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Our Resume Is Set, What's Our Seed?

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One advantage that a top seed may get usually is having a home crowd advantage in the opening rounds, which they won't this year obviously. So on a neutral court we won't have that disadvantage like in the past. Remember the last time when we faced Kansas in round 2 ?
 
Vuce said:
Ok so that Nova team was awesome and won the NCAA Tournament. But they had 6 NBA players on their roster, lost 5 games and didn’t win the Big East tournament. Zags are great too and will be favored. It will take a great game to beat them. But they are not unbeatable. If that is our draw, bring em on
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The optimal time to get them may actually be the round of 32. They haven’t played another high major since UVA on 12/26 so they would really be dealing with the big boys for the first time in almost three months. They also haven’t had to deal with Big East / Big Ten level physicality since the Iowa game, also back in Dec. Assuming they need to adjust, that’s probably the first game or two- the cream always rises to the top- and then they’re off and running.

The caveat for us- besides their absurd level of talent- is the challenge of adjusting to likely tighter officiating during the tourney. The Big East refs have largely swallowed their whistles at MSG but our bigs could be in for a rude awakening next weekend if they try banging the same way down low.
 
Given all the votes for 8 seed, who are we thinking will be the 4th 1 seed?
 
navery12 said:
Given all the votes for 8 seed, who are we thinking will be the 4th 1 seed?
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I think Baylor, Gonzaga, Michigan, and illinois are pretty well locked in, even if Iowa beats Illinois today. Illinois with a chance to pass Michigan for 4th seed if they win their tourny.
 
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FYI: Went back to the Oct 14, 2020 thread "Realistic Expectations This Season". Have to complement the boneyard. In general the consensus was a 3-5 finish in the Big East, win a game in MSG, get a 7-9 seed, and win 1-2 ncaa games with room for upside surprise. I'd say that is spot on. As a sidenote, @HooperScooper and @superjohn wrote platitudes but didn't venture an expectation. I expected more people would have been happy just to make the tourney after our absence, but only about 2-3 of the 93 responses echoed that view. No one even suggested that we would be missing on Selection Sunday. You guys must watch basketball.
 
Looking solely at NET, we would be an 8 seed: NET Bracket at Bracketologists

Bracket Matrix has it as a 9

KenPom has it at 18, which would amount to a 5 seed

Missed 8 games without Bouknight, which supposedly is supposed to be considered

3-4 in Q1 games

It's going to be very close. As one example

Clemson is a 7 seed on Bracket Matrix, compare resumes, UConn should be a higher seed than Clemson factoring in all of the above and below especially since the selection committee is supposed to be putting value on road wins:

NET: 41
KenPom: 42
BPI: 39
Sagarin: 34
KPI: 16
Opp Avg NET: 79
Avg NET Win: 91
Avg NET Loss: 52
SOS: 39
OOC SOS: 176
Record: 16-7
Home: 11-1
Away: 2-5
Neutral: 3-1
SOR: 18

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NET: 30
KenPom: 18
BPI: 15
Sagarin: 22
KPI: 41
Opp Avg NET: 92
Avg NET Win: 117
Avg NET Loss: 40
SOS: 69
OOC SOS: 149
Record: 15-7
Home: 7-3
Away: 6-3
Neutral: 2-1
SOR: 31
 
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Vuce said:
I watched BYU not only hang with them but lead them for a lot of the game the other night. UConn is better than BYU
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Cool, the Zags beat BYU by double digits 3 times this year.
 
I thought I read or heard from one of the cbb guys that the seeding and resume's are basically done by Saturday evening. They announce Sunday to seed the last minute bid stealers and things that could happen in Sunday championship games. So, even if Gtown gives us another q1 win as of a few minutes ago, I believe that the seed for us has already been done, and it won't matter.
 
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On the bright side this is the year to be in the 8/9 as I don’t think all of the 1 seeds will be deserving outside of Gonzaga and Baylor. Wouldn’t be scared of being in the Michigan or Illinois regions
 
RayRay said:
I thought I read or heard from one of the cbb guys that the seeding and resume's are basically done by Saturday evening. They announce Sunday to seed the last minute bid stealers and things that could happen in Sunday championship games. So, even if Gtown gives us another q1 win as of a few minutes ago, I believe that the seed for us has already been done, and it won't matter.
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Could be wrong but I don't think that's true, that's ignoring a lot of games if it's true. IIRC that applies to the AAC and Big Ten championship games that happen a few hours before the selection show but that's it
 
RayRay said:
I thought I read or heard from one of the cbb guys that the seeding and resume's are basically done by Saturday evening. They announce Sunday to seed the last minute bid stealers and things that could happen in Sunday championship games. So, even if Gtown gives us another q1 win as of a few minutes ago, I believe that the seed for us has already been done, and it won't matter.
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That doesn't even make any sense. Why Saturday evening if they aren't going to care about results? Why not, say, last Tuesday? It absolutely matters
 
17 in KenPom. Will be interesting to see where the NET and BPI are. I think we should be a lock for a 7 seed now. We are actually ahead of Creighton in KenPom now.
 
XLCenterFan said:
Love it. I had Seton Hall and Maryland last year at like 50/60-1. Thought I had some good hedge equity.
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Gonzaga this year looks like the the biggest favorite to win the title in the KenPom era. With that designation though comes all the mitigating factors associated with a pandemic ridden season. So futures this year just led to so much volatility.

I could easily have seen MD vs. Dayton in the Elite 8. Whether Dayton got East or Midwest region could have gone a long way in deciding their fate in the Regional.

Nice picks!
 
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aburks41 said:
That doesn't even make any sense. Why Saturday evening if they aren't going to care about results? Why not, say, last Tuesday? It absolutely matters
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It does make sense. This committee gets together and starts reviewing things early this week and starts the blueprint for seeding. At that time, they have the metrics printed out for every team. If our 1 game against Gtown turns into a quad 1 on Saturday night at 9pm the night before seeding, there’s very little chance the committee will recognize that. They’re already keeping track of 40 something at large teams. Late Saturday and daytime Sunday is for making final shifts in seeding depending on what happens with the late games on Saturday and early Sunday games.
 
BFieldHusky said:
17 in KenPom. Will be interesting to see where the NET and BPI are. I think we should be a lock for a 7 seed now. We are actually ahead of Creighton in KenPom now.
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They beat us 3 times and are reasonably close in other metrics. Zero chance we're ahead of Creighton on the S curve.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
They beat us 3 times and are reasonably close in other metrics. Zero chance we're ahead of Creighton on the S curve.
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Didn't say we were above them. Just saying we are in KenPom.

They lost to GTown twice, at home, at by 25 on a neutral court. We beat that same team twice, by a combined 23 points. Its ok to admit that's a good thing @Tenspro2002.
 
we should be pulling for Grand Canyon vs New Mexico St. Hartford is currently 168 in NET and NMSU is 160. If Hartford gets to 160 UConns win vs them goes from Q4 to Q3. NMSU losing makes it a lot easier for Hartford to jump up. Also DePaul is 163 maybe they can do nothing and get a bump up to 160 too who knows
 
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