Providence offer

[businesslawyer]

I don't get this, were in a precarious position because our fans thump their chest's on our message board? I get that we are in a bind, but that's because we were late to the football party not because we have some perceived superiority complex.

Our fans thinking we're in a better position than we are limit the options the AD has to make things better. The Notre Dame football series, e.g. (And no -- I don't know for a fact that our fan's anger about the series doomed it, but we don't know that it didn't either.)

 

[noeynox]

I think you're giving this particular message board too much credit.

I think more blame should be laid at the feet of past administrations, and yet even more on just bad circumstances coming together at the worst possible times, like this APR, fiasco right in the middle of conference shuffle season.

 

[Husky68]

Our fans thinking we're in a better position than we are limit the options the AD has to make things better. The Notre Dame football series, e.g. (And no -- I don't know for a fact that our fan's anger about the series doomed it, but we don't know that it didn't either.)

"I don't know for a fact that our fan's anger about the series doomed it, but we don't know that it didn't either." Something like I don't know for a fact that fhcRE's coaching doomed Uconn from being a more successful team, but I don't know that it didn't either.

 

[tzznandrew]

It's impossible to please any fanbase.

But ours has become entitled--not unjustly, really. Three titles ties us with Kansas, and puts us ahead of pretty much every other school in the country. But unlike a lot of other fanbases which had large droughts between titles (Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, UNC) or experienced multiple failures at the highest levels (Duke), we went from being regional to being national all of a sudden. And once we broke through--we did it in a big way. From 1999-2011 we won 3 titles, went to 4 final fours, 6 E8s, and a bunch of titles. If we stretched it back to 1995, it's even crazier (although UK would match us in titles).

But, we haven't experienced a ton of hardship, and I don't think that some people realize how precarious this new environment is. We need to be damn good and justify getting picked now. I don't think we fade into mediocrity, but if it were going to happen, it would happen after one of the 5 best coaches of all time leaves your program, and your program is suddenly in a conference where the 3 other best schools were mid-majors in recent memory (if not last year). The chest-thumping is going to go away really quickly if we don't keep winning...and unless we're going to regional finals, final fours, and winning titles, it really doesn't matter...

 

[whaler11]

Some on this board have such an irrational hatred for Providence that they can't be remotely objective when discussing them in any context.

I don't know what else is on the table so I don't know if they should do it or not - but it's a good rivalry and should continue if it can.

 

[Husky68]

Some on this board have such an irrational hatred for Providence that they can't be remotely objective when discussing them in any context.

I don't know what else is on the table so I don't know if they should do it or not - but it's a good rivalry and should continue if it can.

All hatred is not irrational.

 

[whaler11]

All hatred is not irrational.

True, but you hate Providence probably because of five posters on the internet. I see a school that never has any success and still has a relatively decent fanbase. The Providence grads I work with still follow the team religiously after decades.

 

[tzznandrew]

True, but you hate Providence probably because of five posters on the internet. I see a school that never has any success and still has a relatively decent fanbase. The Providence grads I work with still follow the team religiously after decades.

I've found that if I can eliminate the obnoxious internet people (who are necessarily worse due to anonymity), I hate fewer teams. I've even worked with a really cool UK fan. That said, I hate UK because of Calipari...but there probably is no other real hate anymore.

 

[Devland]

True, but you hate Providence probably because of five posters on the internet. I see a school that never has any success and still has a relatively decent fanbase. The Providence grads I work with still follow the team religiously after decades.

Wait, there are Providence grads with jobs?

 

[Husky68]

True, but you hate Providence probably because of five posters on the internet. I see a school that never has any success and still has a relatively decent fanbase. The Providence grads I work with still follow the team religiously after decades.

I didn't say I hated PeeCee, only that all hate is no irrational (especially for BCU) . I was a big fan of Conn boys like Johnny Egan there in the early 60's and the ol' Ernie D. and BNB team. I'd rather play PeeCee than a lot of other "lower level" teams but not home and home over a lot top 50-75 teams.

 

[Robertelamin]

Come on now. Our 'rivals' are now Cincy and USF. If Cuse, Pitt, Georgetown, St Johns, Nova or PC want a home and home, lets get it done. People are going to view SMU, UCF, ect the same as Maryland Eastern Shore, Winthrop and Bryant. We really need to have some games that fans care about. Just my 2 cents...

 

[SubbaBub]

Some on this board have such an irrational hatred for Providence that they can't be remotely objective when discussing them in any context.

I don't know what else is on the table so I don't know if they should do it or not - but it's a good rivalry and should continue if it can.

It's indifference. If not for their constant yapping, we wouldn't be discussing them at all.

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[FfldCntyFan]

Some on this board have such an irrational hatred for Providence that they can't be remotely objective when discussing them in any context.

I don't know what else is on the table so I don't know if they should do it or not - but it's a good rivalry and should continue if it can.

Please explain how not believing PC warrants equal home and home games is hatred. Do we have hatred towards Fairfield? Hartford? URI? Seton Hall?

Next question, please explain how PC is more of a rivalry than Seton Hall. It would help id you could document the history we had with each school before the Big East began and then show how PC somehow became more of a rival than SHU during the BE years.

 

[whaler11]

Please explain how not believing PC warrants equal home and home games is hatred. Do we have hatred towards Fairfield? Hartford? URI? Seton Hall?

Next question, please explain how PC is more of a rivalry than Seton Hall. It would help id you could document the history we had with each school before the Big East began and then show how PC somehow became more of a rival than SHU during the BE years.

The two things are mutually exclusive. You can be against the games and not be one of the irrational fans constantly railing against Providence.

The board is constantly filled with Providence hatred. Are you denying that? Do I have to bump 15 threads?

Why would it matter who was a rival 30 years ago when measuring who is a rival now? How is Providence more of a rival than Seton Hall? I'll just pretend you are kidding with that question since everything Providence does is captured here for our reading enjoyment and Seton Hall is mentioned as much as DePaul.

Maybe you saw the atmosphere at Gampel for PC to end the season. That alone proves that Providence is a good rival - but I'm sure a dozen people will claim the atmosphere was because of 10 other ridiculous reasons.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I believe that you are placing far too much weight in how a handful of people who post on this board feel. The truth is that PC is little different today than URI & UMass were some 35 years ago (save less of a recent success gap) and if there had been an internet during the late schabel and Dee Rowe years, the idea of agreeing to URI or UNH something similar to what Cooley has asked for would be viewed similarly (at least at that time UMass had already left the Yankee fotr what appeared to be a better conference) to how we are now viewing n extended home and home with PC.

Knock me all you care to but I personally see little (primarily proximity) that separates PC from Seton Hall and in all candor I do not see how offering either anything close to an equal series makes any sense on our end.

 

[whaler11]

I believe that you are placing far too much weight in how a handful of people who post on this board feel. The truth is that PC is little different today than URI & UMass were some 35 years ago (save less of a recent success gap) and if there had been an internet during the late schabel and Dee Rowe years, the idea of agreeing to URI or UNH something similar to what Cooley has asked for would be viewed similarly (at least at that time UMass had already left the Yankee fotr what appeared to be a better conference) to how we are now viewing n extended home and home with PC.

Knock me all you care to but I personally see little (primarily proximity) that separates PC from Seton Hall and in all candor I do not see how offering either anything close to an equal series makes any sense on our end.

You managed to not explain the atmosphere at Gampel.

If you don't think they are worthy of a game that's fine - sort of ignores they have been for decades but that's fine. Like I said you can't judge the offer in a vacuum - you need to know what else is available. I'm not old enough to know exactly what UMass and Rhode Island were like 35 years ago. I know that earlier this month the building was sold out and fired up for Providence.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Maybe you saw the atmosphere at Gampel for PC to end the season. That alone proves that Providence is a good rival - but I'm sure a dozen people will claim the atmosphere was because of 10 other ridiculous reasons.

Unless you're being willfully obtuse - a distinct possibility - I'd say the atomosphere at Gampel had more to do with it being the last time these kids would play a game this season, and less to do with the opponent.

 

[upstater]

Come on now. Our 'rivals' are now Cincy and USF. If Cuse, Pitt, Georgetown, St Johns, Nova or PC want a home and home, lets get it done. People are going to view SMU, UCF, ect the same as Maryland Eastern Shore, Winthrop and Bryant. We really need to have some games that fans care about. Just my 2 cents...

Do you realize how costly a home and home OOC game is? You're comparing conference games to non-conference games. The fact we're in a conference falls under "no shit sherlock." That we can't control. Our OOC is what we can control. UConn has to schedule 4 home and homes each year to fulfill the demands of the CBS contract, at a minimum. Then it has to play one offs like the Maryland/Gonzaga/Michigan State games, and holiday tourneys like Maui, Paradise, Virgin Isle, NITs, etc. 18 conference games, 4 home and homes, 4 tourney and one offs, that's 26. The AD will start feeling the hurt if it can't schedule Stony Brook.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I won't destroy this debate with schools such as Cuse, Louisville, Georgetown, Nova, ND or Pitt but both Cincinnati and St John's had in conference seasons quite similar to what PC did this past year. Are you sure that a season ending game (with no post season, and a chance to hit 20 wins) against either of them would have had any less atmosphere than the PC game had? I could well be wrong but I have a strong belief that you are giving PC credit for a few circumstances that had little to nothing to do with them.

I personally believe that we could have ended the season against anyone from DePaul, Rutgers or Seton Hall to Cuse, Louisville or Georgetown and still sold the place out.

 

[whaler11]

Unless you're being willfully obtuse - a distinct possibility - I'd say the atomosphere at Gampel had more to do with it being the last time these kids would play a game this season, and less to do with the opponent.

Yep figured I'd hear that one.

Well I'm glad people finally decided to support them in the last game of the season. Too bad they stayed home in droves prior to then they missed some good games.

I'm curious why was the last game so much more important to people than the dozens prior?

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I'm curious why was the last game so much more important to people than the dozens prior?

Okay, now I'm sure you're being a clown on purpose. This **** must be exhausting for you.

 

[FriarJ]

Anyone, anywhere, anytime... Sound familiar? From just up the road? Same answers as years ago though; the UConn fans don't want it. Although some of you want UMass in your new conference so who knows, things have a way of coming back around.

This thread has given me a great many laughs though, thanks!

 

[Kitaman]

I'll take peecee over Vermont every day.

No need for us after winning a few 'chips' to get stuck up and too good to play peecee.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Yep figured I'd hear that one.

Well I'm glad people finally decided to support them in the last game of the season. Too bad they stayed home in droves prior to then they missed some good games.

I'm curious why was the last game so much more important to people than the dozens prior?

They are being irrational. PC was then and is now the Big East team closest to Storrs. It matters. We travel to the Dunk very well, which is why they want to play it. We draw better for them than anyone else. But I think it is a local New England rivalry and I'd like to keep it going. Great for UConn alumna like me who can easily get to Providence for a game.

 

[Huskybass]

I say we continue to play them. We beat them twice this season with a depleted roster and a first year head coach. With a full team and an experienced KO, we could give them the annual whoopin' they so richly deserve.

 

[seanmc94]

Please explain how not believing PC warrants equal home and home games is hatred. Do we have hatred towards Fairfield? Hartford? URI? Seton Hall?

Next question, please explain how PC is more of a rivalry than Seton Hall. It would help id you could document the history we had with each school before the Big East began and then show how PC somehow became more of a rival than SHU during the BE years.

Eric Murdock showing Tate George's gal a good time?
Uconns team cryng that pc wouldn't stop dunking on them a few years back?
Calhoun moving the game back to gampel after a few beat downs at the XL
How about holding our own on the court over the past decade
How about Ryan Gomes, kris Dunn and Brandon Austin?

 

[Waquoit]

You managed to not explain the atmosphere at Gampel.

The "atmosphere" at Gampel wasn't nearly as alive for PC as it was for the previous 2 games played there.

 

[Waquoit]

Providence Basketball - We Hold Our Own

 

[uconnfan68]

Eric Murdock showing Tate George's gal a good time?
Uconns team cryng that pc wouldn't stop dunking on them a few years back?
Calhoun moving the game back to gampel after a few beat downs at the XL
How about holding our own on the court over the past decade
How about Ryan Gomes, kris Dunn and Brandon Austin?

Excuse me? What accomplishments do you have over the last 10 years? We have 2 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS in that time. Do you really think you're equal to us, because I don't recall you ever winning one? The NIT from the '60s doesn't count, just like we won't count our NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP from the '90s.

 

[Huskybass]

Eric Murdock showing Tate George's gal a good time?
Uconns team cryng that pc wouldn't stop dunking on them a few years back?
Calhoun moving the game back to gampel after a few beat downs at the XL
How about holding our own on the court over the past decade
How about Ryan Gomes, kris Dunn and Brandon Austin?

PC hasn't even made the NCAA tournament since 2004. In that same span UConn has 2 national championships plus another final 4 appearance. Do you really believe the crap you post here?Like PC, you are nothing more than an annoyance.