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noeynox said:
Come on man. Nova could at least commit to going FBS before you pretend they're more desirable than teams that have done it at that level.
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The 4 teams we are discussing all need a football future that isn’t defined, unless UD thinks it has found its home.

It’s a bit silly to talk about the historical greatness of these teams. If you are seeking to differentiate their greatness it’s not fulfilling discussion.

National championships? NFL Hall of Famers? BCS bowls won? Recent success?
 
Zissou said:
Which of those schools have won national championships? (Only one hasn’t)
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I kind of expected far better reading comprehension from a Nova grad.

My post stated nothing about which of the mentioned schools were or were not more accomplished at a level less than what is currently labeled FBS. It was pointing out that until Nova places you in charge and offers you full autonomy on decision making, the school moving from FCS football to FBS football is very unlikely.
 
saturdayoutwest.com

Homepage

Saturday Tradition is the home of Big Ten football and basketball. Get latest breaking news from each Big Ten team, coaches at ST.
saturdayoutwest.com
 
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saturdayoutwest.com

Homepage

Saturday Tradition is the home of Big Ten football and basketball. Get latest breaking news from each Big Ten team, coaches at ST.
saturdayoutwest.com
 
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Rufus said:
Interesting read on how the PAC-12 could fire GK for cause.......

www.mercurynews.com

Kliavkoff on the clock: With the lawsuit settled, Pac-12 schools can determine whether (or when) to fire the commissioner

Now that the schools have agreed to share the liabilities, Kliavkoff’s tenure could be coming to an end.
www.mercurynews.com www.mercurynews.com
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If this was another time another culture his kind of humiliation would require more than a resignation . That fact he is getting paid is testimony to our lack of accoutabilty. .
 
Oregon created a webpage discussing the benefits of joining the B1G:

Big Ten

A bold new chapter as the University of Oregon enters the Big Ten, expanding athletic excellence and academic opportunities nationwide.
www.uoregon.edu www.uoregon.edu
 
Rufus said:
Oregon created a webpage discussing the benefits of joining the B1G:

Big Ten

A bold new chapter as the University of Oregon enters the Big Ten, expanding athletic excellence and academic opportunities nationwide.
www.uoregon.edu www.uoregon.edu
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Interesting. I wonder if they've been getting some alumni/booster blowback on the decision?

I thought this was interesting spin:

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Note that the focus is on "travel days" rather than "travel time." Kids may be on an airplane for three or four hours more in any given day, but it's still only one "travel day" right?
 
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CL82 said:
Interesting. I wonder if they've been getting some alumni/booster blowback on the decision?

I thought this was interesting spin:


Note that the focus is on "travel days" rather than "travel time." Kids may be on an airplane for three or four hours more in any given day, but it's still only one "travel day" right?
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Everything happened so fast, I'm not sure there was time for pushback. At least with USC and UCLA, there was still a PAC-12 to go back to for the first year after the announcement, even though there is no way that would have happened. With Oregon and Washington, they left the same day as 3 of the 4 corner schools (Colorado had left the week before), so all that was left at the end of that day in August was Oregon State, Washington State, Cal and Stanford (the latter two found their way to the ACC in a matter of weeks). So even if Oregon or Washington fans were upset, there was essentially nothing to return to.

If this was Superman, Krypton (PAC-12) exploded and just before explosion, Superman (Oregon/Washington) was put on a space shuttle to Earth (B1G).
 
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huskymedic said:
www.oregonlive.com

Cost of rebuilding Pac-12 using Mountain West schools could exceed $50 million in fees

If a current Mountain West school accepts an invitation from Oregon State and Washington State to join the Pac-12 before Aug. 1, 2027, the cost starts at $10 million per school
www.oregonlive.com www.oregonlive.com
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"The withdrawal and termination fees are waived if the entire 12-school Mountain West is accepted into the new Pac-12."

So that essentially guarantees a full merger? Or the PAC2 spends 2027 as a true independent and they try to pick apart the MWC for 2028
 
For 2025:
8 full member teams only, minimum conf requirement.

Oregon State
Washington State
Rice
Tulane
USF
Temple
UMass
Delaware

Affiliate Football:

Army (Patriot)
Navy (Patriot)
UConn (Big East)
Nova (Big East)

Then, Aug 2, 2027 the MWC invites go out to San Diego State, Fresno State, Boise State, and Colorado State. USF, Temple, UMass, and UD go to the A10 but stay as affiliate FB:

Western Division: 8 full members

Oregon State
Washington State
San Diego State
Fresno State
Boise State
Colorado State
Rice
Tulane

Eastern Division, 8 FB affiliates.

Army - Patriot (FB only)
Navy - Patriot (FB only)
UConn - Big East (FB only)
Nova - Big East (FB only)
Temple - A10 (FB only)
UMass - A10 (FB only)
Delaware - A10 (FB only)
USF - A10 (FB only)


The PAC has a 2024 plan with a MWC contract.

For 2025-2026, the PAC has 8 full members plus 4 affiliate members. It meets NCAA requirements and stays alive without stepping on its MWC commitment.

For 2027 forward, 8 full members + 8 east coast affiliate members. Texas/NOLA stays west. Florida stays east.

The AAC can be poached without any financial hurdles.

The east coast affiliates are the Mass-NY-Phila-DC mega market plus Florida.

With east coast affiliates the PAC can safely stay at 8 full members without unnecessary west coast dilution. Zags and St Mary’s are invited as members, non-football, for a 10 team basketball schedule.
 
Zissou said:
For 2025:
8 full member teams only, minimum conf requirement.

Oregon State
Washington State
Rice
Tulane
USF
Temple
UMass
Delaware

Affiliate Football:

Army (Patriot)
Navy (Patriot)
UConn (Big East)
Nova (Big East)

Then, Aug 2, 2027 the MWC invites go out to San Diego State, Fresno State, Boise State, and Colorado State. USF, Temple, UMass, and UD go to the A10 but stay as affiliate FB:

Western Division: 8 full members

Oregon State
Washington State
San Diego State
Fresno State
Boise State
Colorado State
Rice
Tulane

Eastern Division, 8 FB affiliates.

Army - Patriot (FB only)
Navy - Patriot (FB only)
UConn - Big East (FB only)
Nova - Big East (FB only)
Temple - A10 (FB only)
UMass - A10 (FB only)
Delaware - A10 (FB only)
USF - A10 (FB only)


The PAC has a 2024 plan with a MWC contract.

For 2025-2026, the PAC has 8 full members plus 4 affiliate members. It meets NCAA requirements and stays alive without stepping on its MWC commitment.

For 2027 forward, 8 full members + 8 east coast affiliate members. Texas/NOLA stays west. Florida stays east.

The AAC can be poached without any financial hurdles.

The east coast affiliates are the Mass-NY-Phila-DC mega market plus Florida.

With east coast affiliates the PAC can safely stay at 8 full members without unnecessary west coast dilution. Zags and St Mary’s are invited as members, non-football, for a 10 team basketball schedule.
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The A10 in the end nets 3 good adds: USF, UD, and Temple.

The MWC is left with Air Force, Reno, UNLV, New Mex, San Jose, Utah State, Wyoming, and Hawaii. That’s 8.

The AAC remnants: UAB, East Carolina, FAU,
Memphis, Charlotte, North Texas, UT San Antonio, and Tulsa. That’s 8 (plus the Shockers for BB).

The remnants of the MWC and the AAC can merge and finally realize Aresco’s dream of a national footprint.
 
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