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Mr. Conehead said:
Much of that can be blamed on playing in Manaus. Every team has had fatigue issues there by the end of the game. Professional soccer in the heat and humidity of the Amazon with just 3 subs is not a good concept. I wished the Ref called for another water break right after the US’s second goal to give both teams the chance to rehydrate for the final push, which everyone knew was coming as Portugal had to tie to stay alive. I just hope the US team can recover enough to be fit for Thursday’s game with Germany and not to get destroyed. Klinsman’s rant was spot on; but, foolish as it may place a target on the US’s back, something we do not need.
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Recovery will hopefully not be a problem. The problem is they can't really train much, which is something you'd like to do to be sharp for the Germans.
 
bobbygt said:
I agree with all of this- I had forgotten about the Gonzalez for Zusi substitution.
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Which in hindsight may have been a mistake getting us out of formation. We put an extra defender central and took Zusi (admittedly not a great defender) out from his spot out wide. Portugal attacked in that space where Beasley was on an island. Of course, if Gonzalez busts his hump back and defends that last cross, it works. Or if the turnover wasn't in a bad place on the field, Bradley or Jones could have slid over to to give support on that side. There are dozens of what ifs on a play like that

Maybe a Gonzalez for Bradley/Jones sub would have worked better tactically with Beckerman pinching up a little more. Total hindsight, though.
 
intlzncster said:
Why did it fall through? Zoning? Investors pulling out?
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The soccer stadium was supposed to go in a park in Queens just south of the Ashe tennis stadium. Very strong local opposition for the locals and the Mets were not thrilled either, likely because the team is partly owned by the Yankees. The ‘new’ plan from 2013 has a stadium to be built in the Bronx just south of Yankee Stadium where a parking garage is on E 153rd; but, the new, less business friendly mayor of NYC has come out against it, so who knows at this point.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/major-league-soccer-won-coming-queens-pol-article-1.1394221#
 
Gurleyman said:
Which in hindsight may have been a mistake getting us out of formation. We put an extra defender central and took Zusi (admittedly not a great defender) out from his spot out wide. Portugal attacked in that space where Beasley was on an island. Of course, if Gonzalez busts his hump back and defends that last cross, it works. Or if the turnover wasn't in a bad place on the field, Bradley or Jones could have slid over to to give support on that side. There are dozens of what ifs on a play like that

Maybe a Gonzalez for Bradley/Jones sub would have worked better tactically with Beckerman pinching up a little more. Total hindsight, though.
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And that is why I always drink when watching the USMNT...
 
intlzncster said:
I put a defensemen in there for Beckerman and move Beckerman up to 'attacking' mid. He wouldn't be attacking of course. But that's just my opinion. Brooks could have gone in and I'd have been ok with it. Young/fresh legs to simply harass the opposition.
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That's essentially what he did in swapping Gonzalez for Zusi. Jones moved wider. Gonzalez was supposed to put 5 across the back, but was further upfield.

I've been saying this was a tactical mistake by JK. He also did it in the warmup match against Nigeria and it cost a goal late.

Playing 5 across the back is a waste imo. Once the ball is in the box, it's almost too late. You're 1v1 or 1v2 at best. You want to pressure the ball higher and clog the middle. Make them go around or over.

Which ironically is what they did, it just happened so fast the D couldn't recover and lost their heads.
 
intlzncster said:
So do you take the chance there? I think you do and make the third sub, given that there is no overtime in these games. If you have to go 10 men for 10 minutes or so at the end, you simply bunker down. The positives of having that fresh set of legs on defense outweigh the potential negatives of losing a man to injury imo.
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Perhaps. The last sub can also be a strategic time waster. They don't seem to add stoppage time when someone comes on after 90 minutes (I've kept an eye on that). And even if they do, that 60 seconds of sending a sub on for someone across the field can give your gassed guys one final breather.

I think if you feel there's someone who is so tired they are a liability, you do it. If you think you can provide cover while someone takes a play or two off, you maybe keep it in your pocket.

I think Jones would have come off before Bradley, though. He seemed even more spent.
 
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SubbaBub said:
That's essentially what he did in swapping Gonzalez for Zusi. Jones moved wider. Gonzalez was supposed to put 5 across the back, but was further upfield.

I've been saying this was a tactical mistake by JK. He also did it in the warmup match against Nigeria and it cost a goal late.

Playing 5 across the back is a waste imo. Once the ball is in the box, it's almost too late. You're 1v1 or 1v2 at best. You want to pressure the ball higher and clog the middle. Make them go around or over.

Which ironically is what they did, it just happened so fast the D couldn't recover and lost their heads.
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I wasn't saying 5 in the back though, just getting on guys with defensive minded/harassing attitudes to play in the mid field in order to press the opposition.
 
Uruguay not getting the ball to Suarez enough. Playing a little too conservative for the result they need.
 
SubbaBub said:
Which ironically is what they did, it just happened so fast the D couldn't recover and lost their heads.
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Cameron let up as he reached the area for no good reason. There were three guys back, can one really call it a tactical mistake because there weren't four?
 
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A little dissension in the Ghana Camp

Veronica Commey @VeronicaCommey
Ghana players to boycott training if they don't receive their appearance fee before travelling to Brazilia at 11 am today. #Asem b3ba dabi

Veronica Commey @VeronicaCommey
Apparently, players want pure cash though there was a supposed agreement to pay the money electronically before the tournament.

Nana Owusu Ansah @N_Pazl
So Muntari and KP Boateng had a bust-up in camp. KPB hurls insults on Muntari but coach Appiah mistakenly felt he's the target & weeps

Veronica Commey @VeronicaCommey
Don't be surprised if KP Boateng is kicked out of Ghana camp for insulting coach Appiah at training yesterday.Kevin was sent off after that.
 
Did Suarez just bite somebody there???? Oh my god.

The Cannibal strikes again!
 
The magic of Suarez's two big front teeth lead to a great Uruguayan header!

Metaphysically speaking of course.
 
The Uruguay and Italy game is getting ugly, Italy is down to 10 men (who got tossed?) and Uruguay just went ahead 1-0 on a set piece.
 
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StevieDude said:
A little dissension in the Ghana Camp

Veronica Commey @VeronicaCommey
Ghana players to boycott training if they don't receive their appearance fee before travelling to Brazilia at 11 am today. #Asem b3ba dabi

Veronica Commey @VeronicaCommey
Apparently, players want pure cash though there was a supposed agreement to pay the money electronically before the tournament.

Nana Owusu Ansah @N_Pazl
So Muntari and KP Boateng had a bust-up in camp. KPB hurls insults on Muntari but coach Appiah mistakenly felt he's the target & weeps

Veronica Commey @VeronicaCommey
Don't be surprised if KP Boateng is kicked out of Ghana camp for insulting coach Appiah at training yesterday.Kevin was sent off after that.
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I cannot believe these African countries not paying their players bonuses. This isn't the first time.
 
And this is a great example for those who think the Germans will just play for a draw.

It can bite you right in the ass. Although Italy can still tie this up. Pirlo has magic in that right foot.

Italy has 5 minutes. That's all Portugal needed.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
The Uruguay and Italy game is getting ugly, Italy is down to 10 men (who got tossed?) and Uruguay just went ahead 1-0 on a set piece.
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Marchisio stepped over the ball studs up into a guy's shin. A tad harsh, but it was reckless. Ref was standing right there.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Marchisio. Was barely a yellow. Suarez is a disgrace. _____ this game.
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Shouldn't have been sent off for sure, but that is definitely a yellow. You can't come up over the ball and even attempt to spike a guy in the leg. Plus he did it 1 foot in front of the ref. Shouldn't be off though, certainly not in a game of this magnitude.
 
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Was that Suarez on the 3 on 1 break and refused to pass in front of the Italian goal? Not smart. He also may have issues with the next game if FIFA reviews the bite he took out of Italy.
 
intlzncster said:
And this is a great example for those who think the Germans will just play for a draw.

It can bite you right in the ass. Although Italy can still tie this up. Pirlo has magic in that right foot.

Italy has 5 minutes. That's all Portugal needed.
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Yes, except that, in this game, only one team wants a draw. In the US/Germany game, both want it.

Suarez is an absolute lunatic, as usual. I have to think that Liverpool sells him now.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Was that Suarez on the 3 on 1 break and refused to pass in front of the Italian goal? Not smart. He also may have issues with the next game if FIFA reviews the bite he took out of Italy.
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He tried to pass to the lead guy on the left on the first attempt, but just screwed up the pass.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Yes, except that, in this game, only one team wants a draw. In the US/Germany game, both want it.
Suarez is an absolute lunatic, as usual. I have to think that Liverpool sells him now.
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My point there is that the US could squeak a goal in towards the end and dash the German's next round set up. They will be very keen to avoid that outcome. Best way to do that is to win.
 
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