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There are literally dozens of football and basketball recruits who back out of commitments every single year. Add in transfers, and you're talking about hundreds of kids.


They are all murders though, no? Don't get in front of hthusky74's self righteousness.
 
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There are literally dozens of football and basketball recruits who back out of commitments every single year. Add in transfers, and you're talking about hundreds of kids.
So there are a lot of people that lack integrity out there. What do you want me to say?
 
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They are all murders though, no? Don't get in front of hthusky74's self righteousness.
All I said is that they lack integrity. They may become murderers, embezzelers, used car salesman, brain surgeons, or perhaps President of the US. I'm just saying they lack integrity and when something like this happens, it just bears it out.
 
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Maybe its time to readdress the Rookie Symposium and institute some additional guidance sessions other than for two days at the Hall of Fame Game (or whenever it is). These are 21-23 year old kids with $millions.
Additional guidance sessions telling these kids it's not good to hit or kill someone? That it's not good to drive drunk and plow someone over? There's an underlying problem with these athletes that's beyond what I can explain.
 
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Additional guidance sessions telling these kids it's not good to hit or kill someone? That it's not good to drive drunk and plow someone over? There's an underlying problem with these athletes that's beyond what I can explain.
False machismo.
 

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Additional guidance sessions telling these kids it's not good to hit or kill someone? That it's not good to drive drunk and plow someone over? There's an underlying problem with these athletes that's beyond what I can or try explain.

You're right. We should just stay the course, because that's been working out sooo well. The status quo is a great idea. :rolleyes:

Additional guidance may not help, but who's it gonna hurt? And I didn't say limit it to just additional guidance sessions, thank you. I said set up a true Veteran to Rookie mentoring program that continues beyond the Rookie Symposium and potentially into 2 or 3 years.

If it was mandatory for an Accounting graduate making $35K in the Big 5 (at the time), surely it can't hurt a potential college drop out making $3.5 Mil and who play a violent game that is 1000x more stressful than public accounting.
 
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You're right. We should just stay the course, because that's been working out sooo well. The status quo is a great idea. :rolleyes:

Additional guidance may not help, but who's it gonna hurt? And I didn't say limit it to just additional guidance sessions, thank you. I said set up a true Veteran to Rookie mentoring program that continues beyond the Rookie Symposium and potentially into 2 or 3 years.

If it was mandatory for an Accounting graduate making $35K in the Big 5 (at the time), surely it can't hurt a potential college drop out making $3.5 Mil and who play a violent game that is 1000x more stressful than public accounting.

I'm not saying something shouldn't be done but rather something more drastic in addition with mentoring and symposium changes.
 
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There are literally dozens of football and basketball recruits who back out of commitments every single year. Add in transfers, and you're talking about hundreds of kids.
First of all, Tranfers are a whole different situation. I suspect half of them are pushed out to free up scholarships. Others came and discovered they had made a mistake. But when somebody commits he ought to keep that commitment. Nobody forced hernandez to commit to UConn. I get he was 17 and 17 year olds sometimes get cold feet, but this wasn't a case of cold feet. But in hindsight, this is one case where I am thrilled he DID break his word.
 

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AH is the 28th NFL player arrested since the Super Bowl this year. NFL is the new NBA.

That is troubling to say the least. The NFL needs to deal with issue and do it fast before it's branding won't be tarnished anymore.

I feel for AH family and of course DJ who is and will always be part of the Husky family
 
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First of all, Tranfers are a whole different situation. I suspect half of them are pushed out to free up scholarships. Others came and discovered they had made a mistake. But when somebody commits he ought to keep that commitment. Nobody forced hernandez to commit to UConn. I get he was 17 and 17 year olds sometimes get cold feet, but this wasn't a case of cold feet. But in hindsight, this is one case where I am thrilled he DID break his word.
It's impossible to know what would happened had he stuck to UConn. But it is obvious the SEC fosters a gang mentality (if you already aren't in one) and Edsall was one tough disciplinarian. It really is unfortunate AH lost his father when he did. But he also had tens of millions of reasons to be grateful.
 

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Might have said it with less edge . . . but yeah. . . . when will these guys learn. Leave the homies in the rear view mirror, leave the 'hood for the occasional visit home to see a relative. This gang BS, and homeboy crap is ridiculous (at least when the homeboys are thugs and criminals who have nothing to offer anyone in society). May sound cold but you have to protect what you've worked for and remember that you have to be loyal to your family and teammates.

Probably should have gone to UConn and been with DJ and Randy. Certainly he would have had better role models during those formative years.

Yes, members of Pellet Gate would have been a tremendous influence on him.


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Don't let Addazio off the hook.

After AH committed to UConn. Addazio fake recruited another Bristol kid, he then got AH to "accompany" the fake recruit (a player Addazio/Florida had no interest in signing). Wosre Addazio did this without letting AH mother know he was on his way to Florida. So behing his mother's back Addazio and AH went to Gainesville. Lord only knows what recruiting ploys were used on that trip.But Addazio bagged his trophy.

So what did AH learn from Addazio.

1 sneak around to get your way,
2 to avoid your love ones,
3 to break your word,
4 commitment means nothing.
Great mentor of young man, Mr. Addazio.

Your list sounds like every college head coach in America.


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Maybe its time to readdress the Rookie Symposium and institute some additional guidance sessions other than for two days at the Hall of Fame Game (or whenever it is). These are 21-23 year old kids with $millions. I entered the workforce out of college, making mid $30ks with an assigned mentor by my then-employer. I don't see how this would hurt athletes making multiple 100x that amount.

To me however is that the kid made a mistake. Let him go through the legal system, pay his debt to society (if any), suffer the consequences of the NFL (if any further), and I'm not opposed to giving him another chance, so long he earns it and is good enough. Its the 3rd 4th and 5th chances I have a problem with.

Do you believe Ray Lewis deserved another chance?


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AH is the 28th NFL player arrested since the Super Bowl this year. NFL is the new NBA.

NBA doesn't have as many psychotic, steroid abusing sociopaths as the NFL. Completely untrue.


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Lost in todays news is that a browns player is charged with attempted murder, bottom line is that people are just crazy it exists everywhere everyday, it so happens its an NFL player.
 
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NBA doesn't have as many psychotic, steroid abusing sociopaths as the NFL. Completely untrue.


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Being I can't link with this POS tablet.....

The percentages I found in terms of arrests for NBA, NFL, MLB and general population is very roughly in a given year

NFL 2%
MLB 2.1%
general population 3.9%
NBA 5.1%

Rough to say the least and I'm sure there are others that will move the numbers but it's what I found.

The media gives the perception athletes get arrested more.
 

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Being I can't link with this POS tablet.....

The percentages I found in terms of arrests for NBA, NFL, MLB and general population is very roughly in a given year

NFL 2%
MLB 2.1%
general population 3.9%
NBA 5.1%

Rough to say the least and I'm sure there are others that will move the numbers but it's what I found.

The media gives the perception athletes get arrested more.

That's a weird stat. I can't remember as many NBA arrests as I do the NFL.


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That's a weird stat. I can't remember as many NBA arrests as I do the NFL.


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arrested for what though Weed, DUI?

The NFL has had more serious cases like Rae Carruth, and Ray Lewis of course and others that not too many people have talked about like the Donte Stallworth incident or Leonard Little, of course the OJ case, Pac Man Jones, Nate Newton, Tank Johnson. We often dont hear about the NBA players incidents because they get arrested for dumb things like Weed and stuff like that, not guns, murder .
 
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That's a weird stat. I can't remember as many NBA arrests as I do the NFL.


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The NFL has 90 players on the roster and the NBA has 13. So the 5.1 percent of NBAers is approximately .6 per team. The NFL's 2 percent is 1.8 per team.
Correction NFL roster is 53. So it is 1.6 per team.
 

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arrested for what though Weed, DUI?

The NFL has had more serious cases like Rae Carruth, and Ray Lewis of course and others that not too many people have talked about like the Donte Stallworth incident or Leonard Little, of course the OJ case, Pac Man Jones, Nate Newton, Tank Johnson. We often dont hear about the NBA players incidents because they get arrested for dumb things like Weed and stuff like that, not guns, murder .

But how often do you hear about them? I can't name 3 NBA players that I can remember that's been arrested without researching it.


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The Nets Johnson shotgun murder comes to mind. His limo driver or something like that. Might have been manslaughter.
 

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First of all, Tranfers are a whole different situation. I suspect half of them are pushed out to free up scholarships. Others came and discovered they had made a mistake. But when somebody commits he ought to keep that commitment. Nobody forced hernandez to commit to UConn. I get he was 17 and 17 year olds sometimes get cold feet, but this wasn't a case of cold feet. But in hindsight, this is one case where I am thrilled he DID break his word.


Why don't you tell that to the coaches. If coaches don't do it, why should the players? It starts at the top.
 
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