OT - Sterling Banned For Life and Receives a $2.5M Fine | Page 4 | The Boneyard

OT - Sterling Banned For Life and Receives a $2.5M Fine

Status
Not open for further replies.
Happy the NBA acted so quickly. I was actually pretty shocked at the severity of the consequence.

But I am also shocked at how hard it is for people to discuss bigotry. A couple posters don't even concede that Nelson is a bigot. I would ask if your private conversations sound like his. If yes, you too are a bigot. If no, then you should understand that his being tricked into his words becoming public is irrelevant.

Some feel he shouldn't be punished for his sick attitude because it is a personal opinion, not an action. I can understand this but I disagree given this situation. Our sports leagues are 1) not entirely private businesses. 2)There are individual owners but they are collectively in business in a league. 3) That league must support the 85% of their employees who are black 4) not doing so would cause a PR nightmare 5) it is morally right to respond.

Others are uncomfortable with the whole conversation and want it to go away
 
David 76 said:
Happy the NBA acted so quickly. I was actually pretty shocked at the severity of the consequence.

But I am also shocked at how hard it is for people to discuss bigotry. A couple posters don't even concede that Nelson is a bigot. I would ask if your private conversations sound like his. If yes, you too are a bigot. If no, then you should understand that his being tricked into his words becoming public is irrelevant.

Some feel he shouldn't be punished for his sick attitude because it is a personal opinion, not an action. I can understand this but I disagree given this situation. Our sports leagues are 1) not entirely private businesses. 2)There are individual owners but they are collectively in business in a league. 3) That league must support the 85% of their employees who are black 4) not doing so would cause a PR nightmare 5) it is morally right to respond.

Others are uncomfortable with the whole conversation and want it to go away
Expand ...
what're your thoughts on the jim irsay situation?
 
sledog said:
Among all the hype, I'm looking for real 'damage' here. Didn't notice that he was in any violation of contracts.
the players are protesting, but none are sitting out any games. Doc Rivers said that "if it were up to me", the fans should stay away from the games. But if he is so outraged, why doesn't he stay away from the games? Those $20M pay checks must outweigh any personal skin in this game.

Let's follow the other money.

The woman who spilled the beans is a case in herself. According to Yahoo News and curt papers, she changed her name from Perez to Stiviano in 2010 as she had not "yet been fully accepted because of my race."

She is being sued by Sterling's wife as Stiviano “engages in conduct designed to target, befriend, seduce and then entice, cajole, borrow from, cheat and/or receive as gifts transfers of wealth from wealthy older men.” The suit charges that Rochelle Sterling believed the $1.8 million duplex in which Stiviano now resides was being purchased in the Sterlings' names, and that Stiviano has received gifts including four cars (two Bentleys, one Ferrari, and one Range Rover) and about $240,000 in "living expenses." The allegation, then, is that Donald Sterling gave Stiviano about $2 million in community property without Rochelle Sterling's knowledge. Do I smell motivation??

What is startling is that, while no teams were for sale, Magic Johnson and his partners, Guigenheim Partners, have conveniently stepped forward to express interest in a team, and in 3 days, the NBA has decided to dump Sterling, creating just such an opportunity. Do I smell a bum's rush??

Oh, and Donald Trump agrees that Sterling was set up by a very bad girlfriend.

So how much did the Gugie team slip her???

Lastly, the race card bait. The ample PR being supplied frames the race issue. The guy probably said it, etc, etc. But with 30 years of apparent dismay and no action, why now? The race card pros have chimed in. Yesterday, Rush Limbaugh pointed to the hypocrisy of Jesse 'hymie town' Jackson (as he called him on his show) chiming in. Even the pres had time to ignore Bengazi to add his 2 cents. The $64 question is: did I miss comments by Al Sharpton - the premier shake-down artist?? In this environment, race sells, and everyone is talking about race, and therefor distracted from the . Bait and switch the narrative. Doug Henning would be pleased! Banned for life?

Follow the . But I wonder what he can get for the team?? Stay tuned to see how many bidders there are.

Sorry you are all looking at the babe in the bleachers while home plate was stolen.
Expand ...

Doc did a really good job when he was just keeping his mouth shut………I mean please? You took millions and millions of dollars from this man who you KNEW was a "racist" right, but because you had a chance to win right away with a very good foundation of team you disregarded the past shortcomings of this man to WIN at all costs………now a tape makes you throw him under the bus? Hypocrite at its finest I would say!
 
Not familiar. But wrong to an individual is dealt with differently (in court). Always wished Ray Lewis and others got booted.

But that is irrelevant. What Nelson did wasn't criminal. It was disgusting and more importantly to the NBA, it was bad for business.
 
mauconnfan said:
Doc did a really good job when he was just keeping his mouth shut………I mean please? You took millions and millions of dollars from this man who you KNEW was a "racist" right, but because you had a chance to win right away with a very good foundation of team you disregarded the past shortcomings of this man to WIN at all costs………now a tape makes you throw him under the bus? Hypocrite at its finest I would say!
Expand ...

So Nelson is the victim?

You don't know what Doc knew when. And he wouldn't be the first guy to keep working for a boss he learned was a j
 
.-.
UcannUconn said:
what're your thoughts on the jim irsay situation?
Expand ...

My thought is give me a guy who has a substance abuse problem over a guy who's a racist a hole when clean and sober any day of the week. The two aren't comparable.

If Sterling were the CEO of any major corporation, he would have been fired for this, and the NBA should fire him too.

I'm guessing most of those quibbling with the NBA action in this thread also complain about racial hypersensitivity as evidenced by affirmative action, etc. I want racial hypersensitivity to go away too. But you need to realize that it won't - and shouldn't - go away until people like you can recognize and condemn blatant racism and acknowledge that there should be consequences for it.
 
mauconnfan said:
http://time.com/79590/donald-sterling-kareem-abdul-jabbar-racism/

I can't imagine this but Kareem may have the most educated analysis of this whole circus……….
Expand ...

You shouldn't be surprised. Kareem might be a prickly SOB but one thing he's never been is stupid. It's a fair point: we freak out a hell of a lot more about someone saying racist things than we do over some fairly obvious instances of racism in practice that we ignore every day.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
You shouldn't be surprised. Kareem might be a ly SOB but one thing he's never been is stupid. It's a fair point: we freak out a hell of a lot more about someone saying racist things than we do over some fairly obvious instances of racism in practice that we ignore every day.
Expand ...

Agree…….
 
David 76 said:
So Nelson is the victim?

You don't know what Doc knew when. And he wouldn't be the first guy to keep working for a boss he learned was a j
Expand ...

Nelson? You mean Sterling or am I missing something here david? not busting balls just waking up………..

Anyway no Sterling is the , my point is he already knew that and accepted the position when he was still more than welcome in Boston where the team was not going to be too good for a while…….so Doc left real quick to take on an already built, star studded winner and knowingly playing for a rumored racist………please don't tell me he learned after? He should be quiet as hell on this is my point……….but since he's not he's a hypocrite, to me a huge one!
 
.-.
RyMaN600 said:
Oh, and this "it was all a setup engineered by Magic!" is pure nonsense. It turns out Sterling was fully aware that he was being recorded the entire time.

For the life of me I can't understand why so many people in this thread are desperate to defend this guy or make him out to be the ultimate victim in all of this.
Expand ...

Great point. I forgot that everyone in the world is either good or evil, and there is nothing in between. Thank you for reminding me. Now you can go back to watching Lord of the Rings.
 
RyMaN600 said:
Warriors Had the Blueprint For a Dramatic Boycott Ready to Go

It looks like Adam Silver's hand may have been forced a little bit. If Sterling was not banned for life and given the maximum fine, all of today's playoff teams were prepared to walk off the court at the opening tip.

That would have been an amazing thing to see.
Expand ...

There is no defending this guy for his beliefs, thoughts or anything and I don't see too many doing that. I didn't even know his history as I could care less but now I do know because this has been blown so out of proportion by so many. A racist said more racist things, wow what a story. Ban him, fine him and get on with everything.

The boycotts and protests are lame!
 
selles said:
My thought is give me a guy who has a substance abuse problem over a guy who's a racist a hole when clean and sober any day of the week. The two aren't comparable.

If Sterling were the CEO of any major corporation, he would have been fired for this, and the NBA should fire him too.

I'm guessing most of those quibbling with the NBA action in this thread also complain about racial hypersensitivity as evidenced by affirmative action, etc. I want racial hypersensitivity to go away too. But you need to realize that it won't - and shouldn't - go away until people like you can recognize and condemn blatant racism and acknowledge that there should be consequences for it.
Expand ...

Yes, because you know exactly how I think. I find it funny that now people are jumping to Irsay's defense (a woman is actually dead in that case) because I pointed out that this Sterling situation does set a precedent.

We have rule of law for a reason. It has been easy throughout history for people in control of the message to use the mob to destroy those who are not in control. Why is everyone who asks questions about what happened here automatically a racist? If Sterling is so evil, why stop with forcing the sale to someone that knew the woman? Why not just seize the team? Why not publicly stone him? Why not peel his skin off? Is there a law governing this?
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
You shouldn't be surprised. Kareem might be a ly SOB but one thing he's never been is stupid. It's a fair point: we freak out a hell of a lot more about someone saying racist things than we do over some fairly obvious instances of racism in practice that we ignore every day.
Expand ...

This is the exact argument I'm making and I'm getting tarred and feathered on the BY.
 
It's not like normal non-NBA fans knew about the lawsuits and had deemed Sterling's actions good and appropriate. The people asking why we weren't all upset about the lawsuits seem to be implying that we knew about them.
 
Leebo said:
It's not like normal non-NBA fans knew about the lawsuits and had deemed Sterling's actions good and appropriate. The people asking why we weren't all upset about the lawsuits seem to be implying that we knew about them.
Expand ...

Right. So the media tells you to dance, and you all dance like puppets.

Housing discrimination, no problem.

Sticks and stones, OH THE OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!
 
.-.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,320
Messages
4,563,326
Members
10,459
Latest member
SeanElAmin


Top Bottom