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In the 1964 World Series Gibson pitched in the 2nd game, the 5th game and the7th game. The manager was not suspended
 
You don't do cruises, do you?

4-day, 3 night cruise. Leave Friday afternoon, back to where you start Monday morning.

LOL. I fully agree that your terminology is how cruises are described. Were we talking about cruises?
 
All the hyperbole aside, I do think it’s an important discussion and guidelines are important/needed (especially at lower levels where the access to sports medicine staff and trainers/rehab aren’t readily accessible).

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I saw this chart dismissed earlier but I think it’s important to look @ for someone who is almost 23 years old and did not appear to be overused during the regular season (@HuskyNan chart earlier). His last start was 8 days previous, he was under the maximum pitch count in this start (109 pitches) and did not pitch on consecutive days so I’m not sure he was egregiously outside the pitch count/rest-pitch guidelines intent/limitations for his Monday appearance (50 pitches).
 
All the hyperbole aside, I do think it’s an important discussion and guidelines are important/needed (especially at lower levels where the access to sports medicine staff and trainers/rehab aren’t readily accessible).

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I saw this chart dismissed earlier but I think it’s important to look @ for someone who is almost 23 years old and did not appear to be overused during the regular season (@HuskyNan chart earlier). His last start was 8 days previous, he was under the maximum pitch count in this start (109 pitches) and did not pitch on consecutive days so I’m not sure he was egregiously outside the pitch count/rest-pitch guidelines intent/limitations for his Monday appearance (50 pitches).
If we want to talk about only being slightly out of these guidelines and ignore pitch smarts, what about the eye test? He was gassed after 30 pitches. He was running on fumes. That's where you get hurt. No one was even warming up

I'm also tired of people using the excuse that it was his throw day. Throw days are like 30-35 pitches. So not only did he throw 50 pitches, he also had a bullpen and then warmups. So he threw at least double as many pitches as he would have during a throw day, in a live, high pressure scenario. Throw days and an elimination game under the lights clinging to a lead aren't remotely the same thing. It's not uncommon for mlb pitchers to get hurt on normal rest after throwing a no-hitter/complete game with only 100-110 pitches. The pressure and adrenaline masks any pain, soreness or tiredness and it's very easy to overdo it.
 
In the 1964 World Series Gibson pitched in the 2nd game, the 5th game and the7th game. The manager was not suspended
Of course he was a professional who was paid for his services and an adult who could make his own decisions. Not sure how it was back then but now players are insured. Not sure it’s a good comparison
 
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This thread had its merits if done under the proper spirit. To title it Penders Needs to be Suspended because your thoughts didn't fit under the game thread of a Regional final looks venomous and mean spirited especially within the framework of an ongoing game.

No matter what information is provided, JMick and Navery are not going to agree, and that surely is their right. The post title looks ugly to anyone new to UConn baseball and don't know if we can shut this down, delete the thread of even change the title. I am not sure what other value this thread brings at this point.
 
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