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navery12 said:
Barkley is gonna bring back visions of rookie year Todd Gurley if he's a Giant. He'll get murdered behind that line
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You mean 2nd year Gurley? Rookie Gurley was a beast for most of the time he actually played.
 
navery12 said:
I didn't think they'd do it, but there's a semi-realistic scenario where it makes sense to draft Mayfield #1 if they really want Barkley.

This is assuming they have 2 QBs similarly rated at the top. And all hypothetical because who knows whether the public releases are accurate.

So you know the Browns like Darnold/Mayfield. You know the Jets are taking a QB at 3, Mayfield or Rosen. You know the Giants only like Darnold and Barkley.

Taking Darnold means the Giants take Barkley and the Jets take Rosen. Now you miss out on Barkley. But taking Mayfield now means you get Barkley at 4 because the Giants get Darnold and the Jets get Rosen
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God I hope the Jets draft Rosen.
 
That was the only smart pick. If Barkley was mediocre, okay move on, but damn.
 
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Both the Mayfield and Barkley were drafted too high IMO.
 
intlzncster said:
Might sound weird, but If you want your guy, you have to take a QB #1. And if you want the best QB, you take Mayfield imo. He completes more balls at all (short/medium/long) levels.

If he was 6'4 he'd be the runaway number 1 pick in the draft. I don't think his height will hurt him, a la Brees, Wilson. Not saying he'll be on their levels mind you.
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The Brees/Wilson comparisons are so tired. I'm not blaming you, it's all over the place. Brees is the most accurate passer ever and Mayfield isn't in Wilson's stratosphere as an athlete. Not even getting into the upstairs stuff.
 
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intlzncster said:
Might sound weird, but If you want your guy, you have to take a QB #1. And if you want the best QB, you take Mayfield imo. He completes more balls at all (short/medium/long) levels.

If he was 6'4 he'd be the runaway number 1 pick in the draft. I don't think his height will hurt him, a la Brees, Wilson. Not saying he'll be on their levels mind you.
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I know you are saying he's on their level
He doesn't compare to Wilson in athleticism - look at the comparatives, speed, hand size, jumping measures, etc. Wilson outclasses him everywhere but size and weight. Against good teams Mayfield couldn't shake the pursuing linemen.
As far as Brees is concerned - he is smarter and has an intangible - he's a leader. He doesn't pull the antics that Mayfield does
I'm not saying Mayfield is not good but he's not a 1st pick by any means
 
superjohn said:
The Brees/Wilson comparisons are so tired. I'm not blaming you, it's all over the place. Brees is the most accurate passer ever and Mayfield isn't in Wilson's stratosphere as an athlete. Not even getting into the upstairs stuff.
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My point was the height thing is way over played. There are a few ways to win as a short QB. Favre's only 1 inch taller. (no, not saying he's BF either)

I think the upstairs thing is over played too. Just a little bit of a wild man as a kid. Don't think he's going to have any trouble adjusting.

He's nothing like Manziel. He's a 'chip on his shoulder' kind of guy; overlooked, underrecruited type. Manziel was a silver spoon.
 
intlzncster said:
What's your rationale?
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A whole bunch of reasons. I don't like his arm strength, he lit up terrible Big 12 defenses, I think he needs to roll out a lot to really make things happen and I don't think he's much of an athlete. I also think he's a shmuck and has a great chance of blowing up when things go horribly in Cleveland, which they will. I'm actually shocked he was even considered a #1 pick.
 
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uconnphil2016 said:
Am I the only one who loves Baker Mayfield to the Browns? I hope he kills it
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It was kind of a weird draft to have the number 1 pick. Again, I think Baker's the best QB out there, but at the same time, I don't like this class at all. Most will be duds.

So he's probably picked too high, but I'd say that about any of the QBs (1 will probably turn out to be great...the rest, meh).

The right choice for the Brown's might have been to trade the pick.
 
I don’t get the opinion that his was somehow a weak QB draft . . .
 
KemBaller said:
You that worried about a guy who was super erratic at USC last year?
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No I wanted them to take Rosen because I think he's soft. Not a Jets fan.

It wasn't about Darnold.
 
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intlzncster said:
It was kind of a weird draft to have the number 1 pick. Again, I think Baker's the best QB out there, but at the same time, I don't like this class at all. Most will be duds.

So he's probably picked too high, but I'd say that about any of the QBs (1 will probably turn out to be great...the rest, meh).

The right choice for the Brown's might have been to trade the pick.
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They reached at both #1 and #4. Browns gonna Brown. They should have traded back.
 
nomar said:
I'm happy with the pick. I think Barkley's a stud.

All the QBs have warts. Heck, Lamar Jackson could be the best of the bunch.
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I'm trying to hold off on my hate for the pick until I see if they get Jackson or Rudolph. I'd love the draft if that happens
 
John Dorsey is in cleveland now right? I think they reached but young dbs can come in and contribute almost right away. Marcus peters in kc was a dorsey pick.
 
nomar said:
I'm happy with the pick. I think Barkley's a stud.

All the QBs have warts. Heck, Lamar Jackson could be the best of the bunch.
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Lamar Jackson has the best feet in the pocket out of any qb in the draft. I think he's going to be good
 
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