Patriots release Hernandez

[UCFBfan]

Remember AH didn't line up like a normal TE. Ballard can't play the role AH did. However, someone like Edelman or another receiver could fill that role. Might not have height but Ballard won't fill AH role.

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[Husky25]

Might have said it with less edge . . . but yeah. . . . when will these guys learn. Leave the homies in the rear view mirror, leave the 'hood for the occasional visit home to see a relative. This gang BS, and homeboy crap is ridiculous (at least when the homeboys are thugs and criminals who have nothing to offer anyone in society). May sound cold but you have to protect what you've worked for and remember that you have to be loyal to your family and teammates.

Probably should have gone to UConn and been with DJ and Randy. Certainly he would have had better role models during those formative years.

Maybe its time to readdress the Rookie Symposium and institute some additional guidance sessions other than for two days at the Hall of Fame Game (or whenever it is). These are 21-23 year old kids with $millions. I entered the workforce out of college, making mid $30ks with an assigned mentor by my then-employer. I don't see how this would hurt athletes making multiple 100x that amount.

To me however is that the kid made a mistake. Let him go through the legal system, pay his debt to society (if any), suffer the consequences of the NFL (if any further), and I'm not opposed to giving him another chance, so long he earns it and is good enough. Its the 3rd 4th and 5th chances I have a problem with.

 

[intlzncster]

I read in a WEEI report that they can't go after it now that he's released. They went through this with Fanene last year. Had to hold his rights while they went after the bonus. This would be like the Raiders releasing, say, Jamarcus Russell, then coming after his signing bonus AFTER he was convicted post release.

Update from ESPNBoston. There's still a lot of uncertainty regarding cap charge and bonus.

Obviously secondary to the news of Aaron Hernandez's arrest and his subsequent release from the Patriots, some have wondered what it means for the team, salary-cap wise.

Here is what we know:

Last summer, the Patriots gave him a five-year contract worth $40 million. The deal included a $12.5 million signing bonus. At this point, when looking solely at signing bonus and base salaries, Hernandez has earned $9.79 million of the extension.

His new salary-cap charge in 2013 is just over $5 million, an increase of about $1 million, league sources told ESPN. For 2014, that charge will be $7.5 million, which is the remaining pro-ration of his signing bonus.

It’s unclear what kind of communication, if any, the Patriots had with the NFL regarding Hernandez’s contract over the past nine days. By releasing Hernandez on Wednesday, the Patriots appear to have waived all rights to recoup any bonus money or salary through the CBA.

One other factor to consider: A club can recover bonus money and avoid a cap hit if a player violates one of the league's personal conduct policies or defaults on contract language. It’s possible the Patriots have talked to the NFL about this possibility, but that’s unknown at this point.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-...4744788/cap-implications-of-cutting-hernandez

 

[formerlurker]

Maybe its time to readdress the Rookie Symposium and institute some additional guidance sessions other than for two days at the Hall of Fame Game (or whenever it is). These are 21-23 year old kids with $millions. I entered the workforce out of college, making mid $30ks with an assigned mentor by my then-employer. I don't see how this would hurt athletes making multiple 100x that amount.

To me however is that the kid made a mistake. Let him go through the legal system, pay his debt to society (if any), suffer the consequences of the NFL (if any further), and I'm not opposed to giving him another chance, so long he earns it and is good enough. Its the 3rd 4th and 5th chances I have a problem with.

You mean having Pac Man Jones talk to NFL rookies isn't enough?

 

[hthusky74]

Don't let Addazio off the hook.

After AH committed to UConn. Addazio fake recruited another Bristol kid, he then got AH to "accompany" the fake recruit (a player Addazio/Florida had no interest in signing). Wosre Addazio did this without letting AH mother know he was on his way to Florida. So behing his mother's back Addazio and AH went to Gainesville. Lord only knows what recruiting ploys were used on that trip.But Addazio bagged his trophy.

So what did AH learn from Addazio.

1 sneak around to get your way,
2 to avoid your love ones,
3 to break your word,
4 commitment means nothing.
Great mentor of young man, Mr. Addazio.

This is untrue. AH was under 18 at the time and could not travel to FL without his mother's sign-off.

 

[formerlurker]

If you're interested, TMZ will be streaming the arraignment live in a few minutes.

 

[hthusky74]

Remember the heat I took a week or so ago for saying that AH was a man with no integrity for violating his oral committment to UConn. I said a man's word was his bond. Anyone want to give me any crap about that analysis now?

 

[intlzncster]

. May sound cold but you have to protect what you've worked for and remember that you have to be loyal to your family and teammates.
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Thing is, I think both of these guys were family to some degree...

 

[huskymedic]

MassStatePolice 1:57pm via Web
What is expected: Hernandez will be brought before the court. Official charge(s) will be read. A bail argument will be heard. Next date set.

 

[Husky25]

You mean having Pac Man Jones talk to NFL rookies isn't enough?

I saw the Herm Edwards speech again this weekend. It has never rung truer.

1) Nothing good happens after Midnight. If you are aren't already home, time to start making your way. If the girl you winked at an hour ago isn't talking to you? She probably won't start now. Try again after the win next week.

2) Just one (I.e. okay, you have $1,000,000. You need a house? Yes, you do. But just one. You need a car? Yup, but just one. you need a need and 18 inch gold rope chain? No, but if you want one, buy...just...one...).

 

[intlzncster]

Remember the heat I took a week or so ago for saying that AH was a man with no integrity for violating his oral committment to UConn. I said a man's word was his bond. Anyone want to give me any crap about that analysis now?

Yah, I just don't think that has anything to do with murder and obstruction of justice charges. Plenty of athletes back out of commitments and you don't see them get involved in this kind of . It's unrelated at best, and coincidental at worst.

 

[formerlurker]

Remember the heat I took a week or so ago for saying that AH was a man with no integrity for violating his oral committment to UConn. I said a man's word was his bond. Anyone want to give me any crap about that analysis now?

Your last post says he was under 18 at the time which means he was a kid when he made his decision. Give it a rest. He's a man now and he obviously has integrity issues but I can't hammer him for going to Florida over UConn. He fulfilled every dream he probably had as a little boy by going to UF. Unfortunately, it appears he's thrown it all away.

 

[formerlurker]

TMZ reporting he'll be arraigned on 6 criminal charges.

 

[freescooter]

So you agree with me then? Because that is exactly what I said.

Yes. I intended to reply to the same post you replied to. Hit "reply" to yours when I read it there befroe I had read your response. We agree though.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Remember the heat I took a week or so ago for saying that AH was a man with no integrity for violating his oral committment to UConn. I said a man's word was his bond. Anyone want to give me any crap about that analysis now?

Yes, because it's still ridiculous to conflate decomitting from a college as a 16-year old with whatever the hell is going on with him right now.

 

[Palatine]

This is untrue. AH was under 18 at the time and could not travel to FL without his mother's sign-off.

It was widely reported at the time.

 

[formerlurker]

AH Charged with murder!

 

[hthusky74]

You can tell a lot about someone by whether they keep their word or not, whether they are 17 or 71. I'll rest my case on Aaron Hernandez. So will the Massachusetts Superior Court in a year or two.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

You can tell a lot about someone by whether they keep their word or not, whether they are 17 or 71. I'll rest my case on Aaron Hernandez. So will the Massachusetts Superior Court in a year or two.

There are literally dozens of football and basketball recruits who back out of commitments every single year. Add in transfers, and you're talking about hundreds of kids.

 

[sportsart]

AH is the 28th NFL player arrested since the Super Bowl this year. NFL is the new NBA.

 

[intlzncster]

There are literally dozens of football and basketball recruits who back out of commitments every single year. Add in transfers, and you're talking about hundreds of kids.

They are all murders though, no? Don't get in front of hthusky74's self righteousness.

 

[hthusky74]

There are literally dozens of football and basketball recruits who back out of commitments every single year. Add in transfers, and you're talking about hundreds of kids.

So there are a lot of people that lack integrity out there. What do you want me to say?

 

[hthusky74]

They are all murders though, no? Don't get in front of hthusky74's self righteousness.

All I said is that they lack integrity. They may become murderers, embezzelers, used car salesman, brain surgeons, or perhaps President of the US. I'm just saying they lack integrity and when something like this happens, it just bears it out.

 

[ZenConn]

Maybe its time to readdress the Rookie Symposium and institute some additional guidance sessions other than for two days at the Hall of Fame Game (or whenever it is). These are 21-23 year old kids with $millions.

Additional guidance sessions telling these kids it's not good to hit or kill someone? That it's not good to drive drunk and plow someone over? There's an underlying problem with these athletes that's beyond what I can explain.

 

[hthusky74]

Additional guidance sessions telling these kids it's not good to hit or kill someone? That it's not good to drive drunk and plow someone over? There's an underlying problem with these athletes that's beyond what I can explain.

False machismo.

 

[ZenConn]

False machismo.

I have that but I don't go around killing people

 

[Husky25]

Additional guidance sessions telling these kids it's not good to hit or kill someone? That it's not good to drive drunk and plow someone over? There's an underlying problem with these athletes that's beyond what I can or try explain.

You're right. We should just stay the course, because that's been working out sooo well. The status quo is a great idea.

Additional guidance may not help, but who's it gonna hurt? And I didn't say limit it to just additional guidance sessions, thank you. I said set up a true Veteran to Rookie mentoring program that continues beyond the Rookie Symposium and potentially into 2 or 3 years.

If it was mandatory for an Accounting graduate making $35K in the Big 5 (at the time), surely it can't hurt a potential college drop out making $3.5 Mil and who play a violent game that is 1000x more stressful than public accounting.

 

[ZenConn]

You're right. We should just stay the course, because that's been working out sooo well. The status quo is a great idea.

Additional guidance may not help, but who's it gonna hurt? And I didn't say limit it to just additional guidance sessions, thank you. I said set up a true Veteran to Rookie mentoring program that continues beyond the Rookie Symposium and potentially into 2 or 3 years.

If it was mandatory for an Accounting graduate making $35K in the Big 5 (at the time), surely it can't hurt a potential college drop out making $3.5 Mil and who play a violent game that is 1000x more stressful than public accounting.

I'm not saying something shouldn't be done but rather something more drastic in addition with mentoring and symposium changes.

 

[freescooter]

There are literally dozens of football and basketball recruits who back out of commitments every single year. Add in transfers, and you're talking about hundreds of kids.

First of all, Tranfers are a whole different situation. I suspect half of them are pushed out to free up scholarships. Others came and discovered they had made a mistake. But when somebody commits he ought to keep that commitment. Nobody forced hernandez to commit to UConn. I get he was 17 and 17 year olds sometimes get cold feet, but this wasn't a case of cold feet. But in hindsight, this is one case where I am thrilled he DID break his word.

 

[uconnbill]

AH is the 28th NFL player arrested since the Super Bowl this year. NFL is the new NBA.

That is troubling to say the least. The NFL needs to deal with issue and do it fast before it's branding won't be tarnished anymore.

I feel for AH family and of course DJ who is and will always be part of the Husky family