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Ramona Shelburne weighs into Parker-Auriemma

meyers7 said:
Yea, you're pretty out to lunch here maestro. Might want to put down the baton on this one.
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They've just pulled me out of retirement to conduct two programs, so it ain't going down anytime soon.

I notice a lack of specificity in your concerns...Would you like to quantify them?
 
msf22b said:
Ms Shelbourne's jab will certainly appear gratuitous to fervent UCONN fans,
but this is no "petty grievance."

Her incendiary remarks may be off-base or flat untrue about coach, but some combination of so-called "experts" made one of the dumbest, irrational and mean-spirited calls of the century by leaving Candace off the team...period.

And she's been taking it to us (and them) and especially Minny ever since.

And to hear talk of "attitude to be a good team player, chemistry with teammates and coaches" and the like (as I predicted on a different thread)
just compounds the irrationality of the call.

UConn fans appear petty and small-minded to the rest of the country in trying to defend the indefensible.

Leave it be, don't rise to the bait...and not for the usually stated reason.

I really admire the inner fortitude of this woman for not letting it destroy her.
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Have you ever witnessed (or perhaps been part of) a workplace situation where a very talented and productive employee simply did not work well with a particular boss, and eventually that situation ended with the employee and the boss being separated (through dismissal, transfer, reorganization, the employee resigning because he/she is passed over for promotion, etc.)?

I have witnessed many of those situations and have been part of a few of them, and in my experience, the boss usually wins (and should win) in those situations. The boss has accountability for the team as a whole, and "fairness" to individual employees has to take a back seat to the smooth functioning of the whole team. It may be that the employee would work better with another boss, or it may be that the employee (despite his/her talent) simply has trouble working as a team member in any situation. Either way, if someone has to "bend" to accommodate the other personality, it is and should be the employee rather than the boss who does that.

In this case, Geno as coach and Candace as player were together for the 2012 London Olympics, and by all indications it did not end well, and left Geno with the belief that he did not want a repetition of that situation in 2016. Although he did not choose the team himself, he certainly had a strong voice (probably the strongest voice) in making recommendations to those who did, and I believe he recommended against Candace's selection simply to avoid a repetition of the London situation. By a split vote, they decided (apparently) to accede to their head coach's wishes. I don't see that anyone did anything wrong -- certainly nothing that doesn't happen at least occasionally in every workplace in America.

I suspect that Candace has respect for Geno's talents as a basketball coach, even though she never figured out (and it was "on her", not on him, to figure it out) how to work with him productively. She seems to work very well with Brian Agler, the LA Sparks' coach, and I doubt that his basketball wisdom is very different than Geno's. I notice that Candace is successfully scoring on a lot of backdoor plays against Minnesota -- something that was always a trademark of Geno's offense. I will bet that she is happy finally to have a coach (like she never had in Knoxville) who knows how to make that work, and whom she can comfortably work for.

Probably Geno also wishes that he could have found a way to use Candace productively, but apparently it never happened in London and he didn't think it would happen in 2016, so he chose to try to avoid the problem. I can't blame him, and I can't blame her.
 
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Read the comments she's being taken to task for the ridiculous and unsubstantiated cheap shot.

PS Is that any of you guys?
 
If Geno wanted her on the team, she would have been on the team. Having said that, it's not anyone's birthright to be on a team especially when they are hostile to the coach.
 
As far as I can tell, the main motivation of the article is to try to sell the WNBA finals as a great rivalry and she uses every trick of the trade (some honorable and some less so) to make the story go. There is a lot of tortured reasoning in the article but as far as I am concerned, the series speaks for itself It is clear that Candice Parker felt snubbed and that I can imagine that the UConn alumnae on the Lynx might be more amped up as a representative of Geno's Legacy.

What I found interesting is that as an NBA reporter, she did not contrast the greatness of the rivalry with the
sad state of the NBA where Golden State can just punch it's ticket for the next 3-5 years but I guess she cant upset the apple cart where her bread is buttered.
 
Scoop said:
Very well written!! Points made! Ill preface this take by stating that I like Parker, I always have (but I like Geno too). I'm a Sparks fan. I hope she has the best game of her entire professional career tonight. I'm hoping she posts a huge triple double, and leads the Sparks to a win.

That being said, I Especially like your point of players not having a "birthright" for inclusion on the team, and that there are more factors than mere "raw talent" that are factored into the selection process. As others have suggested, this is old news, and really does need to fade to black. One thing is for sure, Geno will have absolutely nothing to do with the 2020 team or the selection of players. Let's see if Parker is selected to that team by Staley or the selection committee.
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Thx Scoop..... ya, a shame because I really like Parker and her game as well..... you know..... there is nothing wrong with ego, and having big ego.... in fact I think in the hoops biz you need one or else you may be trampled.... just wish Candace didn't feel the need to take her cause public on national campaign.... It is OK if she sees it as necessary, but wish she didn't feel the need to bring out the artillery
 
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CL82 said:
Read the comments she's being taken to task for the ridiculous and unsubstantiated cheap shot.

PS Is that any of you guys?
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Probably.
 
Waquoit said:
If Geno wanted her on the team, she would have been on the team. Having said that, it's not anyone's birthright to be on a team especially when they are hostile to the coach.
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Hostile to the coach? How? When? Who?
 
CocoHusky said:
A few errors here:
1) 1984 Charles Barkley did not dominate the USA Trials. Sam Perkins, Wayman Tisdale & Joe Kline did at the forward position and were chosen for the team.
2) Jeff's last name is Turner and he played in the NBA for several years 1984-87 and 1989-96.
3) Coach K has had 2 Duke players make the team in the 3 Olympic he was head coach. Kyrie Irving (2016) and Carlos Boozer (2008 & 2012). Both were NBA All- Star in the year they made the Olympic team. In the case of Boozer he was also on the 2004 Olympic team coached by Larry Brown.
4) Bobby Knight coached the 1984 Olympic team and on that team was one of his players who was Steve Alford.
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Yes thank you for feedback.... of course sports forums are for opinions..... it always amazes me the way sports and fan opinions on sports have gotten so polarized and absolute..... I turn on ESPN Mondays and see so many stories on Tom Brady LeBron James, etc.... thank goodness Tony Romo retired.... so we will not have to put up with the similar over-focus on what he eats for breakfast.....

And on the opinion front..... how many times does ESPN put it out there..... the question of IS THIS OR THAT NFL QUARTERBACK THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME??? Is Steph Curry the GOAT on basis of great game he had or great series? Now, my quasi rhetorical question is ..... why do we see these questions asked in the public forum? Is it because we REALLY want to know whether we all consider LeBron to be better than Jordan, or at least we need to know whether if it is down to that last shot, do we want Steph taking it, or LeBron or Michael or Larry? or Magic? Do we seek the opinion on this? Or, do the sports shows seek to mobilize an absolute consensus as to what is, and who is RIGHT in this line of hypothetical questioning.....

It is interesting..... for my part, i am actually mild mannered and accepting of everyone's opinion..... what people think is their business, and it is interesting to hear and listen to the processing of their individual opinions.....

Coco Husky thank you for your words here..... I am not going to battle you here on specifics.... though from what I remember following 84 trials everyday and going back now on accounts of them, the forwards you mention didn't outplay.... no no i said i wouldn't second guess anyones opinions..... (that was a joke) ... well sort of....

And thank you for the correction on Jeff Turner.... my bad you are absolutely correct damn i hate being wrong :-) :-) Keep posting love your comments
 
JoePgh said:
Have you ever witnessed (or perhaps been part of) a workplace situation where a very talented and productive employee simply did not work well with a particular boss, and eventually that situation ended with the employee and the boss being separated (through dismissal, transfer, reorganization, the employee resigning because he/she is passed over for promotion, etc.)?

I have witnessed many of those situations and have been part of a few of them, and in my experience, the boss usually wins (and should win) in those situations. The boss has accountability for the team as a whole, and "fairness" to individual employees has to take a back seat to the smooth functioning of the whole team. It may be that the employee would work better with another boss, or it may be that the employee (despite his/her talent) simply has trouble working as a team member in any situation. Either way, if someone has to "bend" to accommodate the other personality, it is and should be the employee rather than the boss who does that.

In this case, Geno as coach and Candace as player were together for the 2012 London Olympics, and by all indications it did not end well, and left Geno with the belief that he did not want a repetition of that situation in 2016. Although he did not choose the team himself, he certainly had a strong voice (probably the strongest voice) in making recommendations to those who did, and I believe he recommended against Candace's selection simply to avoid a repetition of the London situation. By a split vote, they decided (apparently) to accede to their head coach's wishes. I don't see that anyone did anything wrong -- certainly nothing that doesn't happen at least occasionally in every workplace in America.

I suspect that Candace has respect for Geno's talents as a basketball coach, even though she never figured out (and it was "on her", not on him, to figure it out) how to work with him productively. She seems to work very well with Brian Agler, the LA Sparks' coach, and I doubt that his basketball wisdom is very different than Geno's. I notice that Candace is successfully scoring on a lot of backdoor plays against Minnesota -- something that was always a trademark of Geno's offense. I will bet that she is happy finally to have a coach (like she never had in Knoxville) who knows how to make that work, and whom she can comfortably work for.

Probably Geno also wishes that he could have found a way to use Candace productively, but apparently it never happened in London and he didn't think it would happen in 2016, so he chose to try to avoid the problem. I can't blame him, and I can't blame her.
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Great point JP... wonderful.... yeah i wish as well they could have met somewhere in the middle.... as Dr Phil says oh i hate to quote him!!! "No matter how flat a pancake is it still has two sides"
 
Obviously there is a stink of pandering when an LA-based sportswriter cries foul over Parker's absence from the Olympic team. But unless we know all the story, including what went on during the 2012 games, we can't do more than speculate.

But I will comment on the accusation by Shelburne that a reason for it was the feud between Geno and Pat. If that were the case then someone has to explain how both Parker and Catchings made it on the 2012 team and how Catchings made the 2016 team. That red herring is just a way of avoiding the obvious conclusion that this is a problem between Geno and/or the selection committee, and Parker personally. It has nothing to do with Tennessee. And since a lack of talent is off the table then the reason has to have something to do with Parker off the court. Whether it's Parker/Geno, Parker/USAB or Parker/teammates is something we have wait to find out. Players don't talk about teammates while they are teammates. Tennessee players and coaches had nothing but high praise for DeShields and Cooper when they were on the roster but as soon as they left we started to hear words like "poison" and phrases like "disruptive influence" used. In recent years I have read a couple of comments that Parker wasn't particularly liked by some of her LV teammates but while they were teammates the public image was "one big happy family". Maybe in another ten years we'll find out the truth about the 2016 Olympic team.
 
Geno did not suddenly (and would not) conspire to keep Candace off the 2016 Olympic team due to some ancient grudge because Geno successfully coached Candace in 2012.

Candace was not left off the 2016 Olympic team because she suddenly became a a "diva" and an intolerable teammate, she was always a diva, but Candace has never been reported to be a bad teammate.

Ramona Shelburne did not suddenly become a hack and incompetent sports journalist because she wrongly took a shot a Geno.

It is entirely possible to question this decision without taking shots at either Geno or Candace the way Romona has done.

 
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Geno also made his peace with Pat after she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease making a generous donation to her charity and giving her an emotional embrace at a FF.
 
Bayareahusky said:
Yes thank you for feedback.... of course sports forums are for opinions..... it always amazes me the way sports and fan opinions on sports have gotten so polarized and absolute..... I turn on ESPN Mondays and see so many stories on Tom Brady LeBron James, etc.... thank goodness Tony Romo retired.... so we will not have to put up with the similar over-focus on what he eats for breakfast.....

And on the opinion front..... how many times does ESPN put it out there..... the question of IS THIS OR THAT NFL QUARTERBACK THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME??? Is Steph Curry the GOAT on basis of great game he had or great series? Now, my quasi rhetorical question is ..... why do we see these questions asked in the public forum? Is it because we REALLY want to know whether we all consider LeBron to be better than Jordan, or at least we need to know whether if it is down to that last shot, do we want Steph taking it, or LeBron or Michael or Larry? or Magic? Do we seek the opinion on this? Or, do the sports shows seek to mobilize an absolute consensus as to what is, and who is RIGHT in this line of hypothetical questioning.....

It is interesting..... for my part, i am actually mild mannered and accepting of everyone's opinion..... what people think is their business, and it is interesting to hear and listen to the processing of their individual opinions.....

Coco Husky thank you for your words here..... I am not going to battle you here on specifics.... though from what I remember following 84 trials everyday and going back now on accounts of them, the forwards you mention didn't outplay.... no no i said i wouldn't second guess anyones opinions..... (that was a joke) ... well sort of....

And thank you for the correction on Jeff Turner.... my bad you are absolutely correct damn i hate being wrong :) :) Keep posting love your comments
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Likewise. I neglected to point out for the most part I agree with the opinions you expressed. Specifically the comment about the Olympic team not being a birth right for anyone.
BTW Charles Barkley arrived in Philadelphia in 1984 severely over weight. Luckily the Sixers had Dr. J and Moses Malone who personally whipped the Round Mound of Rebound into shape and taught him how to be a pro.
In college he got by on his talent and conditioning never mattered-until he ran into Bobby Knight. Charles himself has said he did not deserve to make that 1984 team.
 
CocoHusky said:
Likewise. I neglected to point out for the most part I agree with the opinions you expressed. Specifically the comment about the Olympic team not being a birth right for anyone.
BTW Charles Barkley arrived in Philadelphia in 1984 severely over weight. Luckily the Sixers had Dr. J and Moses Malone who personally whipped the Round Mound of Rebound into shape and taught him how to be a pro.
In college he got by on his talent and conditioning never mattered-until he ran into Bobby Knight. Charles himself has said he did not deserve to make that 1984 team.
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I remember DR J trying to take Charles under his wing and immediately have him lose 40 lbs. Charles never did but his knees never gave out as Dr J warned they would....

one good thing about Charles' weight.... his BIG booty meant an undersized NBA forward at 6'4 and 3/4 became 3 inches taller.... better able to box out
 
I'm still waiting to see which Duke players Coach K favored to get onto the Olympic teams. :oops:
 
JoePgh said:
Have you ever witnessed (or perhaps been part of) a workplace situation where a very talented and productive employee simply did not work well with a particular boss, and eventually that situation ended with the employee and the boss being separated (through dismissal, transfer, reorganization, the employee resigning because he/she is passed over for promotion, etc.)?

I have witnessed many of those situations and have been part of a few of them, and in my experience, the boss usually wins (and should win) in those situations. The boss has accountability for the team as a whole, and "fairness" to individual employees has to take a back seat to the smooth functioning of the whole team. It may be that the employee would work better with another boss, or it may be that the employee (despite his/her talent) simply has trouble working as a team member in any situation. Either way, if someone has to "bend" to accommodate the other personality, it is and should be the employee rather than the boss who does that.

In this case, Geno as coach and Candace as player were together for the 2012 London Olympics, and by all indications it did not end well, and left Geno with the belief that he did not want a repetition of that situation in 2016. Although he did not choose the team himself, he certainly had a strong voice (probably the strongest voice) in making recommendations to those who did, and I believe he recommended against Candace's selection simply to avoid a repetition of the London situation. By a split vote, they decided (apparently) to accede to their head coach's wishes. I don't see that anyone did anything wrong -- certainly nothing that doesn't happen at least occasionally in every workplace in America.

I suspect that Candace has respect for Geno's talents as a basketball coach, even though she never figured out (and it was "on her", not on him, to figure it out) how to work with him productively. She seems to work very well with Brian Agler, the LA Sparks' coach, and I doubt that his basketball wisdom is very different than Geno's. I notice that Candace is successfully scoring on a lot of backdoor plays against Minnesota -- something that was always a trademark of Geno's offense. I will bet that she is happy finally to have a coach (like she never had in Knoxville) who knows how to make that work, and whom she can comfortably work for.

Probably Geno also wishes that he could have found a way to use Candace productively, but apparently it never happened in London and he didn't think it would happen in 2016, so he chose to try to avoid the problem. I can't blame him, and I can't blame her.
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The scuttlebutt at the time was that Candace's (former/potential) teammates were the ones to express a concern as to whether Candace was a good fit for the team not Geno though I am sure he had input.

The Olympic team had great chemistry. That matters.

Tamika Catchings was on the team. She and Geno have a good working relationship. That kind of lays waste to the whole, it's UConn/Tennessee bad blood.

I chalk the reference up to bad reporting and nothing more.
 
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CL82 said:
The scuttlebutt at the time was that Candace's (former/potential) teammates were the ones to express a concern as to whether Candace was a good fit for the team not Geno though I am sure he had input.

The Olympic team had great chemistry. That matters.

Tamika Catchings was on the team. She and Geno have a good working relationship. That kind of lays waste to the whole, it's UConn/Tennessee bad blood.

I chalk the reference up to bad reporting and nothing more.
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Very well said! Numerous potential reasons as to why she was left off the team. So many self inflicted wounds...!
 
JoePgh said:
Have you ever witnessed (or perhaps been part of) a workplace situation where a very talented and productive employee simply did not work well with a particular boss, and eventually that situation ended with the employee and the boss being separated (through dismissal, transfer, reorganization, the employee resigning because he/she is passed over for promotion, etc.)?

I have witnessed many of those situations and have been part of a few of them, and in my experience, the boss usually wins (and should win) in those situations. The boss has accountability for the team as a whole, and "fairness" to individual employees has to take a back seat to the smooth functioning of the whole team. It may be that the employee would work better with another boss, or it may be that the employee (despite his/her talent) simply has trouble working as a team member in any situation. Either way, if someone has to "bend" to accommodate the other personality, it is and should be the employee rather than the boss who does that.

In this case, Geno as coach and Candace as player were together for the 2012 London Olympics, and by all indications it did not end well, and left Geno with the belief that he did not want a repetition of that situation in 2016. Although he did not choose the team himself, he certainly had a strong voice (probably the strongest voice) in making recommendations to those who did, and I believe he recommended against Candace's selection simply to avoid a repetition of the London situation. By a split vote, they decided (apparently) to accede to their head coach's wishes. I don't see that anyone did anything wrong -- certainly nothing that doesn't happen at least occasionally in every workplace in America.

I suspect that Candace has respect for Geno's talents as a basketball coach, even though she never figured out (and it was "on her", not on him, to figure it out) how to work with him productively. She seems to work very well with Brian Agler, the LA Sparks' coach, and I doubt that his basketball wisdom is very different than Geno's. I notice that Candace is successfully scoring on a lot of backdoor plays against Minnesota -- something that was always a trademark of Geno's offense. I will bet that she is happy finally to have a coach (like she never had in Knoxville) who knows how to make that work, and whom she can comfortably work for.

Probably Geno also wishes that he could have found a way to use Candace productively, but apparently it never happened in London and he didn't think it would happen in 2016, so he chose to try to avoid the problem. I can't blame him, and I can't blame her.
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Joe

You may be close to the nub of the issue....
From 1974-95, I developed an orchestra in NY that became one of the greatest perhaps the greatest small orchestra in the world, St Luke's.

During that time talent and artistry was paramount; we started with a bunch of druggie's/ hippies and as our engagements became more prominent and middle-class, a few dropped out...weren't pushed. The rest grew up...I remember one wonderful artist telling me Luke's is doomed to success as he slammed the door.

As I said, artistry and talent were paramount, we would do everything and anything to retain the extraordinary ability of our great artists. And don't lecture me about teamwork. teamwork in an orchestra is every bit as subtle as in Geno's most intricate system.

One example in particular comes to mind an individual who was retained despite the most outrageous behind the scenes and off the job behavior. Somehow we helped this artist to survive...THE NY Times once called him the "Poet" of his instrument. On the stage of Carnegie or Caramoor, you couldn't takes your eyes off him. Off stage he was a horror. He only lost his membership in his late-40's (on a vote of his peers)when his dissolute lifestyle caught up with him...And he just couldn't play anymore. Yes, until then we enabled him.

You asked me whether whether I had been in a situation where " a very talented and productive employee simply did not work well with a particular boss." And the answer is in the Arts and probably in BB is absolutely, yes and it's the job of management to sort things and make them work.

As Deems Taylor wrote in his essay "The Monster" 70 or 80 years ago...Wagner was a cheater, an anti-semite, a wife stealer, an unreliable friend and collegaue and it doesn't matter one whit.

Perhaps, my experiences color my view of this situ.

Written as I enjoy a splendid glass of 2015 Colle Picchioni Perlaia, as good a 10 buck Italian red as you can get
 
It appears that "the poet" was a transcendent talent. But if you had 3 or 4 other equally transcendent talents who played the same instrument (with better attitudes) looking to join your orchestra would you have put up with him?
 
triaddukefan said:
I'm still waiting to see which Duke players Coach K favored to get onto the Olympic teams. :oops:
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trial duke PLEASE give me a break... i am not looking back at my post now... and I think my statement was broad..... i do not think i specified olympics tho i could be wrong.... i was going by memory which is why i made mistake not giving Jeff Turner credit for having an NBA resume....

i do not want to go back and analyze Coach K resume and parse all selections..... i just remember he and knight were good at picking their own players.....

Opinions are just that OPINIONS do not pretend to have a corner on fact..... i have been wrong plenty of times.....
 
Alydar said:
It appears that "the poet" was a transcendent talent. But if you had 3 or 4 other equally transcendent talents who played the same instrument (with better attitudes) looking to join your orchestra would you have put up with him?
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Folks like him (and Parker) rarely show up when the next bus comes rolling in
Closer to once in a lifetime.
 
The claim about Geno snubbing Candace is factually incorrect. This is old news that was hashed out in great detail on the board a year ago. Part of the issue was the Candace was unable or unwilling to defend Cambage in the semi-final game in London in 2012. The goal in 2016, as always, was to pick the best team of 12 players, not the best 12 individual players. At the time of the team selection, Candace's WNBA team had never been to the finals. She played a position at which we were loaded and was likely the 13th player on a 12-player team. Based on playing time, Catch was likely the 12th player. How would the LV faithful have reacted if Catch had not made the team?
 
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Bayareahusky said:
trial duke PLEASE give me a break... i am not looking back at my post now... and I think my statement was broad..... i do not think i specified olympics tho i could be wrong.... i was going by memory which is why i made mistake not giving Jeff Turner credit for having an NBA resume....

i do not want to go back and analyze Coach K resume and parse all selections..... i just remember he and knight were good at picking their own players.....

Opinions are just that OPINIONS do not pretend to have a corner on fact..... i have been wrong plenty of times.....
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I think Triad's follow-up questions had to do with the fact that's your post, which you say I say an opinion, read as factual. Hence, she was asking for the support behind the statement.
 
msf22b said:
Joe

You may be close to the nub of the issue....
From 1974-95, I developed an orchestra in NY that became one of the greatest perhaps the greatest small orchestra in the world, St Luke's.

During that time talent and artistry was paramount; we started with a bunch of druggie's/ hippies and as our engagements became more prominent and middle-class, a few dropped out...weren't pushed. The rest grew up...I remember one wonderful artist telling me Luke's is doomed to success as he slammed the door.

As I said, artistry and talent were paramount, we would do everything and anything to retain the extraordinary ability of our great artists. And don't lecture me about teamwork. teamwork in an orchestra is every bit as subtle as in Geno's most intricate system.

One example in particular comes to mind an individual who was retained despite the most outrageous behind the scenes and off the job behavior. Somehow we helped this artist to survive...THE NY Times once called him the "Poet" of his instrument. On the stage of Carnegie or Caramoor, you couldn't takes your eyes off him. Off stage he was a horror. He only lost his membership in his late-40's (on a vote of his peers)when his dissolute lifestyle caught up with him...And he just couldn't play anymore. Yes, until then we enabled him.

You asked me whether whether I had been in a situation where " a very talented and productive employee simply did not work well with a particular boss." And the answer is in the Arts and probably in BB is absolutely, yes and it's the job of management to sort things and make them work.

As Deems Taylor wrote in his essay "The Monster" 70 or 80 years ago...Wagner was a cheater, an anti-semite, a wife stealer, an unreliable friend and collegaue and it doesn't matter one whit.

Perhaps, my experiences color my view of this situ.

Written as I enjoy a splendid glass of 2015 Colle Picchioni Perlaia, as good a 10 buck Italian red as you can get
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I have numerous reactions to this viewpoint, but I certainly appreciate your spelling it out in such detail.

First of all, I agree with the later poster that Candace's basketball skill is not clearly so far above the level of other contenders for the Olympic slot that it is sensible to accommodate her for the sake of making use of her talent. It sounds as if your Poet was way above his peers in musical talent, which perhaps is a different situation.

Second, it isn't necessary to believe that Candace is a bad or "dissolute" person to reach the conclusion that Geno and/or the Selection Committee made the right decision. I don't think that the decision had anything to do with Candace's off-court behavior, which to my knowledge and observation is perfectly satisfactory. I think the decision was based on her on-court behavior, as demonstrated primarily in London.

Third, you say that there is as much teamwork required in an orchestra as on Geno's basketball teams. I have no basis for disagreeing with you about that. But what if your Poet (or anyone else, including those with perhaps an exemplary personal life away from the job) refused to play as a team member or to take direction from the conductor? Would you still have retained him in that case?

Finally, you say that it is the job of management to sort things out and make them work, implying that the manager has to be the one to "bend", or even that a sufficiently talented employee should be permitted to do things his or her way without regard to the team. I don't think any team enterprise can work that way, as Holly Warlick is demonstrating at Tennessee in the way that she tried to manage Diamond Deshields. The results of that effort do not commend themselves as a recipe for success.
 
So much talk about Candace "Candy" Parker. She has talent and no one can take that away from her.. but I am so glad she did not play for UCONN. Her attitude sucks. She cries to the refs, she "never" fouls... she is "always" fouled. Prima Donna... And lets be honest.. she was not on the team because she is not a team player....
 
CamrnCrz1974 said:
I think Triad's follow-up questions had to do with the fact that's your post, which you say I say an opinion, read as factual. Hence, she was asking for the support behind the statement.
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Understand..... It is good... I withdraw my statement if it was interpreted as fact
 
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