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Extremely high quality match. I have never seen Venus so consistent on all her ground strokes. Can she be better than she was in her younger years? I cant see Sloane winning if Venus is playing at this level and I think she must be counted as the favorite to win it all.
 
eebmg said:
Extremely high quality match. I have never seen Venus so consistent on all her ground strokes. Can she be better than she was in her younger years? I cant see Sloane winning if Venus is playing at this level and I think she must be counted as the favorite to win it all.
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It was remarkable tennis -- just superb stuff from both players. Better than a lot of finals I've seen!

Toward the end especially, this was the old Venus---hitting and serving with incredible pace, bite and precision. Finally had an ace ! These two were just crushing the ball. Scary good. And some wonderful droppers from PK.

There must have been 6-8 shots toward the very end that were within an inch or two of being in PK's favor , but they all seemed to stay on Venus's side of the line. This match really was on a knife's edge.

A privilege to watch!

P.S. Few things in the world of sport are as beautiful as Venus Williams's smile :)
 
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Petra is a most worthy foe, likely poised to add Major championships in her career. It was no mean feat to dispatch Garbine Muzuruza
in the previous round, and last night's match with Venus was one quality performance. She has a top-grade 2nd serve, superior to Venus', and her serving was there for her when she sat at 15-40 and twice at 0-40. Venus had 10 break points and only garnered 3. But 3 was enough to keep things even, as Petra managed 3 breaks also.
Whatever serving advantage Petra had was, unfortunately for her, undone by 45 unforced errors.
Other than the onslaught that is Irma, nothing gets my stomach in knots like Venus in a match she might lose. Think of being down a break in set 3. Ouch!
While I say Mazel Tov to Serena's motherhood, I'm glad she is not around to garner the chief attention in the Williams' exploits.
Mary Jo Fernandez called Venus the best athlete she's ever seen in Women's tennis, and she is my favorite athlete
Back in '98, I wonder how this 6' 1" marvel would have been as a wing on UConn's squad.
Next up is Venus vs. Sloan, while we watch to see, if Madison can break through tonight, and Coco at noon too.

No American men left, with Sam's loss.

Here's your schedule.

Schedule of Play | Day 10: Wednesday, September 6 Schedule | Official Site of the 2017 US Open Tennis Championships - A USTA Event
 
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JustinesGuy said:
This article might sum it up better than I can, coming from someone with more Capital in the sport than I have:


McEnroe: Williams Sisters Have Bad Attitude
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Whoa!! You lost me on this one. This article is 17 years old!!! They have evolved into American icons that are role models for so many young, aspiring athletes. Just ask CoCo, Maddie and Sloane...all of which have commented on them.
By the way, and you take a comment on attitude from McEnroe seriously?!!
 
Congrats to Miss Coco!! IF Madison can beat unseeded Kanepi, it will be 4 Americans in the semi finals - not sure if that has ever happened before. What an absolutely sensational performance by the US women. Congrats to all of them, regardless of what happens in Keys' match...

Ok on edit - apparently it happened in 1985 - Chris Evert vs. Kathy Rinaldi, and Zina Garrison vs. Martina Navratilova. All 4 Americans. But even more amazing was the quarter finals had 7 out of 8 Americans - including Barbara Potter, Molly Van Nostrand, and Pam Shriver. Molly was a qualifier and Barbara was unseeded. Shriver was #5. The lone non-American was Helena Sukova from the Czech Republic. She fell to Kathy Rinaldi in 3 sets...
 
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JustinesGuy said:
This article might sum it up better than I can, coming from someone with more Capital in the sport than I have:


McEnroe: Williams Sisters Have Bad Attitude
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Of all the people to complain about a person's bad attitude he should keep his mouth shut. He had one of the worse attitudes of any player, on and off the court. He did not like that they chose to make their own decisions about how and when they played and did not let other people decide how they should direct their career.
 
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JustinesGuy said:
This article might sum it up better than I can, coming from someone with more Capital in the sport than I have:


McEnroe: Williams Sisters Have Bad Attitude
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Hillarious that McEnroe would comment on "anyone's" bad attitude and his evidence was some musings about possibley playing against men?? His freakout is more evidence of him disrespecting the women's game than the other way around. :eek:

Anywhoo. Back to this incredible tournament and 3 of the possible 4 American woment are in the semifinal. I imagine there is now added pressure on Madison Keys not to be the odd man (or woman :rolleyes:) out of the final four especially since her opponent is probably the weakest of the bunch.
 
eebmg said:
Hillarious that McEnroe would comment on "anyone's" bad attitude and his evidence was some musings about possibley playing against men?? His freakout is more evidence of him disrespecting the women's game than the other way around. :eek:

Anywhoo. Back to this incredible tournament and 3 of the possible 4 American woment are in the semifinal. I imagine there is now added pressure on Madison Keys not to be the odd man (or woman :rolleyes:) out of the final four especially since her opponent is probably the weakest of the bunch.
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It's funny - he recently was asked about her playing against men recently - i think he said something along the lines of..."she would not be able to beat the lowest ranked player in the world" which at the time was some guy from Sri Lanka, or someplace, ranked like 300 or so. On THAT point, I generally agree with him. Serena is the GOAT for women's tennis, but comparing how she's do vs. men - who are generally stronger and faster, is a pointless exercise...

Having said that, I totally agree - his attitude on the court sucked back in the day, and occasionally he lapses back into his "bad boy" persona with idiotic commentary. That particular comment from 17 years ago is case in point.
 
So tomorrow is ladies day; well, more accurately ladies night. Venus and Sloane kick it off at 7,
Coco is set and we find out tonight who her opponent will be. Estonia refuses to be outdone by the Latvians.
Though unseeded, Kaia Kanepi finds herself in the quarters. Will it be she or Madison?
 
Federer loses. DelPotro played well, his forehand was great, his backhand steady and his serve was exceptional. Federer really played some poor shots on crucial points but otherwise, I think DelPotro won it more than Federer lost it. Was not impressed with Federer's post game presser where he basically says I played poorly, I did not prepare well and his mindset was just not right the entire tournament. To much woe is me and to little praise of the opponent imho. I would love to see DelPotro take it after all his wrist injuries robbed him and us of a potentially great career. Would be nice symmetry since in 2009, he also beat Federer and Nadal at the US Open.
 
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I just can't understand how anyone could not support Venus Williams ; especially in the twilight (?) of her career.

I think it's almost unfair that words of admiration are so much more appropriate for men; mensch, gentleman, can't think of a good one to describe her quasi-regal bearing (not right) ladylike (completely wrong)...you get the point.

She's a unique, positive, force for good in woman's sport, extending the previously understood chronological limit for superior performance while always the ideal competitor, equally gracious in victory or defeat. She overcame the limitations of her family's coaching both on and off the court; the chip on her shoulder at times noted in her early years being completely hidden now; a grown woman of many interests, seemingly completely at ease with her place in society And as noted by the three other notable semi-finalists of a later generation, she is the one they most look up to and emulate.

When one thinks of parallels, perhaps only one name comes up...Sue Bird.

Go Venus...beat up on the kids, one last time (gently, gently).
 
msf22b said:
I just can't understand how anyone could not support Venus Williams ; especially in the twilight (?) of her career.

I think it's almost unfair that words of admiration are so much more appropriate for men; mensch, gentleman, can't think of a good one to describe her quasi-regal bearing (not right) ladylike (completely wrong)...you get the point.

She's a unique, positive, force for good in woman's sport, extending the previously understood chronological limit for superior performance while always the ideal competitor, equally gracious in victory or defeat. She overcame the limitations of her family's coaching both on and off the court; the chip on her shoulder at times noted in her early years being completely hidden now; a grown woman of many interests, seemingly completely at ease with her place in society And as noted by the three other notable semi-finalists of a later generation, she is the one they most look up to and emulate.

When one thinks of parallels, perhaps only one name comes up...Sue Bird.

Go Venus...beat up on the kids, one last time (gently, gently).
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I agree. She deserves this run to cap off her career which has been in such a deep shadow of her sister. I want her to win but I think Madison (my pick over Coco) will since it just may mean too much for Venus
 
An excellent third set between Stephens and Williams; Power, precision. pressure; All on display. If Stephens duplicates tonight's effort Saturday, she will be hoisting the US Open crown.
 
VAUConnFan said:
An excellent third set between Stephens and Williams; Power, precision. pressure; All on display. If Stephens duplicates tonight's effort Saturday, she will be hoisting the US Open crown.
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One of the strangest games I have ever seen. First 2 sets, one played well and other played poorly but third set was
a treat when both played well. Sloane's defense is unbelievable. I have never seen anything like it. What is maddening is that she seems to have the ability to be offensive but she is content to be defensive, change speeds etc. I guess it is her style. On the plus side, I finally saw her go after it emotionally. She grew up tonight. Even so, the final is not guaranteed. A tough opponent will be on the other side.
 
VAUConnFan said:
An excellent third set between Stephens and Williams; Power, precision. pressure; All on display. If Stephens duplicates tonight's effort Saturday, she will be hoisting the US Open crown.
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I missed it...... I stepped out to pick up some fried chicken and potato wedges.... got back... and it was over.
 
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Well, that was a bludgeoning. Coco did not play poorly but Madison was on another level. Nothing Coco could do. I think she is the only real competition for Serena and I would say she is at least as talented as Serena. All she needed was confidence and I think she has it now. I think she will not only convincingly win this finals but will be a multiple grand slam winner. Hope that little hammy wrap is not an issue.
 
Madison Keys is going to win her first Major on Saturday. Don't think Sloane Stephens can hold up to the pressure that Madison will provide. I look for Madison to dominate Sloane like she did with Coco tonight.
 
I thought when Madison got three quick aces she would dominate the 1st set. Sure hasn't been that way Sloane is playing the more consistent tennis, while Madison is making unforced errors. Sloane up 4-2 in 1st set. Still early in the match. Madison has to get her nerves under control and get more aces if she is to win.
 
Sloane Stephens wins 1st set 6-3. She's playing flawless consistent tennis. Madison is taking riskier returns/shots and missing most of them. Madison has to play Sloane's game and concentrate on playing defense and stop taking as many chances with her shot. Madison is the better player, but so far not today.
 
Stephens 3 unforced errors in the match vs 24 for Madison. Madison is still attempting risky shots and missing them. Stephens is up 3-0 in 2nd set. Match almost looks over.
 
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