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Looks like I have alot to catch up with in this thread

And to think... some on this board questioned why Ive used UNC for several years :rolleyes:



loneycafe said:
Not quite OT. UNC WBB were among the student-athletes in the no-show classes and who benefited from unauthorized grade changes. About 6 percent of the student-athletes in the classes were on the wbb team.

This particular story here is disturbing on many levels and directly ties to WBB http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/22/4255051/wainstein-report-says-jan-boxill.html

ETA that it appears Jan Boxill is one of the nine who was fired or disciplined today. She is no longer listed as director of Parr Center for Ethics.
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Ah... a wolfpacker... the enemy of my enemy is my friend ;)
 
loneycafe said:
Not quite OT. UNC WBB were among the student-athletes in the no-show classes and who benefited from unauthorized grade changes. About 6 percent of the student-athletes in the classes were on the wbb team.

This particular story here is disturbing on many levels and directly ties to WBB http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/22/4255051/wainstein-report-says-jan-boxill.html

ETA that it appears Jan Boxill is one of the nine who was fired or disciplined today. She is no longer listed as director of Parr Center for Ethics.
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Does this cast any shadow on DD's academic standing??
 
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I read the lead article in the student newspaper. I hope the slant in what was written isn't indicative of the overall reaction of the campus community, though I suspect it will be. Minimalist in tone as to what happened. Without saying so, largely implies the fault lies with a rogue professor and his assistant. Sad.
 
DeSaix said she hopes the University can move forward with as little negative response as possible.

Let's just move on.... Nothing to see here.:rolleyes:
 
MilliniumPrince said:
If they go with the whitewash, I could see a creative attorney and a few Alums threaten a class-action suit claiming the value of their degree has been degraded due to willful and purposeful fraud by the Administration. I don't have the expertise to determine if such a threat holds water legally...but I could see Alums from that time frame who took those courses (maybe honorably is some cases) raising hell over this.

I don't think the NCAA will do anything unless they have absolutely no choice, but I still think UNC is in deep trouble.
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I demand a new investigation to investigate the NCAA investigators' investigative incompetence.
 
cabbie191 said:
I read the lead article in the student newspaper. I hope the slant in what was written isn't indicative of the overall reaction of the campus community, though I suspect it will be. Minimalist in tone as to what happened. Without saying so, largely implies the fault lies with a rogue professor and his assistant. Sad.
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This has been huge news here....... The sports talk radio interrupted their programming to broadcast the press conference live.... so did the major NC statewide TV news station. Front page on the front of the Newspaper... Front page on the sports section..... Top of the broadcast on the 12pm, 4pm 5pm 6pm 10pm and 11pm news last night and today. I have 3 of the local TV stations apps on my phone.... lead story there.... got notifications on my phone about this........
 
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cabbie191 said:
I read the lead article in the student newspaper. I hope the slant in what was written isn't indicative of the overall reaction of the campus community, though I suspect it will be. Minimalist in tone as to what happened. Without saying so, largely implies the fault lies with a rogue professor and his assistant. Sad.
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This conspiracy features so many knuckleheads and such overwhelming evidence that Vinny Gambini couldn't beat the rap.
 
"Are they trying to say that there is parity between Duke and NC, or between NC and everyone else. I don't see how there could be parity when there have been 31oo students over 18 years and and other schools, like UConn have been penalized for...what's that? Not parity? Parody? Never mind.
 
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cabbie191 said:
I read the lead article in the student newspaper. I hope the slant in what was written isn't indicative of the overall reaction of the campus community, though I suspect it will be. Minimalist in tone as to what happened. Without saying so, largely implies the fault lies with a rogue professor and his assistant. Sad.
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Yeah... for 18 years. :eek:
 
Just read this - on the 2005 NCAA championship team 5 of the players had a total of 39 paper classes identified on their transcripts and of those five 4 were 'major contributors to the teams success'. That represents 8 classes each for those five players - not sure how many years they each spent at UNC but 8 classes represents one full year of courses or 25% of a four year education. And that represents only the classes they were definitely able to identify as 'bogus'.

Also read where Crowder admitted starting the classes specifically for athletes and for some AFAM students who were suffering from personal issue, but news of the classes spread in the fraternities and some of the sororities and their academic advisers started funnel students into the classes as well to the point she began to be overwhelm by the numbers. That is likely where most of the 52% non-athletic registrations comes from.
 
Even in the 70s fraternities were the super highways of information on gut or boat courses although courses were nothing compared the sham these were. Usually, we were sharing information between students with hugely demanding majors like pre med, physics, and such who needed a GED course with an easier work load to even out their schedule.
 
Regarding my comment on yesterday's topic... rankings of 2014-2015 Top Ten WBB teams...
<<I'd be a bit careful about listing North Carolina as a participant in any NCAA athletics until the late-breaking news stories and legal cases are resolved...>>
(Now including WBB...)


Quoted from Wainstein Report...
<<Just how widespread was this ring of corruption? Jan Boxill, a philosophy professor whose formal title is director of the Parr Center for Ethics, steered women’s basketball players to Crowder and literally named their grade. “Did you say a D will do?” Crowder wrote to Boxill in an e-mail about one player who had apparently recycled an old paper. “Yes, a D will be fine; that’s all she needs,” Boxill replied.>>
 
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elzorrogris said:
"Are they trying to say that there is parity between Duke and NC, or between NC and everyone else. I don't see how there could be parity when there have been 31oo students over 18 years and and other schools, like UConn have been penalized for...what's that? Not parity? Parody? Never mind.
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Thank you Mrs. Litella.
 
I have not read all the posts here, but super curious to see how the NCAA responds..... Wonder if they are going to wimp out and state that this is an academic issue and stand back from it..... I would hope that they slap UNC appropriately..... still fuming about the NCAA's targeting of CT men's academics retroactively, and glad when Shabazz spoke his mind at the tournament last year..... UNC with its carrying this sham for 2 decades largely in order to preserve eligibility for its athletes..... it should be severely punished, and many are watching
 
Bgillon said:
Didn't the UCONN men's basketball team get suspended from post season play for a couple of years due to poor academics? And the poor academics was not fraud but accurate reporting of performance in "real" classes. Someone else posted that UNC is the academic equivalent of banking's "too big to fail" scenario. Therefore it will be interesting to see how the NCAA handles this hot potato. Clearly neither UNC or the NCAA has been interested in getting to the truth. And as I posted earlier, ignorance is not an excuse for senior management of the athletic department, the teams, and the university. Lastly I would love to hear from the ACC regarding one of their prestige schools' actions!!!
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I doubt we'll hear anything from the ACC or the NCAA until it becomes obvious that they HAVE to say something or else appear to support UNC's actions. Until then nothing will be said- UNC is a huge cash cow for both and as we all know money talks.
 
As for UNC's neighbor schools gloating over this- be very careful. God only knows what might be hidden at your own school. Big money sports has a way of corrupting everything it touches. I never dreamed that UConn would ever get sanctioned the way it did. But it happened.
 
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