostical as he usually has the ear of the families.
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You can take it as a Confirm, the players feel they were sold a bill of goods. Nothing that they were told, proved to be true.
 
Chief00 said:
Being advised by same responsible adults (CT Health Dept) that has the 4th highest Covid-19 fatality rate in the country. Maybe listen to someone else with a better track record?
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Maybe you are spending too much time predicting MBB recruits (although appreciated) and aren't aware of how CT has been handling the pandemic (CDC recommends 5-10% positive cases and under 2% fatalities as goals for states). Here's a recent snapshot of CT:
 

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lol Kent state will play football this fall but UConn won’t. Can’t make this up
 
mikeinmanila said:
Maybe you are spending too much time predicting MBB recruits (although appreciated) and aren't aware of how CT has been handling the pandemic. Here's a recent snapshot:
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That’s the virus curve after a high death rate. All states that screwed up have that curve including NJ, NY and MA. The 3 states with the highest death rates per 100,000. CT did the 4th worse job.
 
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Chief00 said:
Being advised by same responsible adults (CT Health Dept) that has the 4th highest Covid-19 fatality rate in the country. Maybe listen to someone else with a better track record?
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Stop spewing your crazy bs. Conn. has done a great job managing the pandemic. We've had some of the lowest infection rates in the country for some time. There is no way we could have played football this season after the better part of our season was cancelled. Was the ACC afraid to play us?
 
Chief00 said:
Being advised by same responsible adults (CT Health Dept) that has the 4th highest Covid-19 fatality rate in the country. Maybe listen to someone else with a better track record?
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Maybe you should listen to a football player who possibly contracted this from playing football?

www.deseret.com

BYU’s Tristen Hoge had COVID-19, now has pneumonia and will miss games

Marty Hoge says his son tested positive two weeks ago, came off quarantine for Tuesday’s practice, but felt ill again that night and was diagnosed by BYU doctors with pneumonia.
www.deseret.com www.deseret.com

But that wasn’t Marty Hoge’s primary reason for taking to Twitter and Instagram a few days before the Cougars will host Troy on Saturday at LaVell Edwards Stadium.

“You gotta take (COVID-19) seriously,” Marty Hoge said. “The world needs to take it seriously. Believe me, it is no joke.”
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Drew said:
Also does anyone else think it's incredibly hilarious and ironic that the guy who cancelled the annual spring game is now talking about focusing on getting game reps and scrimmages in the spring?
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I mean did you see the attendance of the spring games since the end of PP's run? If a few hundred people are going to show up for a glorified practice is it really worth even holding? No. The spring games were actual pretty popular Edsall's first time around and he literally has the best recruiting class we've seen since you know Edsall's last time around. We get it you hate the guy, but he is clearly the best coach we've had at UConn since he was here the first time.
 
phillionaire said:
who exactly are we going to play? plus, not sure if you've noticed but almost 1/4 of all games this season have either been postponed or cancelled from covid.
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I agree with you on the opponents but the games getting postponed/canceled is just part of safety protocol. This is nowhere close to anything that resembles a 'real' season. You schedule a handful of games and if most get canceled for safety reasons, that's part of the deal. You are no worse off than just giving up.

When I heard about not wanting to lose eligibility, I thought that made sense. But when the NCAA gave every team a redshirt regardless, there is no reason not to at least safely try. And if 1/4 or even 3/4 or all the games are canceled, again, that is just the world we live in right now.

But back to the first point, at this late part of the season, outside of UMass, is there anyone to even schedule?
 
DoctorWho85 said:
I mean did you see the attendance of the spring games since the end of PP's run? If a few hundred people are going to show up for a glorified practice is it really worth even holding? No. The spring games were actual pretty popular Edsall's first time around and he literally has the best recruiting class we've seen since you know Edsall's last time around. We get it you hate the guy, but he is clearly the best coach we've had at UConn since he was here the first time.
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In what way does his 3-30 against FBS teams since coming back in 2017 make him "clearly the best coach we've had at UConn since he was here the first time"? The best coach period that's been here was Rhett Lashlee and Randy hated him and handcuffed him and basically forced him to leave.

Also- newsflash- EVERYONE hosts a spring game. They don't need to even do it at The Rent, hold it on campus open up the facility for a tour and cocktail hour and play it at the new soccer stadium for all I care. It's about promoting the program and providing insight and accessibility to the team for fans and media. It's also kind of important for, you know, the PLAYERS to be put into live game situations and see how they react.
 
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phillionaire said:
who exactly are we going to play? plus, not sure if you've noticed but almost 1/4 of all games this season have either been postponed or cancelled from covid.
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We could play UMass, two FCS games, and be on standby to fill in for any of the non-conference games that get cancelled. Army still has an opening and BYU has like 4. Play 4-5 games and call it a season. We are literally set to play against nobody in the spring and not have game action for two years. TWO YEARS.
 
Skiblets said:
Think of all the benefits Houston is getting this year by playing. Oh. For those not keeping track Houston just had their fourth ‘opener’ cancelled.
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In a similar SARS-2 red zone, FAU wants credit for their similar 0-for-4 scheduling success. The 0-for-8 tilt, FAU vs Houston.
 
Drew said:
We could play UMass, two FCS games, and be on standby to fill in for any of the non-conference games that get cancelled. Army still has an opening and BYU has like 4. Play 4-5 games and call it a season. We are literally set to play against nobody in the spring and not have game action for two years. TWO YEARS.
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Marbles90 said:
I agree with you on the opponents but the games getting postponed/canceled is just part of safety protocol. This is nowhere close to anything that resembles a 'real' season. You schedule a handful of games and if most get canceled for safety reasons, that's part of the deal. You are no worse off than just giving up.

When I heard about not wanting to lose eligibility, I thought that made sense. But when the NCAA gave every team a redshirt regardless, there is no reason not to at least safely try. And if 1/4 or even 3/4 or all the games are canceled, again, that is just the world we live in right now.

But back to the first point, at this late part of the season, outside of UMass, is there anyone to even schedule?
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May be able to to schedule BYU before break wait 2 weeks then UMass on Thanksgiving Saturday, then Army, then possible FCS or Sunbelt, then 2 weeks quarantine, then send the kids home for Christmas?
 
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Drew said:
In what way does his 3-30 against FBS teams since coming back in 2017 make him "clearly the best coach we've had at UConn since he was here the first time"? The best coach period that's been here was Rhett Lashlee and Randy hated him and handcuffed him and basically forced him to leave.

Also- newsflash- EVERYONE hosts a spring game. They don't need to even do it at The Rent, hold it on campus open up the facility for a tour and cocktail hour and play it at the new soccer stadium for all I care. It's about promoting the program and providing insight and accessibility to the team for fans and media. It's also kind of important for, you know, the PLAYERS to be put into live game situations and see how they react.
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So you're telling me that Diaco (who's mess Edsall is cleaning up) and Pasqualoni were better for this program than Edsall is currently? Like I said, we have the best recruiting class since edsall left. He is not the reason the program is terrible. You can put that blame completely on Hathaway and Diaco. But sure it's all Edsall's fault that we got stuck in the AAC which hurt our recruiting, two duds for coaches were hired back to back which steamrolled all our momentum in 2011 and Diaco left nothing but FCS recruits when he got fired. You're acting like Edsall slapped you around behind a woodshed for being a bad little boy. And no Rhett Lashlee wasn't the best coach that's been here. Joe Moorhead was and still is an infinitely better OC and coach. Lashlee left not because of Edsall he left because his family hated CT and our assistant pool is garbage. Do you enjoy just ignoring facts that shatter your crappy narrative about Edsall?
 
DoctorWho85 said:
So you're telling me that Diaco (who's mess Edsall is cleaning up) and Pasqualoni were better for this program than Edsall is currently? Like I said, we have the best recruiting class since edsall left. He is not the reason the program is terrible. You can put that blame completely on Hathaway and Diaco. But sure it's all Edsall's fault that we got stuck in the AAC which hurt our recruiting, two duds for coaches were hired back to back which steamrolled all our momentum in 2011 and Diaco left nothing but FCS recruits when he got fired. You're acting like Edsall slapped you around behind a woodshed for being a bad little boy. And no Rhett Lashlee wasn't the best coach that's been here. Joe Moorhead was and still is an infinitely better OC and coach. Lashlee left not because of Edsall he left because his family hated CT and our assistant pool is garbage. Do you enjoy just ignoring facts that shatter your crappy narrative about Edsall?
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I provided his record versus FBS teams in 3 years, which is a fact. You then ignored it and provided a bunch of opinions (most of which I vehemently disagree with) and didn't provide a single fact. Then claim I ignore facts and am spewing a "crappy narrative" about Randy Edsall. This is laughable.

Do you even know how bad this team is compared to Pasqualoni and Diaco? Even in the year Diaco got fired we beat Virginia and Cincinnati. I mean let that sink in for a second- we beat 2 FBS teams in the last year of the Diaco era (which was an abomination), one of which is a P5. That's more wins against FBS teams than UConn has had in the last 2 seasons they've played COMBINED. Not to mention Diaco was the coach of our only bowl team since 2011, when we defeated the winner of the Peach Bowl at home with a backup QB and were the only team that year to beat Houston. And given his background and collegiate accolades, you could easily say Diaco is a more accomplished and talented coach than HCRE2.0.

Pasqualoni- for as awful as he was- won 10 games his first two years before his atrocious third season which got him (rightfully) canned. He's also a much more accomplished collegiate coach than Randy is, compiling a 195-117 career record which is good for a 60.3% win percentage. Want to look up Randy's career coaching record and provide me with that fact?

We're currently ranked 104 in the nation per 247 for the class of 2021 recruiting. Since Randy left, recruiting rankings by year:

2012: 72
2013: 62
2014: 110
2015: 99
2016: 99
2017: 101
2018: NR
2019: NR
2020: 119

Not only is your claim that we're "having the best recruiting class since Edsall left" completely and utterly inaccurate, but we're actually also coming off the worst nationally ranked class we've ever had since Randy left. Here's your link.

Absolutely nothing in the rambling and babbling list of excuses you provided is correct (other than the drop in recruiting profile correlated with the dismantling of Big East football). Even your Joe Moorhead opinion- which I totally disagree with- you had to change the parameters of your original argument for. Please find me facts and data that back up your claim that Randy is the best coach we've had since his first go-round. Because absolutely nothing that I've seen, whether its ripping the transfer portal and then losing 20+ guys to it in one offseason, the 3-30 record against FBS teams, 1 FBS win in 2 years, actively cancelling the 2020 season despite nobody losing eligibility and the need for "development", losing career coaching record, lack of engagement with fans and media, promoting the offensive line coach to be OC with no experience, having two not rated recruiting classes in the last 3 years, or anything else shows me that he's even remotely competent to be a FBS head coach. Let alone the head coach at a school like UConn.
 
Rivals has us at 74. Ok Mr. Sunshine, who the hell do you propose we get to come here to coach with our miserable salary and assistant pool? Lashlee? He left for a school in the same conference as us at the time. And you can blame Edsall all you want for the 202 season, but who are they going to play? Army and UMass twice? BYU isn't coming out here nor we going there with CT requiring 14 days for quarantine for most of the states where independents reside. Just keeping yelling at those kids to get off your lawn old man.
 
ODU is building a new stadium. Let's not get melodramatic.
 
DoctorWho85 said:
So you're telling me that Diaco (who's mess Edsall is cleaning up) and Pasqualoni were better for this program than Edsall is currently? Like I said, we have the best recruiting class since edsall left. He is not the reason the program is terrible. You can put that blame completely on Hathaway and Diaco. But sure it's all Edsall's fault that we got stuck in the AAC which hurt our recruiting, two duds for coaches were hired back to back which steamrolled all our momentum in 2011 and Diaco left nothing but FCS recruits when he got fired. You're acting like Edsall slapped you around behind a woodshed for being a bad little boy. And no Rhett Lashlee wasn't the best coach that's been here. Joe Moorhead was and still is an infinitely better OC and coach. Lashlee left not because of Edsall he left because his family hated CT and our assistant pool is garbage. Do you enjoy just ignoring facts that shatter your crappy narrative about Edsall?
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Hindsight tells us how great Moorhead was/is. Wasn’t so great that RE took him with him.
 
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