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navery12 said:
Well the pity party for the Pats couldn't even last a full 24 hours

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profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Bill Belichick says he has nothing to do with taping at Bengals game

Patriots coach Bill Belichick says he was not involved in the issue that arose on Sunday when a Bengals employee reported to NFL Security that a Patriots employee appeared to be filming the Bengals' coaches.
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Diana Russini might want to ask herself what are the green dots on the back of the helmet of the middle linebackers? The answer to that question will educate her when it comes to her inane tweets.
 
upstater said:
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Bill Belichick says he has nothing to do with taping at Bengals game

Patriots coach Bill Belichick says he was not involved in the issue that arose on Sunday when a Bengals employee reported to NFL Security that a Patriots employee appeared to be filming the Bengals' coaches.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Diana Russini might want to ask herself what are the green dots on the back of the helmet of the middle linebackers? The answer to that question will educate her when it comes to her inane tweets.
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She has a response to you.

 
upstater said:
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Bill Belichick says he has nothing to do with taping at Bengals game

Patriots coach Bill Belichick says he was not involved in the issue that arose on Sunday when a Bengals employee reported to NFL Security that a Patriots employee appeared to be filming the Bengals' coaches.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Diana Russini might want to ask herself what are the green dots on the back of the helmet of the middle linebackers? The answer to that question will educate her when it comes to her inane tweets.
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Yeah this is a response of a completely innocent man.

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upstater said:
It's like it's the first time you ever watched a football game.

The chains are on the other side of the field. The markers on the other side don't correlate exactly and they're often moved after the fact. A chain link is pinned at the spot of the ball. Amazing. And the same poster that put that up showed that the refs are in cahoots with the Patriots because Brady asked for a reset of the 25 second clock, and they did it on command!!
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The 1st and 10 starts at the 15 yard line. They gain 4 yards and it is 2nd and 6 at the 11 yard line. The first down marker is then moved to the 4 yard line making it 2nd and 7. The ball was never moved up a yard.

So when did first downs become 1st and 11 rather than 1st and 10
 
navery12 said:
Yeah this is a response of a completely innocent man.
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methodology said:
Shh.Let upstater believe the Patriots are and always will be innocent and the entire world is out to get them
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Diana Russini 'sources' lol. I think I'll go with Schefty on this. Media will play it out for all the clicks they can tho

 
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intlzncster said:
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Sure, that's the official line. And they really could be filming the scout for 'Do Your Job.'

And also filming the Bengals' sideline signals. If you were going to cheat and be smart, that's how you'd do it.
 
auror said:
Sure, that's the official line. And they really could be filming the scout for 'Do Your Job.'
And also filming the Bengals' sideline signals. If you were going to cheat and be smart, that's how you'd do it.
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Why would they bother?
 
auror said:
I assume they do it for a lot of teams and the Bengals are just the ones to catch them.
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Why would you assume that? Totally different era with no electronic communication, HD TV, no awareness by teams etc. Teams operate totally different in 2019. They take extreme care. Vast majority is electronic anyway.

If, as you say, they were doing it to a lot of teams...and no one else could catch them, I'll assume the entire NFL is full of complete and total buffoons. Like beyond incompetent.

And if the cameramen did this, I'll honestly laugh. But I don't think he did.

EDIT: I just can't stop chuckling. Pats have a film crew in Cleveland. They clear it with the Browns ahead of time. The Browns know where, when and how they are filming. And THEN they decide to tape the sideline? lmao

All I know is that this is great news for Pats fans. A little controversy always sets this team in the right direction. Feelin good Lewis!
 
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Vuce said:
Pats are still likely going to be 13-3, get a bye and host at least one playoff game. I guess that is panic time?!
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Season in the dumper. Wait til next year.
 
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jayteeman said:
Ummm.....they didn't have to convert....they had a touchdown....and then they didn't. And then they had to rush on the field after it wasn't a touchdown. What's your point?
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Oh well.
 
I haven’t read much of this thread, but are we all ignoring the missed block in the back on the Harry play that would have nullified said play anyway?

y’all were lucky to get first and goal at the 3.
 
methodology said:
The 1st and 10 starts at the 15 yard line. They gain 4 yards and it is 2nd and 6 at the 11 yard line. The first down marker is then moved to the 4 yard line making it 2nd and 7. The ball was never moved up a yard.

So when did first downs become 1st and 11 rather than 1st and 10
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That's not the official marker!

The official one is on the other side of the field. They adjust these things after the chains are set.

The chains determine where the ball is set after a 1st down.

The chains are 10 yards long. They don't grow during the play.

You're seeing a TV line by someone using a telestrator and the unofficial opposite field marker. In fact, the center always pull the ball back a foot when he hikes it, so the actual 1st and 10 would have been the 14 yard line, and not the 15.

This is the craziest thing ever now...
 
auror said:
I assume they do it for a lot of teams and the Bengals are just the ones to catch them.

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And yet no one bothers to even think of the fact that playcalls come through the helmet mics, and not through hand signals.
 
auror said:
Sure, that's the official line. And they really could be filming the scout for 'Do Your Job.'

And also filming the Bengals' sideline signals. If you were going to cheat and be smart, that's how you'd do it.
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Film them for what? There are no hand signals!
 
auror said:
She has a response to you.

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She has been all over the place. You know there's this twitter thing that keeps a record. She backed off when she was corrected. She's trying to create stuff now to explain her earlier stupidity.
 
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upstater said:
That's not the official marker!

The official one is on the other side of the field. They adjust these things after the chains are set.

The chains determine where the ball is set after a 1st down.

The chains are 10 yards long. They don't grow during the play.

You're seeing a TV line by someone using a telestrator and the unofficial opposite field marker. In fact, the center always pull the ball back a foot when he hikes it, so the actual 1st and 10 would have been the 14 yard line, and not the 15.

This is the craziest thing ever now...
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If the center pulls it back it's at the 16 not the 15.

I see simple math isn't your forte. 1st and 10 was snapped at the 15. That makes the 1st down marker at the 5
 
methodology said:
If the center pulls it back it's at the 16 not the 15.

I see simple math isn't your forte. 1st and 10 was snapped at the 15. That makes the 1st down marker at the 5
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Aye yaye yaye.

The center already pulled it back.

He is further back than the chains after he pulls it back. So if he's at the 14 1/2 (where it appears he is) the first down happened at the 14.
 
Forget all the controversy, Pats were 9-5 last year and won the Suprebowl, these distractions for everyone else and not them. The adjustments will be made and they will win.
 
methodology said:
But upstater and such said they didn't and have never done anything wrong. They had permission
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OK, so the contracted

camera crew violated a rule.

To what effect?

You think this video series was a hoax concocted by them all year in order to:

1. Cheat on the Bengals. Not the Eagles, or Texans, or Ravens, or Chiefs. But the Bengals. All year long they've been paying this crew for that one shot when they'd follow the advance scout into the booth.
2. To steal what from the Bengals? In an era without hand signals?
3. When the Patriots film crew is actually in the film booth behind the uprights filming the hole thing legally and to their heart's content.
 
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upstater said:
OK, so the contracted

camera crew violated a rule.

To what effect?

You think this video series was a hoax concocted by them all year in order to:

1. Cheat on the Bengals. Not the Eagles, or Texans, or Ravens, or Chiefs. But the Bengals. All year long they've been paying this crew for that one shot when they'd follow the advance scout into the booth.
2. To steal what from the Bengals? In an era without hand signals?
3. When the Patriots film crew is actually in the film booth behind the uprights filming the hole thing legally and to their heart's content.
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Ever hear the story of the scorpion and the frog? It's just in their nature to cheat.
 
superjohn said:
You knew it was coming...but the Bengals suck why would they cheat to beat the Bengals???

They cheat against everyone, same as the Stros.
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If that's true, then there's evidence a mile long of teams giving these guys credentials so they can film the 9 hour long movie, "Life of an Advanced Scout."
 
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