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OT: Notre Dame to ACC...then UCONN?

The ACC's only hope of ND joining as a full football member would be if NBC decides not to renew their contract (which runs through 2025). Nothing's happening for quite some time.
 
I listened to the Tim Brando interview from the Louisville station where he mentioned there have been talks. He didnt say anything was imminent, just there had been talks in the past. It seemed like he was speaking on behalf of how Brian Kelly and the coaching staff feels about how being an independent with the unbalanced schedule hurts their chances of getting into the playoff.
 
Ts5034 said:
I listened to the Tim Brando interview from the Louisville station where he mentioned there have been talks. He didnt say anything was imminent, just there had been talks in the past. It seemed like he was speaking on behalf of how Brian Kelly and the coaching staff feels about how being an independent with the unbalanced schedule hurts their chances of getting into the playoff.
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Discussion about 17:30 +/- mark: LSL Podcast: Fox Sports’ Tim Brando
 
Ts5034 said:
I listened to the Tim Brando interview from the Louisville station where he mentioned there have been talks. He didnt say anything was imminent, just there had been talks in the past. It seemed like he was speaking on behalf of how Brian Kelly and the coaching staff feels about how being an independent with the unbalanced schedule hurts their chances of getting into the playoff.
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While part of the discussion, that's underselling it a bit. He refers to the sources behind these discussions as "a number of people, I can't name them, at Notre Dame." I've heard Brando mention over the last year that Brian Kelly has complained to him about scheduling issues; given that he's saying this piece now about discussions between ACC/ND, it leads me to believe he's talking administrators of the university and not just those in Brian Kelly's circle.
 
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It may actually be the only way for ESPN to salvage this commitment to a linear ACC Network. Overpay for ND to join full time and bring in UConn for the NYC dma. If what I read is true, they promised too much to just go digital and once again find themselves in no mans land.
 
Maybe if ESPN/ACC allow NBC to keep NDs tv rights, otherwise I don't think any chance this happens.
 
I will not believe this is happening until the ball actually tips in our first ACC game.
 
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Austin316 said:
Here’s what the ACC’s extended football agreement with Notre Dame means

The only way I see us having a chance is if the CFP landscape changes... that's it. I actually don't mind being in the American. I think we just need to create our own history. I wouldn't be surprised if we see big12 collapse in 10-15 years or a huge merger. Long story short - get cozy in ur seat.
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Whenever Texas leaves is the end of the B12 IMO. When can they jump? Circle that date in red marker.

They'll take probably the oklahomas and another public Texas school with them.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Apparently they're talking about it right now, if you can believe the tweets.
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Brando said there were "conversations" about it, which is miles away from being "in talks" or negotiations.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
The ACC's only hope of ND joining as a full football member would be if NBC decides not to renew their contract (which runs through 2025). Nothing's happening for quite some time.
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If their avenue to playoffs has to go through a conference, then they might fully join one. As long as there is another way they stay as is.
 
JeepCSC said:
Less options this time. I'd imagine Cincy would be the main alternative and Tobacco Road would still back you. You'd just need to convince the football guys that you are better, and it probably wouldn't matter what BC or Syracuse thought.
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It's going to be tough to convince anybody we're better in football unless and until we start winning some games. We were better than Cincy last season, at least head to head.
 
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Listened to the Louisville podcast and heard what Brando had to say about schedulling games and it makes sense. He also mentioned that if Kelly has another bad season and is on the hot seat he will be more public about the need to join a new conference.
 
We need to help make the AAC better, we haven't pulled our weight in the last three years. If we can do that, or when we do that, everything else and everybody else will improve
 
Ts5034 said:
I listened to the Tim Brando interview from the Louisville station where he mentioned there have been talks. He didnt say anything was imminent, just there had been talks in the past. It seemed like he was speaking on behalf of how Brian Kelly and the coaching staff feels about how being an independent with the unbalanced schedule hurts their chances of getting into the playoff.
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I "have talks" every day with myself about dropping 40 pounds and not drinking so much.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Flipper isn't there. Fr. Leahy is gone too I believe. My hunch is that BC realizes the lack of interest their fans have without a local rival and would support UConn.
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Only hope is the ACC says to BC reps "you're lucky you'r even in the league, shut up you get no vote anyway, if you speak UConn will automatically take your place."
 
BC will be a "no" on UConn...today, tomorrow, and forever. I am as jaded toward UConn as anyone and even I can't come up with a delusional argument that BC will suddenly become UConn's advocate.

That said, BC's "no" is just one vote and, to be honest, it is the least important vote in the ACC. BC has not carried its weight and has failed to deliver the NE as it once promised it would do. BC can't argue they want be New England's team in the ACC while floundering in winning, ratings and athletic infrastructure improvement. In fact, in arguing against UConn, BC will only highlights its own failures and the critical void the ACC has in the New York to Boston corridor.

UConn should be more concerned about the ACC football powers. FSU, Clemson, Miami and Louisville are a very, very influential block and have far greater control than their 4 votes. Sadly, timing is not good for UConn since clearly our football program hit absolute rock bottom last year. Our best hope should the ACC look to add now is that the recent football success of Clemson and FSU and the rising football profiles of Louisville and Miami make a "pure football add" less of a priority than it was in 2012.

Personally I hope the immediate ND speculation is nonsense. UConn is not optimally situation to take the ACC admission test right now. A couple of years of +.500 football seasons would really help our candidacy.
 
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dwalks93 said:
BC will be a "no" on UConn...today, tomorrow, and forever. I am as jaded toward UConn as anyone and even I can't come up with a delusional argument that BC will suddenly become UConn's advocate.

That said, BC's "no" is just one vote and, to be honest, it is the least important vote in the ACC. BC has not carried its weight and has failed to deliver the NE as it once promised it would do. BC can't argue they want be New England's team in the ACC while floundering in winning, ratings and athletic infrastructure improvement. In fact, in arguing against UConn, BC will only highlights its own failures and the critical void the ACC has in the New York to Boston corridor.

UConn should be more concerned about the ACC football powers. FSU, Clemson, Miami and Louisville are a very, very influential block and have far greater control than their 4 votes. Sadly, timing is not good for UConn since clearly our football program hit absolute rock bottom last year. Our best hope should the ACC look to add now is that the recent football success of Clemson and FSU and the rising football profiles of Louisville and Miami make a "pure football add" less of a priority than it was in 2012.

Personally I hope the immediate ND speculation is nonsense. UConn is not optimally situation to take the ACC admission test right now. A couple of years of +.500 football seasons would really help our candidacy.
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Louisville doesn't have a credible vote until the academic scandal is behind them. Influential they are not, at least right now. I would worry about FSU and where they sit on a UCONN invite. BC will not say no, this time around. That "no" a few years ago was totally Flipper and Leahy, who both hated Uconn, it's clear that both were wrong then at lobbying to keep UCONN out. With Flipper it was personal for other reasons. Both are now thankfully gone. No way would we be playing them in Football this fall if both were still there. I am hopefully optimistic that UConn goes better than 500 this fall and maybe even beats BC in Fenway, Kevin Ollie rights the ship, and Geno wins his 12th title.
 
CL82 said:
Okay now I am in full on stalk mode, he left AOL and has joined Contee Nast. Never heard of them, me either but they self describe as
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Interesting.
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Condé naste is famous dude.
 
intlzncster said:
Condé naste is famous dude.
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Who knew?
 
dwalks93 said:
BC will be a "no" on UConn...today, tomorrow, and forever. I am as jaded toward UConn as anyone and even I can't come up with a delusional argument that BC will suddenly become UConn's advocate.

That said, BC's "no" is just one vote and, to be honest, it is the least important vote in the ACC. BC has not carried its weight and has failed to deliver the NE as it once promised it would do. BC can't argue they want be New England's team in the ACC while floundering in winning, ratings and athletic infrastructure improvement. In fact, in arguing against UConn, BC will only highlights its own failures and the critical void the ACC has in the New York to Boston corridor.

UConn should be more concerned about the ACC football powers. FSU, Clemson, Miami and Louisville are a very, very influential block and have far greater control than their 4 votes. Sadly, timing is not good for UConn since clearly our football program hit absolute rock bottom last year. Our best hope should the ACC look to add now is that the recent football success of Clemson and FSU and the rising football profiles of Louisville and Miami make a "pure football add" less of a priority than it was in 2012.

Personally I hope the immediate ND speculation is nonsense. UConn is not optimally situation to take the ACC admission test right now. A couple of years of +.500 football seasons would really help our candidacy.
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FSU was worried about football quality because the ACC had recently gone 2-13 in BCS bowl games. Now they're going to be primarily concerned about revenue -- can they compete with Florida? -- and the success of their new linear network. If ESPN tells them UConn brings the biggest number of cable subscribers and the biggest revenue gain, they'll be for UConn.

BC and FSU had their say the last few times and they got schools, Cuse and Louisville, heading into probation. I don't think Tobacco Road is going to lay down for them on the next add, and I don't think they'll see BC's local rivalry concerns as worth respecting given that BC is not going to deliver New England for the ACC Network and fear of local neighbors will seem ridiculous given the value UNC, Duke, NC State, and Wake have gotten out of having intense local rivalries.
 
I do not disagree with your assessment above...I think it is historically and factually correct and a very solid analysis. If the biggest decision point is money then UConn is the only candidate (after ND) that truly owns its market in a region the ACC is trying to occupy.

However, I've learned trying to predict the thought process for how a conference will add members is like trying to predict which sperm cell will fertilize an egg. Every round of alignment seems different and it is always a blend of concrete facts (money, athletic department, academics, TV markets) and emotion ("teams I want my school to play in football" and "I'm tired of those fancy NC basketball schools telling us what to do.")

I agree the ACC football schools made the call on the last rounds of ACC alignment. I am just not convinced they are willing to give the reigns back to tobacco road....That said, I hope you are right and it is about the ACCN and revenue.
 
I think the biggest thing UConn has going for them is that I can't imagine Cincy has enough passion from the football wing for them to go to bat over the inevitable Tobacco Road objections. Of course the ACC's basketball dominance may diminish the desire for UConn, who knows. I'm sure ND will want some input as well. But outside the "go for broke, swing for fences" grab of Texas or something, in a pool of Cincy, West Virginia, and the like, UConn should be well situated. But then I thought that before FSU issued an ultimatum on Louisville, so who knows anything.
 
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