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PAC dysfunction

Eastern Division, 8 FB affiliates.

Year end Div 1 Sagarin

Nova - 93
Army - 104
USF - 107
Navy - 122
Delaware - 143
UConn - 152
Temple - 173
UMass - 180
 
Western Division: 8 full members

Year end Div 1 Sagarin

Oregon State - 19
Washington State - 39
Boise State - 46
Tulane - 61
Fresno State - 75
Rice - 100
San Diego State - 109
Colorado State - 111
 
The B12 TV deal is ~$32M per school. Not apples to apples, but let’s give the AAC full $7M per school credit.

MWC at $4M per school.

The PAC was about $20M per school (x12 = $240M)

Seek an initial PAC TV deal at $30M each for the PAC-2 founders and $10M each for everyone else. That’s an average of $12.5M per team. Army-Navy game stays separate. That’s a net improvement for every member of the new conference. The PAC-2 even make out ok vs most of their defectors.
 
Zissou. Nobody here is interested in your fan fiction. That is what this is. Fan fiction
 
"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination."

(cue music from Twilight Zone theme}

But then, college football has indeed entered the Twilight Zone...so why not dream the most outlandish tales ?
 
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billybud said:
"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination."

(cue music from Twilight Zone theme}

But then, college football has indeed entered the Twilight Zone...so why not dream the most outlandish tales ?
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Exactly. Rutgers to the Big10, PAC crumbles, FSU sues the ACC, SMU to the ACC, mass hysteria, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together…

I remember when you thought the possibility of UConn to the Big East was an outlandish tale. I think you said it would be suicide for UConn athletics.

The PAC-2 is in an outlandish situation. The solution will take some imagination.
 
Wrongo...I said that UConn football would ultimately not be better served by the move...if UConn had built a competitive football team...they'd be in the Big 12 with Houston, Cincinnati, UCF.

Folks can scheme...it's just that your dreaming is on the far end of the whacko scale. But hey, whackos rule in this day. Notre Dame could join the ACC, USF could go to the A-10, Nova and Oregon State could play football in the same league and I could live to be 95.
 
billybud said:
Wrongo...I said that UConn football would ultimately not be better served by the move...if UConn had built a competitive football team...they'd be in the Big 12 with Houston, Cincinnati, UCF.

Folks can scheme...it's just that your dreaming is on the far end of the whacko scale. But hey, whackos rule in this day. Notre Dame could join the ACC, USF could go to the A-10, Nova and Oregon State could play football in the same league and I could live to be 95.
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“Athletic Suicide” I believe.

So after you were against it, you were for it?
 
I said, as did a few, that basketball would thrive back to its roots, but football would have a much more difficult time as an Independent....and that it was a forced choice that had to be made...save your #1 sport.

And that $$$ might be more difficult to come by...If, if, if...the football and basketball had been in a better cycle in the AAC, Uconn would be in the Big 12...
 
Zissou said:
Eastern Division, 8 FB affiliates.

Year end Div 1 Sagarin

Nova - 93
Army - 104
USF - 107
Navy - 122
Delaware - 143
UConn - 152
Temple - 173
UMass - 180
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I am open to any and all "fiction" scenarios. This craziness has been going on so long nothing is off the table.
 
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Patman said:
Zissou. Nobody here is interested in your fan fiction. That is what this is. Fan fiction
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Fan fiction fills the void between the games, and the actual Conference Realignment moves. How many of the posters have been spot on with all of the Conf Realignment moves of the last 20(?) years? It's interesting, and entertaining. Some of the thoughts and proposals are more far fetched than others, but hey, I read them and enjoy them. You never know, when that B1G Commissioners job opens if they don't search the BY like it is ZipRecruiter(Is that fanfiction enough for you??)
 
Zissou said:
Any good points? Paywall
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It's basically a summary. I use 12ft Ladder which works on many paywall sites

▪ The development of super conferences.
Four conferences — the Southeastern Conference, Big Ten, Big 12 and the Atlantic Coast Conference — will have a combined 68 schools in their membership beginning later this calendar year. And there has been talk about a possible super conference with the most elite football programs.

▪ Money is running this ship.
ESPN, Fox/FS1, CBS, NBC and conference networks have invested billions of dollars to show college football and basketball games.
The Name, Image and Likeness (NIL) situation means athletes now can get paid by companies for promoting their products. (If you’re a Gonzaga basketball fan, think about all of those Northern Quest Casino commercials last season with Drew Timme.)

▪ The transfer portal.
Athletes now can leave their current school, be signed by a new school, and allowed to play immediately rather than sit out a year as the old rules stated. And the NCAA recently announced an athlete can enter the transfer portal a second time.
Here’s the problem: at least 30 percent of athletes who jump into the transfer portal never get selected by a new school, and never play again.

Who knows what it will be like a year from now?
At times, all of this has made me lose interest in college sports.
But one thing for sure has happened — I now remember to take out the garbage.
 
"Here’s the problem: at least 30 percent of athletes who jump into the transfer portal never get selected by a new school, and never play again."

Wow, that is an astonishing and disturbing statistic. Which means those kids(how many are we talking about??) lose their scholarship and in many cases their educational opportunity. School of Hard Knocks.
 
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AllHusky said:
"Here’s the problem: at least 30 percent of athletes who jump into the transfer portal never get selected by a new school, and never play again."

Wow, that is an astonishing and disturbing statistic. Which means those kids(how many are we talking about??) lose their scholarship and in many cases their educational opportunity. School of Hard Knocks.
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I was going to mention, that is one of the stats that stood out to me.

I'd like to know if there are statistics showing the various reasons kids enter the portal . . . move up to a better program, move for more playing time, move for a better fit, how many transfers work out, the reasons kids are transferring to UConn, etc. But for so many kids to enter the portal and not play again, that is a sad casualty of all this chaos.
 
  • 54% reported enrolling at a new school
  • 41% have not found a new school, are still looking, transferred to a non-NCAA school, or left their sport completely
  • 59% of scholarship transfers found a scholarship at a new FBS school
  • 8% left their scholarships and became walk-ons at a new school
  • 33% of players remain without a destination

    It is indeed risky...for the higher rated, an opportunity...but for others a desperation move for bench warmers who really want a chance to see the field. Some will "move down" to see the field, some will not play again.

    FSU just took five 4 star transfers from Alabama, one 4 star from LSU and and one from Georgia...That is a tribute to Bama, Georgia, and LSU's recruiting. They have the talent where very good athletes will bleed off to be able to play.



 
Do not know if this is coincidental or only an Alabama phenomenon...but there is a divide in "loyalty"...

Although programs must recruit nationally, there may be a slight bite to that in the day of Portal transfers and NIL.

Alabama is losing some stud players to the Portal...but not kids from the state of Alabama. Programs that recruit local guys may find more of them attached to the program other than as a personal springboard.
 
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What an odd setup this will be. It doesn't say which conferences will receive the money? So if Arizona is playing a PAC bowl tie-in, does the Big 12 get the money for Arizona's participation?

www.actionnetwork.com

Departing Pac-12 Schools to Play in Pac-12 Affiliated Bowls, Yormark Says

Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark confirmed Brett McMurphy's report that departing Pac-12 schools will play in Pac-12 affiliated bowls.
www.actionnetwork.com www.actionnetwork.com
 
I can't believe he lasted this long! Should have been let go over six months ago at the LATEST when the PAC formally collapsed.
 
sports.yahoo.com

WSU's Kirk Schulz to propose to CFP leaders that Pac-12 be treated as power conference for 'extended future'

In the proposal, the Pac-12 is asking the CFP to guarantee the league revenue distribution amounts and voting privileges.
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I had to stop myself from spitting out my water when I read this quote....

“We’ve been an Autonomy Five school and have resourced ourselves at that level for 25-30 years,” Schulz said. “Just because we were left standing in musical chairs, we just don’t feel that we should be relegated by no fault of our own.”
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Hi, we're UConn, you might not have heard our story since Big East football dissolved. Now take your whining and accept that you lost at musical chairs. The pain will slowly go away in 10+ years, only to have your hopes raised from time to time and then shredded.
 
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