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August_West said:
nah, I hope you trip your filter and get in trouble.
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I have an office and my monitors face away from the door...plus, IT is outsourced on a per instance basis. I don't need 24 hour monitoring for QuickBooks.
 
mauconnfan said:
Wow Ex you're both? LOL so funny it's true though. HR is more prevalent than ever in a big company like where I am and when they seem to be involved in things now which they never were before, it scares the crap out of my sales guys. They aren't used to seeing them much and now have to meet with them a couple to few times a year especially those who get in accidents or get tickets more often than they should. Used to just let it go a while now on everything in detail too. LOL and Legal at our place, I made the mistake of asking them something directly once as I knew him but he turned my into my VP in the northeast basically saying "no more PEONS contacting me directly" haha - I know you're not like that though ;)
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HR suffers from the condition affecting many support functions -- the need to justify their existence to senior management. That's why you see so many HR structures with "business partners" now. There's a fine line to walk between effectively supporting the team (which requires us to know what's going on and what each function does) and stepping on the toes of management.

On the legal side, if you're only getting involved when there's an issue/problem, then you're not doing your job. The entire point of in-house legal is to be preventative (in the sense that you advise on risk, not that you say "you can't do that"). If you only address problems once they become problems, you're not doing anything an outside lawyer can't do. That means meeting with and advising employees at all levels.
 
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Excalibur said:
HR suffers from the condition affecting many support functions -- the need to justify their existence to senior management. That's why you see so many HR structures with "business partners" now. There's a fine line to walk between effectively supporting the team (which requires us to know what's going on and what each function does) and stepping on the toes of management.

On the legal side, if you're only getting involved when there's an issue/problem, then you're not doing your job. The entire point of in-house legal is to be preventative (in the sense that you advise on risk, not that you say "you can't do that"). If you only address problems once they become problems, you're not doing anything an outside lawyer can't do. That means meeting with and advising employees at all levels.
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Bingo on both but especially HR side of things. You're a lucky guy to wear both hats. ;)
 
Excalibur said:
How I feel when the marketing guy comes to me for "advice" but thinks he already knows the answer because he took a business law class as part of his MBA . . .
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Wow marketing, another "justify our existence" to sr mgmt area of our world. LOL, there are more irritations than I thought. Hell I'm guessing me and my sales team is the same to some of these functions though. LOL
 
Deepster said:
You have a computer? I thought you golfed for a living!
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Golf and drink right? Would be good, I do give it the best run I can mind you Deep;)

We playing this year or what? About time, will bring Barney and Rebel Yell.
 
mauconnfan said:
Golf and drink right? Would be good, I do give it the best run I can mind you Deep;)

We playing this year or what? About time, will bring Barney and Rebel Yell.
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Definitely. Let's lock something up soon and try for more than once.
 
Deepster said:
You have a computer? I thought you golfed for a living!
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He must be in sales. Bitches about everyone else, but never actually works. :)

Reminds me of another office nuisance:

The sales guy who posts his 100-mile weekday Ironman training rides to Facebook, flaunting to the world that he has an account that a drunk orangutan could sell to and only does 6 hours of actual work every week.
 
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Excalibur said:
He must be in sales. Bitches about everyone else, but never actually works. :)

Reminds me of another office nuisance:

The sales guy who posts his 100-mile weekday Ironman training rides to Facebook, flaunting to the world that he has an account that a drunk orangutan could sell to and only does 6 hours of actual work every week.
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Well, he's a sales guy....but a lot more of a drunken orangutan than he is someone doing Ironman rides.
 
Fishy said:
1) People who try to send conversations via text message resulting in a 27-beep barrage.

2) Employees. I've heard every excuse twice.
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To expand on #1...conversations via email are no better, especially when you are needlessly on cc. I have gotten up in the morning to 30 emails exchanged by people in China and Singapore, most of which are one line back and forth.
 
Excalibur said:
HR suffers from the condition affecting many support functions -- the need to justify their existence to senior management. That's why you see so many HR structures with "business partners" now. There's a fine line to walk between effectively supporting the team (which requires us to know what's going on and what each function does) and stepping on the toes of management.

On the legal side, if you're only getting involved when there's an issue/problem, then you're not doing your job. The entire point of in-house legal is to be preventative (in the sense that you advise on risk, not that you say "you can't do that"). If you only address problems once they become problems, you're not doing anything an outside lawyer can't do. That means meeting with and advising employees at all levels.
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In other words, the best run HR department is when most employees ask why HR exists. When things are running smoothly and compliance is the norm, HR is doing their job proactively.
 
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August_West said:
Lets be clear about a couple things here.

1) I can be a jerk. lol.
2) Unless you are in IT, IT is the bad guy at your company. Everyone hates us. Its a thankless job, which causes #1. We are blamed for everything on an end user level. Even if (and usually especially if) its a PEBKAC issue. And forget the end user level, we are cursed at the executive level too because the bean counters see IT as a necessary evil. We are a black hole. It costs money for us to run things right, but no one wants to pay for it because IT infrastructure doesnt generate revenue.
3) In regards to being the gatekeeper. Its my ass on the line. equipment" the question is "Why cant you keep the network secure" . The Department of Defense gets hacked. THe CIA gets hacked. But Im supposed to have DoD security on my IT budget?


Listen guys. The next time you walk by your IT guy, give him a hug. It's a brutal world.
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PREACH ON @August_West

From a fellow IT brother/Sys Admin.
 
Excalibur said:
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On the legal side, if you're only getting involved when there's an issue/problem, then you're not doing your job. The entire point of in-house legal is to be preventative (in the sense that you advise on risk, not that you say "you can't do that"). If you only address problems once they become problems, you're not doing anything an outside lawyer can't do. That means meeting with and advising employees at all levels.
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Agreed on that. My role also involves supporting the sales function and negotiating agreements, along with various compliance matters. We are actually a pretty well liked department, with a history of putting in significant effort to help close business. I understand that this isn't the case in every organization. Building trust is critical in driving proactive measures.
 
August_West said:
Lets be clear about a couple things here.

1) I can be a jerk. lol.
2) Unless you are in IT, IT is the bad guy at your company. Everyone hates us. Its a thankless job, which causes #1. We are blamed for everything on an end user level. Even if (and usually especially if) its a PEBKAC issue. And forget the end user level, we are cursed at the executive level too because the bean counters see IT as a necessary evil. We are a black hole. It costs money for us to run things right, but no one wants to pay for it because IT infrastructure doesnt generate revenue.
3) In regards to being the gatekeeper. Its my ass on the line. At the company I work at the unspoken policy is to give the end user enough internet access rope to hang themselves with. I dont spy on users, I dont provide internet history reports unsolicited (and only 2 have been solicited in the last 11 years). I dont care what you do. I am not your supervisor who is worried about worker productivity. Thats not my job. That is the respective department supervisors job. My job is to keep the networks flowing so we can do business. If something goes wrong there the whole company shuts. We cant take electronic orders, we can't ship the orders we have, we cant bill the customers we shipped to,employees cant get paid.. etc...etc.... Its a ton of pressure. So excuse me if I get pissed when someone opens an attachment while checking their home email on their work computer and introduces a virus to the network. And then the question from management isnt "Why did that user check his home email on work equipment" the question is "Why cant you keep the network secure" . The Department of Defense gets hacked. THe CIA gets hacked. But Im supposed to have DoD security on my IT budget?


Listen guys. The next time you walk by your IT guy, give him a hug. It's a brutal world.
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I've got two IT's with System and Net Admin experience. They left their jobs to within the company to join my training team. Took significant pay cuts just to rid themselves of the stress and BS. Both have been working with me for a year and are extremely happy.
 
So Chin et al., here is a new one from just today. I am on a conference call (I work from home) and I here this constant clicking. After several minutes of this I ask does anyone else hear that clicking? Pause, "Oh that was me - sorry" and the clicking stops. After about 30 seconds I start chuckling because I thought of this post and realized he was clipping his nails and you can hear it plain as day!
 
August_West said:
Lets be clear about a couple things here.

1) I can be a jerk. lol.
2) Unless you are in IT, IT is the bad guy at your company. Everyone hates us. Its a thankless job, which causes #1. We are blamed for everything on an end user level. Even if (and usually especially if) its a PEBKAC issue. And forget the end user level, we are cursed at the executive level too because the bean counters see IT as a necessary evil. We are a black hole. It costs money for us to run things right, but no one wants to pay for it because IT infrastructure doesnt generate revenue.
3) In regards to being the gatekeeper. Its my ass on the line. At the company I work at the unspoken policy is to give the end user enough internet access rope to hang themselves with. I dont spy on users, I dont provide internet history reports unsolicited (and only 2 have been solicited in the last 11 years). I dont care what you do. I am not your supervisor who is worried about worker productivity. Thats not my job. That is the respective department supervisors job. My job is to keep the networks flowing so we can do business. If something goes wrong there the whole company shuts. We cant take electronic orders, we can't ship the orders we have, we cant bill the customers we shipped to,employees cant get paid.. etc...etc.... Its a ton of pressure. So excuse me if I get pissed when someone opens an attachment while checking their home email on their work computer and introduces a virus to the network. And then the question from management isnt "Why did that user check his home email on work equipment" the question is "Why cant you keep the network secure" . The Department of Defense gets hacked. THe CIA gets hacked. But Im supposed to have DoD security on my IT budget?


Listen guys. The next time you walk by your IT guy, give him a hug. It's a brutal world.
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tl/dr
 
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Employees who camp out in the bathroom stall and fall asleep.
 
CTBasketball said:
Employees who camp out in the bathroom stall and fall asleep.
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Saw this happen at my last job, it was unbelievable. The first hour it was funny but the 2nd hour we thought the guy might have had a heart attack on the crapper. Nope, just snoozing...
 
As many of you were surprised to learn the other day, I teach at an elementary school. Naturally the staff is 94% women give or take. This has its advantages like when "crazy sock day" in spirit week becomes staff wearing leggings and knee socks day. However, everyday in lounge it is a new man bashing or feminist rant or whatever. Pulling up photos of shirtless dudes on their phones and ogling them. Lewd comments about students' dads. Just stuff that if it was reversed and it was a room of men and one woman they would never get away with. I know there is a big hypocritical comment in here but there is a difference between posting here and work place behavior.
 
polycom said:
When people bring in lunch that smells horrible and eating it at their desks. You know it smells terrible, I know it smells terrible just be a little respectful.

People who drown themselves in perfume or cologne like they are going to the bar.
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Sometimes there is a reason. I work at a company where we have to hotel in to desks so my neighbors rotate every day. If I have a particularly obnoxious neighbor, a strategically placed Indian food order is quite funny in addition to being delicious.
 
BoatShow said:
As many of you were surprised to learn the other day, I teach at an elementary school. Naturally the staff is 94% women give or take. This has its advantages like when "crazy sock day" in spirit week becomes staff wearing leggings and knee socks day. However, everyday in lounge it is a new man bashing or feminist rant or whatever. Pulling up photos of shirtless dudes on their phones and ogling them. Lewd comments about students' dads. Just stuff that if it was reversed and it was a room of men and one woman they would never get away with. I know there is a big hypocritical comment in here but there is a difference between posting here and work place behavior.
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Just imagine what they say about you when you aren't in the room.
 
BoatShow said:
As many of you were surprised to learn the other day, I teach at an elementary school. Naturally the staff is 94% women give or take. This has its advantages like when "crazy sock day" in spirit week becomes staff wearing leggings and knee socks day. However, everyday in lounge it is a new man bashing or feminist rant or whatever. Pulling up photos of shirtless dudes on their phones and ogling them. Lewd comments about students' dads. Just stuff that if it was reversed and it was a room of men and one woman they would never get away with. I know there is a big hypocritical comment in here but there is a difference between posting here and work place behavior.
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Alpha up man, if you're not married it sounds like you can have s smorgasbord thing happening. Lemons, Make lemonade and all that . Frickin millennials. :-)
 
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