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Orangutan said:
She can't have a little fun with it by posting some highlights for a #tbt? She didn't make a particular comment with them. You can have an idea of what her intent *might* be but that's your projection onto an innocuous video.
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It's obviously not classy.
 
MilfordHusky said:
It's obviously not classy.
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Well it wasn't classy to let her promote the Olympics and then cut her.

Truth be told, I have never understood the obsession with "class" in women's basketball. I swear golf isn't half as stuffy and that's saying something.

I took that as her saying (to quote the late Dusty Rhodes) "Brother I am bad and they know I'm bad"

I've questioned her attitude before. I've never seen someone who could complain to a ref and back pedal simultaneously so fluidly.

However, in this case, the majority wbb fans agree that she should be on this team. Yet if she posts anything that even implies that she thinks the same she is branded as classless? I just don't think it's right. But I suspect I won't convince those who think otherwise and they certainly won't convince me.
 
Orangutan said:
Well it wasn't classy to let her promote the Olympics and then cut her.

Truth be told, I have never understood the obsession with "class" in women's basketball. I swear golf isn't half as stuffy and that's saying something.

I took that as her saying (to quote the late Dusty Rhodes) "Brother I am bad and they know I'm bad"

I've questioned her attitude before. I've never seen someone who could complain to a ref and back pedal simultaneously so fluidly.

However, in this case, the majority wbb fans agree that she should be on this team. Yet if she posts anything that even implies that she thinks the same she is branded as classless? I just don't think it's right. But I suspect I won't convince those who think otherwise and they certainly won't convince me.
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I agree about her promoting the game.

I think she should be on the team, but I understand possible reasons why USA Basketball chose other players instead. I defer to them and their track record.

Lots of folks are emotional and having a knee-jerk reaction. I find UCMiami's and UConnCat's arguments most compelling.

Watergate was a scandal. This is NOT a scandal.
 
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Orangutan said:
Well it wasn't classy to let her promote the Olympics and then cut her.

Truth be told, I have never understood the obsession with "class" in women's basketball. I swear golf isn't half as stuffy and that's saying something.

I took that as her saying (to quote the late Dusty Rhodes) "Brother I am bad and they know I'm bad"

I've questioned her attitude before. I've never seen someone who could complain to a ref and back pedal simultaneously so fluidly.

However, in this case, the majority wbb fans agree that she should be on this team. Yet if she posts anything that even implies that she thinks the same she is branded as classless? I just don't think it's right. But I suspect I won't convince those who think otherwise and they certainly won't convince me.
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That video is of an extreme low point in UCONN history. She is pouring salt in a very deep wound, and one that we never had an opportunity to avenge. Although most on this board agree she should have been selected for the Olumpic team, that reminder may challenge our objectivity from here on out.
 
Orangutan said:
Well it wasn't classy to let her promote the Olympics and then cut her.

Truth be told, I have never understood the obsession with "class" in women's basketball. I swear golf isn't half as stuffy and that's saying something.

I took that as her saying (to quote the late Dusty Rhodes) "Brother I am bad and they know I'm bad"

I've questioned her attitude before. I've never seen someone who could complain to a ref and back pedal simultaneously so fluidly.

However, in this case, the majority wbb fans agree that she should be on this team. Yet if she posts anything that even implies that she thinks the same she is branded as classless? I just don't think it's right. But I suspect I won't convince those who think otherwise and they certainly won't convince me.
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Fine, don't use the word "classy." Substitute the word "professional." She already said she was disappointed and surprised not to be on the team. Fair enough. Posting a 9-year-old video of one dunk vs. UConn is something else entirely. She knows exactly what people are saying and exactly how that will play.

The fact that she would resort, under these circumstances, to posting something like that says a lot, in my opinion, about why she didn't make the team this time.
 
j66kicker said:
That video is of an extreme low point in UCONN history. She is pouring salt in a very deep wound, and one that we never had an opportunity to avenge. Although most on this board agree she should have been selected for the Olumpic team, that reminder may challenge our objectivity from here on out.
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That is what you considered an extreme low point in UConn history? There were seasons before Geno, and not even mediocre ones, so where do those rate?
 
Justavisitor said:
This is the attitude that will keep the game from growing. So what if Candace has an attitude? So what if DT has an attitude? So what if Angel has an attitude? And the list goes on. Set it aside and put the best talent on the floor. There's a reason the men's game flourishes. Use their attitudes to advance the game by growing the audience. The audience loves the flare and swag that these players bring to the court. They love their edginess. Do you think everyone loved Michael Jordan? Some couldn't stand the guy. Or Kobe? Or Lebron?
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Fans don't love LeBron James - they admire him and are in awe of his talent. As for peoples' feelings about him - he's perpetually in the Top 10 most disliked athletes lists. Michael Jordan, however, is widely beloved a decade after playing his last game.

The mens game and the womens game have two completely different fan bases. What the younger, predominantly male fans want to see is different from the older men, young families, and female spectators. I don't know that they're looking for the same experiences when they go to games.

Not eveything that's female needs to be like the male version to be better.
 
Orangutan said:
Sure she's throwing a little shade. I just don't think it's a big deal.
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I would not have had a problem with CP video if this was an initial reaction. A few days after the news broke makes her look bitter than her initial reaction where she stated she respected the decision.
 
Orangutan said:
She can't have a little fun with it by posting some highlights for a #tbt? She didn't make a particular comment with them. You can have an idea of what her intent *might* be but that's your projection onto an innocuous video.
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I don't have a problem with her posting it, but that was NOT an innocuous video.
 
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DaddyChoc said:
same reason you want us to care about your opinion... and if you didn't want us to care why post it, keep it to yourself
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Wolves do not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep. I don't care what you think of my opinion. Take it or leave it. We post on here. Does she? Then why should we care about her opinion?
 
She's hurt...

It happened....

To my way of thinking, anger, frustration, finding some way to get back at whom she deems the culprit, childish...even funny
Not of any consequence.

Pales in comparison with her being left off the team, after promoting it at USA BB's request:
(They certainly didn't anticipate her not being on the team when she was shooting commercials).

And the laughable attempt at a coverup.
These people are a public relations nightmare.
Reminds me of Gilda Radner


Is it any wonder that the league barely survives...paying coolie wages.
 
Clearly there is more going on with this situation. Why don't people just spill the beans already.. just air it out there... I'm tired of people weighing in just to give little jabs and indirect messages... If you're going to mention it... then mention it... This is not directed at the boneyarder's :) This is directed at USA Basketball, CP, Tina Thompson, etc... and those other twitter posters...
 
Plebe said:
This is a real shocker. Candace figured to be one of the shoo-ins.

But do people really not understand that it's the selection committee that selects the players, not the coach?
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If you think that you are pretty naive.
 
UConnCat said:
Your position doesn't make sense given what USA BB has done in the past, i.e., putting one very young, recent college graduate on a team of more experienced players. USA BB did that in 2004 with Taurasi who had just graduated from college. USA BB did that in 2008 with Parker who had just graduated from college. USA BB did that with Maya Moore though she was one year out of college. What USA BB is doing with Stewart is exactly what it did with Taurasi, Parker and Moore.
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But did they have to leave a superstar off the team to do it?
 
Jmpenn said:
It seems pretty obvious that you are not going to agree with me. She has put in many hours with USA basketball. I'm not saying others haven't but you can not say she has not been dedicated. She didn't play much oversees last season because she wanted to spend time with family and to get ready for the Olympics.

Parker Balances Basketball, Family
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One of the major things Coach K put in when he took over, was the NBA players had to be totally committed to being on the team. Players who for whatever reason weren't able to participate in all aspects of the training were taken out of the pool of eligible players. There was no I can't play in the world games because I'm injured, but I'll play in the Olympics.
 
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CocoHusky said:
Apples, oranges & bananas. CP is PF and occasionally SF. Angel is SG and occasionally SF.
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Not to you, but she was mentioned as someone who might have been left off for CP.
 
wolverine said:
But did they have to leave a superstar off the team to do it?
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It was already in the plan from the vision of this year's team. It was discussed during the Final Four when Beth Mowins noted at 5:32 of the 3rd period against Oregon State game that Breanna was expected to be the college student put on the team. So without any regard to the inclusion or exclusion of Candace Parker Stewie was going to be on the team.

The issue really isn't Stewie vs Candace, it is Candace vs Angel, Catchings, EDD, Tina, Fowles or Griner. Again I ask the question, "What was USA Basketball trying to accomplish FOR THE TEAM with that selection and how did the three above fulfill those needs better than even Candace?"

How does Candace or any of those players strengthen or weaken the team?

Consider shooting %s (efficiency)
3pt %s: spread the floor
Assists: share the ball
Rebounding Defensive (controlling opponents second chances and easy clean up hoops)
Rebounding Offensive (gaining second chances and putting the ball back in or getting to the line)
Post strength body check defense (stop opponents bigs from getting to the low block)
Perimeter defense (controlling shot quality whether 3s or slashing to the hoop)
Defensive rotation (quickness to proper position avoiding a foul, not just blocking a shot)
On ball defense (Keeping a player in front of you and not making a teammate vulnerable on rotation)
Foul shooting
Propensity to get in foul trouble
International experience (understanding the difference in how the game is called)
Previous experience with USA Basketball
 
HoopsFan21 said:
That is what you considered an extreme low point in UConn history? There were seasons before Geno, and not even mediocre ones, so where do those rate?
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What is the term used for American pre-western history ... pre-columbian I believe - that about sums it up! :)
 
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Justavisitor said:
This is the attitude that will keep the game from growing. So what if Candace has an attitude? So what if DT has an attitude? So what if Angel has an attitude? And the list goes on. Set it aside and put the best talent on the floor. There's a reason the men's game flourishes. Use their attitudes to advance the game by growing the audience. The audience loves the flare and swag that these players bring to the court. They love their edginess. Do you think everyone loved Michael Jordan? Some couldn't stand the guy. Or Kobe? Or Lebron?
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So, look up Isiah Thomas' stats from the '92 Dream Team. I'll wait.

Oh, you can't find them? That's weird. He was a perennial All-Star and one of the NBA's best point guards. How could he have not been selected for the '92 Olympic team?

Oh, you found this quote from Magic Johnson about him: "Isiah killed his own chances when it came to the Olympics. Nobody on that team wanted to play with him."

Huh. Maybe sometimes attitude does matter?

(Which is not to say is the case here, simply that it is the case sometimes.)
 
Another consideration to add to the list above in playing offensive ball and critical for all players is for them to continually set screens of all types within the offense. This is something constantly occurring in every UCONN game. Posts particularly must continually set high and low, up and down screens.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
Stumbled into this editorial from the Lady Vols perspective this morning. Blame my morning Bing report.

Was Candace Parker Railroaded from Team USA by Geno Auriemma?

Note from his perspective she's the greatest player in the world and for sure the WNBA. :eek:
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This article is utterly asinine, from the first word. It reeks of the sixth-grade playground sense of entitlement and relevancy that so often oozes from Tennessee fans - but a writer should know better, even in an opinion piece.
 
CocoHusky said:
Wait, I'm confused why are you talking about Elena Delle Donne? This is supposed to be about CP.
Friday morning links: Elena Delle Donne out for FIBA World Championships, 2014 WNBA Finals TV ratings, Big East TV schedule
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I know you're just being funny but Elena's back was so in terrible shape after that season. She had a bulging disk that was so bad she was basically just a decoy in the Eastern Finals. And when she wasn't in the game she was lying down being stretched by trainers.
 
meyers7 said:
I don't have a problem with her posting it, but that was NOT an innocuous video.
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I get a dictionary definition of innocuous as "Not harmful or offensive". Posting a highlight isn't harming anything (besides maybe her chances of future USAB selection) and I don't think it's offensive except perhaps to the sensibilities of those who already don't like her. Reasonable minds can disagree, though, especially on issues of semantics.
 
"Geno was in the hospital for most of last week, so who knows much input he had in selecting the team, but he should give an explanation as to why Parker was left off."
 
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