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MilfordHusky said:
Is it just me, or does it seem that the women are winning 70% of the medals that USA has captured so far?
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GoUconn7961 said:
Not you, the women are carrying Team USA
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It speaks well to how important investing in women is when it comes to athletics. Hopefully these athletes can leverage their success and get more funding and/or sponsorships.
 
cancontent said:
It speaks well to how important investing in women is when it comes to athletics. Hopefully these athletes can leverage their success and get more funding and/or sponsorships.
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That seems to be the message now. I agree, I hope they can leverage this to more investment. I do know the Rugby team was gifted $1Million a year for the next 4 years by Michele Kang who owns several soccer clubs. So that's good news.
 
It has seemed pretty even to me in track and field /swimming. But the women seem to be getting more gold medals than the men in those races.
 
GoUconn7961 said:
That seems to be the message now. I agree, I hope they can leverage this to more investment. I do know the Rugby team was gifted $1Million a year for the next 4 years by Michele Kang who owns several soccer clubs. So that's good news.
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That was HUGE news. I only wish Canadian businesses saw it the same way here. It feels that Hockey Canada gets all the attention and most of the funding goes towards the mens side. :(:mad:

It's changing but ever so slowly. Doubt it will ever keep pace with what these athletes need to keep pace. A friend and I were joking that the NCAA should be asking the Canadian government for a fee because our sporting associations seem to rely on the NCAA scholarship system for athletic development than make the efforts to invest themselves.
 
I did the math. The women are outpacing the men by a decent margin. It seems like the most of that margin was due to the women medaling more than the men in swimming. It looks to be fairly even when you factor out swimming.

Source: https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/medals

86 total medals for the US as of midday in Paris August 7th.

Totals
Men: 32
Women: 48
Mixed: 6

24 gold
Men: 8
Women: 15
Mixed: 1

31 silver
Men: 10
Women: 17
Mixed: 4

31 bronze
Men: 14
Women: 16
Mixed: 1
 
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What happened to Canada WBB? Thought they'd do better than 0-3.
 
cancontent said:
That was HUGE news. I only wish Canadian businesses saw it the same way here. It feels that Hockey Canada gets all the attention and most of the funding goes towards the mens side. :(:mad:

It's changing but ever so slowly. Doubt it will ever keep pace with what these athletes need to keep pace. A friend and I were joking that the NCAA should be asking the Canadian government for a fee because our sporting associations seem to rely on the NCAA scholarship system for athletic development than make the efforts to invest themselves.
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It is not just Canada that lives on NCAA sports training but the whole world - an amazing number of world athletes are trained with US college scholarships, and even more are trained on US college campuses because that is where the coaches and facilities exist.

As far as the Women/Men medal counts, some of that is the level of competition/funding worldwide - while male athletes have an advantage in money and access over their female counterparts in the US, it is insignificant compared to the discrepancies that exists in many countries around the world. I think the US women have been leading the men for many years in both the Olympics and the World Championships.

There is also a strong economic incentive in professional sports (e.g. career/life altering money) for men to focus on a few lucrative sports, while women continue to have fewer of those options so perhaps have a wider 'amateur' focus across more sports. And the title IX money supports that - NCAA Colleges have cut/reduced many smaller men's programs (Wrestling for example) while expanding women's programs to balance out the large number of football scholarships.
 
UcMiami said:
It is not just Canada that lives on NCAA sports training but the whole world - an amazing number of world athletes are trained with US college scholarships, and even more are trained on US college campuses because that is where the coaches and facilities exist.

As far as the Women/Men medal counts, some of that is the level of competition/funding worldwide - while male athletes have an advantage in money and access over their female counterparts in the US, it is insignificant compared to the discrepancies that exists in many countries around the world. I think the US women have been leading the men for many years in both the Olympics and the World Championships.

There is also a strong economic incentive in professional sports (e.g. career/life altering money) for men to focus on a few lucrative sports, while women continue to have fewer of those options so perhaps have a wider 'amateur' focus across more sports. And the title IX money supports that - NCAA Colleges have cut/reduced many smaller men's programs (Wrestling for example) while expanding women's programs to balance out the large number of football scholarships.
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True, however some countries don't have the ability to fund programs like Canada does. In my country's case, it's not considered a priority. It's more than just funding it's also infrastructure for our national and provincial sporting organizations. It's non-existent.

On a federal level, their head is in the sand. For example, the early 2000s Canada had a national development program based in Hamilton which helped to develop players like Achonwa and the Plouffe sisters. That was scuttled and the Canada Basketball program has been struggling to rebuild ever since. Yes, some progress has been made, but had that program remained, in place imagine the possibilities.
 
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JDuro said:
Thrilling late dash from the middle of the pack by South Carolina Gamecocks alum Quincy Hall to win Gold in 400M. :cool:

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It's one thing to kick in a 1500. I've seldom seen anything like that in a 400, and I can't ever remember it at an Olympics or World Championship meet. Coming from 5-10 m back in the last 100 is ridiculous. I've DVRed it, can't wait to watch tonight.
 
JDuro said:
Thrilling late dash from the middle of the pack by South Carolina Gamecocks alum Quincy Hall to win Gold in 400M. :cool:

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He grimaced and lengthened his stride. His last 100 yards was incredible.
 
Bigboote said:
It's one thing to kick in a 1500. I've seldom seen anything like that in a 400, and I can't ever remember it at an Olympics or World Championship meet. Coming from 5-10 m back in the last 100 is ridiculous. I've DVRed it, can't wait to watch tonight.
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My son is still an avid long-distance runner and we're both fans of middle- and long-distance running. He came across this fact:
Last night's Olympic Final featured the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th fastest 1500’s ever run by an American!

The whole race was stupid fast: Yared Naguse said all strategy kind of went out the window and he was just determined to keep up. But the last 100 meters was crazy: even though the Norwegian and the Brit started tightening up, they still ran 10.3, which is cooking. Get this: Americans Cole Hocker (the gold medal winner) and Naguse (bronze) each ran 10.0. How did all of them keep pushing like that? Great, great efforts.
 
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Bigboote said:
It's one thing to kick in a 1500. I've seldom seen anything like that in a 400, and I can't ever remember it at an Olympics or World Championship meet. Coming from 5-10 m back in the last 100 is ridiculous. I've DVRed it, can't wait to watch tonight.
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In my lifetime I have never seen someone completely break form and grimace the final 80 meters of the 400 and still still manage to go faster.

What every track coach in America is thinking now :D
 
cancontent said:
Weird ending to the USA-Nigeria game. Otherwise, the competitiveness in Nigeria to keep battling is to be commended.
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Can you elaborate? I didn't catch the game.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Can you elaborate? I didn't catch the game.
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The USA was up 25 with 4 minutes left. Nigeria made a lot of shots when the game was over. Even to the extent that they scored with less than 2 seconds left in the game. Even after the USA let the shot clock run out on their last possession.
Copper took exception to the last second layup.
 
rvwsleep said:
The USA was up 25 with 4 minutes left. Nigeria made a lot of shots when the game was over. Even to the extent that they scored with less than 2 seconds left in the game. Even after the USA let the shot clock run out on their last possession.
Copper took exception to the last second layup.
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But instead of taking the high road Copper had to throw the ball in the girls face. Not a good look. A tech was called but take into account the Nigeria team was taught to play hard until the clock runs out and they are an up and coming program. Of course they want to play the USA team as close as possible. If it were a team you played a lot like in this country go ahead and be ticked off. But every 4 years in the Olympics just let it go. A word between the coaches would have sufficed.
 
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Didn't like how the US coaches played the 4th quarter - basically shut it down and stopped coaching. Yeah the USA was never in danger, but they looked bad. As Geno has said 'you are in show business - these people may never see you play another game, give them what they paid for the full 40 minutes or sit on the bench. Sloppy play sloppy passes, poor defense after 3 quarters of really solid play. Disrespectful.


As for the last two plays, USA just dribbled the ball for the 24 second shot clock leaving about 7 seconds remaining. They expected Nigeria to dribble out the clock and were annoyed when the ran in for a layup - Copper then threw the ball at the feet of Kalu and received a T. Basically a tempest in a teacup. But with the bad fourth quarter, it just added to a poor showing in my mind.
 
rvwsleep said:
The USA was up 25 with 4 minutes left. Nigeria made a lot of shots when the game was over. Even to the extent that they scored with less than 2 seconds left in the game. Even after the USA let the shot clock run out on their last possession.
Copper took exception to the last second layup.
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Interesting that she would take exception to that last second layup.
 
JellyBean said:
Interesting that she would take exception to that last second layup.
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Could you kindly elaborate? Did she do something similar to a team or allowed a last second lay up during a game? Or the fact she took exception at all?
 
Don't know if anyone watched the men's steeplechase yesterday. The USA men roaring back and finishing in the top three is a nice pattern.
I don't think I remember the last time the USA won a medal in that event. I can't find out what happened to the player that fell. Anyone have info on that?
 
GoUconn7961 said:
Don't know if anyone watched the men's steeplechase yesterday. The USA men roaring back and finishing in the top three is a nice pattern.
I don't think I remember the last time the USA won a medal in that event. I can't find out what happened to the player that fell. Anyone have info on that?
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The runner who fell (Girma of Ethiopia) was the world record holder and one of the clear medal favorites.

Really a horrifying fall. Seemed to hit his head on the track and lose consciousness, but appears to be doing better in the hospital.

www.theguardian.com

Ethiopia’s Lamecha Girma taken to hospital after horror fall in 3,000m steeplechase

Ethiopia’s Lamecha Girma regained consciousness and was talking after he was taken to hospital after his accident in the 3,000m steeplechase
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
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