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I love soccer but I can't stand the somersault into pounding the ground and holding your shin in apparent agony then the miraculous recovery for the free kick.
 
Waquoit said:
Yeah, the flopping sucks. But you have that chicken comment reversed. In football, you can go from playing pick-up hoop games in Guyer Gym to the NFL in 5 years. In soccer, you ain't going anywhere unless you start playing very young.
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Or a college wrestler or a professional weightlifter or a soccer player or a rugby player or a bunch of other things. If you are athletics, big and relatively smart, you can picku p the game at certain positions (obv not QB).
 
FriarJ said:
The next time somebody tells me Soccer is so much better than American Football they will get reminded by me that they can teach chickens to play soccer. The flopping distracts so much from my enjoyment of this sport that I can barely watch it. (And I want to like it) It absolutely affected the outcome of a game yesterday. The minute any of these players get the ball in the box the game then immediately shifts from sport to acting.
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But it's cool when lebron does it? Or kemba and shabazz? It's selling the play to get the call. You do what you can to get the advantage. If it backfires then it's a no call or a yellow card. Yeah that flop fred took yesterday to get the pk was bad but he took a risk and got the call to put his team in the position to take the lead. Also when you watch anything in slow motion it looks awful. All soccer players I know are good at other sports. You take someone fr football or any other sport and watch them struggle playing soccer
 
UConnSwag11 said:
But it's cool when lebron does it? Or kemba and shabazz? It's selling the play to get the call. You do what you can to get the advantage. If it backfires then it's a no call or a yellow card. Yeah that flop fred took yesterday to get the pk was bad but he took a risk and got the call to put his team in the position to take the lead. Also when you watch anything in slow motion it looks awful. All soccer players I know are good at other sports. You take someone fr football or any other sport and watch them struggle playing soccer
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He took the risk to cheat? How can that even be defended as appropriate? It is the number one thing American sports fans hate about soccer. As I said the play in the midfield and the skill and talent is breathtaking sometimes, outside of corner kicks though the play in the box takes so much away from the sport.
 
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I didn't expect this!

Spain did lose their first game four years ago, but this is a blowout!
 
traitor71 said:
This is the biggest ass whipping I have seen a defending champion take since, well, last night.
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Yep, largest loss by a defending world cup champion ever.
 
Bold Prediction: The Aussies come out of nowhere and win the whole thing and Cahill wins the golden boot! You heard it here first! Btw the Australia-Chile game is about to kickoff.
 
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UConnSwag11 said:
But it's cool when lebron does it? Or kemba and shabazz? It's selling the play to get the call. You do what you can to get the advantage. If it backfires then it's a no call or a yellow card. Yeah that flop fred took yesterday to get the pk was bad but he took a risk and got the call to put his team in the position to take the lead. Also when you watch anything in slow motion it looks awful. All soccer players I know are good at other sports. You take someone fr football or any other sport and watch them struggle playing soccer
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I would love it if they instituted video review of all penalties in the box (resulting in a PK) to determine if it was valid.

As someone recently said, it's like drawing a charge and then shooting a free throw worth 25 points in basketball.
 
intlzncster said:
I would love it if they instituted video review of all penalties in the box (resulting in a PK) to determine if it was valid.

As someone recently said, it's like drawing a charge and then shooting a free throw worth 25 points in basketball.
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im against replay, the reason soccer is great is because of the flow... for 45+ minutes each half it flows, no tv timeouts or anything of the sort... I think the refs need to work better together to figure it out you can't make any thing perfect, human error is part of the game... I do like that they give players yellow cards for diving now
 
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UConnSwag11 said:
im against replay, the reason soccer is great is because of the flow... for 45+ minutes each half it flows, no tv timeouts or anything of the sort... I think the refs need to work better together to figure it out you can't make any thing perfect, human error is part of the game... I do like that they give players yellow cards for diving now
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I agree that the flow is great in soccer, and I also agree that their should be some legitimate communication between the ref and line judges to try and get calls right like they do in other major sports-they get together in football, basketball, and hockey all the time....occasional disruptions in flow are needed to get calls right sometimes. I would happily give up some of the flow in soccer if it meant more legitimate reffing was taking place. Hockey does this frequently and they still maintain great game flow.

The problem in my view with the way soccer currently plays out is that an OBSCENE amount of calls are blown, and dives are rewarded, because they need another referee on the field so the ONE ref isn't always like 30 yards behind the action that he needs to be seeing to make the right calls (and NON-calls) at the right time. For purists that don't like replay, I think adding a 2nd ref should be a "tolerable" compromise...the fact that goals/non-goals over the goal line are missed, and ridiculously bad dives are rewarded is a reflection of the fact that too much is asked of the one ref on the field. AT LEAST get some real discussions with line judges for a little help on calls that the ref simply is out of position to make.

Soccer does itself a huge disservice with trying to officiate that much field with one whistle. I get the whole "remove the officiating from the game" concept, but it is too much of a good thing.
 
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One of the best goals I've ever seen. Especially appreciate the line for offisides at the time the ball was kicked. The Spanish defender definitely fell asleep because he was beaten by about 8 feet in 1 second. Great game if you are a Dutch fan!
 
Fishy said:
The flopping is ridiculous.

No one in the history of the world has fallen down while throwing the arms in the air and their legs straight out behind them. They all become ethnic versions of Greg Paulus out there.
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It's also easy to fix if FIFA cared. If the training staff has to come out to treat you, you have to go off the field for two minutes for them to check you out. If you have to be carried off on a stretcher, you have to stay on the sidelines for 10 minutes while the medical staff does a thorough evaluation. Or you can be subbed for.
 
The one thing I'd like to see is that a goal be certified by the booth, at the very least for offsides. They get the replay with the offsides line ready so quickly, they could check it by the time the celebration is done. That would also allow the linesmen to be conservative with the flag - giving the benefit of doubt to playing on. It can be so difficult to judge with all the moving parts as to whether someone has a shoulder in front of someone else at the exact moment the ball is played, and knowing that you have the video review would make it less of a life and death decision to keep the flag down.

Fouls are judgment calls are tough to go to a booth for - the NFL and NBA don't even do that. Perhaps you could also wave off a goal in the booth for a hand ball if it's contested, but even that could take a few different angles if it is inconclusive and slow the game's flow down a bit.
 
I know some Dutchmen here in the states who needed some orange to remind them of home. So they went to Hooters for the ambiance and color coordination.
 
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Only in soccer can you sit there for 3 hours to see a 0-0 tie and people claim it was a great game. To attract the american viewer they will need to make some changes to the off side rule and possibly make the field smaller... game is just too boring compared to the 4 major sports here. Its a joke the people in the us dont even watch the games but claim to root for the country their great grandfather was from instead of their own country.
 
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UcannUconn said:
Only in soccer can you sit there for 3 hours to see a 0-0 tie and people claim it was a great game. To attract the american viewer they will need to make some changes to the off side rule and possibly make the field smaller... game is just too boring compared to the 4 major sports here.
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Which game finished 0-0?
 
Chin Diesel said:
I know some Dutchmen here in the states who needed some orange to remind them of home. So they went to Hooters for the ambiance and color coordination.
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Speaking of Hooters, did you catch the (male) Orange fan in the stands wearing the enormous fake (I assume) breasts under his shirts for some reason? He made the crowds shots a couple of times.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
im against replay, the reason soccer is great is because of the flow... for 45+ minutes each half it flows, no tv timeouts or anything of the sort... I think the refs need to work better together to figure it out you can't make any thing perfect, human error is part of the game... I do like that they give players yellow cards for diving now
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But the point is, the game stops for a while on a penalty shot anyway (and the replay is only in that specific instance). So just review it in the interim. It literally takes 1 minutes to review. The reality is that somehow, that Brazil penalty needs to be overruled.

I don't think in general, just on penalty shots. Goals are too critical in soccer. The refs have decided one game already and almost did another (mexico). With replay, I don't want dives or freekicks or cards or whatever reviewed, just penalty shots.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Which game finished 0-0?
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Ok 1-1 or 1-0 or 2-1 but theres tons of subjectivity on the goals wether they were offsides or there was a penalty etc. The games rules just plain suck. I will never watch the sport. Its a terrible spectator sport. I do respect the enthusiasm the fans in europe and south america have for their team though.
 
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