OT: Jay Wright/Knicks

[superjohn]

I don't disagree. However, like you said in a previous post, the money will be insane, he no longer has to recruit, and will always be a god at Villanova. Would JC be held in less regard here if he decided to leave for the Lakers? I have no idea what Jay Wright wants, but if coaching in the NBA is it, it won't get any better than this opportunity.

Yes, I think Calhoun would be held in less regard had he left. There is something about your coach being your coach and not sharing him with any other team/school. He would also have less hardware.

 

[superjohn]

With Zinger and Frenchise there are some really interesting building blocks.

But they also missed some opportunities to sell high on a guy like O'quinn (unless they plan on keeping him) and even Courtney Lee and start to add back some draft assets.

Your job security is tied to your GM's performance.

I'm still baffled that Orlando just fired Vogel after 2 years....what kind of record did they think they should have with that roster?

Orlando's roster is an abomination.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I can’t imagine Nova doesn’t plan to throw more money at Wright this offseason. They have to know the NBA will come calling, and even other college teams could potentially double his salary, if they really wanted too.

 

[RoderickSpode]

I'm always amazed that these brilliant, successful rich guys, who became successful and growing their empires by DELEGATING just cannot get out of their own ways and interfere with people far smarter than them (at this industry) and sabotage their franchises.

Is he really that brilliant? My understanding was that his father built the empire, and he’s more a product of nepotism/genetic lottery than any innate leadership ability.

 

[the Q]

Is he really that brilliant? My understanding was that his father built the empire, and he’s more a product of nepotism/genetic lottery than any innate leadership ability.

i was speaking in generalities, dolan isn't alone in this regard.

 

[the Q]

Orlando's roster is an abomination.

that's my point.

what could the owner/FO really have expected for a record?

 

[8893]

As a Knick fan in hibernation, I can't stress enough how bad a move this would be for Wright. The Knicks will never have a chance while Dolan is the owner. JD doesn't realize that he is the problem.

Shhhhh!

 

[Storrs South]

I can’t imagine Nova doesn’t plan to throw more money at Wright this offseason. They have to know the NBA will come calling, and even other college teams could potentially double his salary, if they really wanted too.

That's a good point as well.

Coach K is 71 -- he is also paid $8.9 million a year. Jay Wright is 56 and paid $2.5 million a year. If K retired in the next 5 years, it would be hard for Wright to turn that away as well.

I also just saw that Boeheim only makes $2.1 million year, which by current CBB standards is pretty low given stature and tenure but also commensurate with an inability to win more than one National Championship.

Nova is on an incredible run right now, but I don't think they have the kind of money to pay him market rate for his success to date.

 

[FartMan69]

Is there really that big of a risk? WORST case you get a huge raise, stink out loud because they're the Knicks than get let go and probably be a hot commodity in the college game where a program will let him name his price. Pitino and Cal wrote that book.

 

[Huskyforlife]

That's a good point as well.

Coach K is 71 -- he is also paid $8.9 million a year. Jay Wright is 56 and paid $2.5 million a year. If K retired in the next 5 years, it would be hard for Wright to turn that away as well.

I also just saw that Boeheim only makes $2.1 million year, which by current CBB standards is pretty low given stature and tenure but also commensurate with an inability to win more than one National Championship.

Nova is on an incredible run right now, but I don't think they have the kind of money to pay him market rate for his success to date.

Holy shizz we pay Dan more than Syracuse pays their HOF? Talk about a small time program... our fired HC was making almost a million more per year.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I think people make these decisions based on more factors than we're listing here. Certainly money is a big one, but he'll be wealthy in either case. How does he like Philly? Does he have kids? Where are they in school? How does he like Manhattan? Does he want to live there? (I wouldn't for any amount of money). How does his family feel about it? Does he have any indication on what Nova might pay to keep him? Is there some other team or place he'd rather be?

Looking at his background, he's from suburban Philly, and started under Rollie M. He has 3 kids. Might suggest he'd stay where he is.

 

[Walker11]

He is going to get a big pay raise from Nova and that will be the end of the story.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I think people make these decisions based on more factors than we're listing here. Certainly money is a big one, but he'll be wealthy in either case. How does he like Philly? Does he have kids? Where are they in school? How does he like Manhattan? Does he want to live there? (I wouldn't for any amount of money). How does his family feel about it? Does he have any indication on what Nova might pay to keep him? Is there some other team or place he'd rather be?

Looking at his background, he's from suburban Philly, and started under Rollie M. He has 3 kids. Might suggest he'd stay where he is.

You wouldn't live in Manhattan if someone handed you a check for a hundred billion dollars?

 

[HuskyHawk]

You wouldn't live in Manhattan if someone handed you a check for a hundred billion dollars?

How long would I have to stay? My more nuanced view is that I'd live in NYC for a year if I could then retire, live anywhere and never have to work again.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I still doubt he would turn down being the Knicks head coach for 5+ million, with basically 3 guaranteed years. He’d walk away with almost 15 million, NBA experience/connections, and would be able to hand pick his next college job.

 

[Walker11]

It's not Nova versus the Knicks. Wright would be the top candidate for any blue blood job and many will be opening in the next few years, and there are going to be a lot of NBA jobs opening up in the next few weeks, many of which are better than the Knicks job.

 

[FDNY99]

I can see NYK and Dolan starting in the $5-$7 mill/yr range if he is their first choice. If Nova has to match all of their NBE tv share $$ will go to pay Wright’s salary.

 

[CL82]

As a Knicks fan, this would make me happy.

I'm not sure if even Wright can help them. They are, after all, the Knicks.

 

[methodology]

I still doubt he would turn down being the Knicks head coach for 5+ million, with basically 3 guaranteed years. He’d walk away with almost 15 million, NBA experience/connections, and would be able to hand pick his next college job.

Maybe he already has his handpicked college job

You also have to take in taxes Philly vs NYC, cost of living, etc

According to bankrate.com cost of living calculator it is 90% more expensive to live in metro Manhattan vs metro Philly

If Jay Wright was making 2.5 in Philly he would have to make 4.75 in Manhattan to have the same lifestyle.

 

[Lefty2one]

I'm in the minority of Knicks fans on this but I want no part of Wright. I think he belongs at the college level.

 

[CL82]

I can’t imagine Nova doesn’t plan to throw more money at Wright this offseason. They have to know the NBA will come calling, and even other college teams could potentially double his salary, if they really wanted too.

Might be tough to do. I have to think that they are close to their capacity to pay. This is another example of the P5/G5 gap.

 

[Kenny11]

Wright takes the knicks job, Quinerly decommits and signs with us? One can dream!

He's jellyfam right?

 

[B1GEast]

Why would anyone want the Nnicks job is beyond me.

 

[Kembacity]

Why would anyone want the Nnicks job is beyond me.

I mean I think if I'm Kevin Ollie right now I take it no questions asked, no?

 

[Lefty2one]

Why would anyone want the Nnicks job is beyond me.

Don't be silly.

 

[methodology]

Why would anyone want the Nnicks job is beyond me.

Its a top 3 NBA job when things are good. Years ago max kellerman on his radio show said Knicks, when good, have the highest priced tickets of any sports team in NYC and they are the hardest ticket to get. Higher than the Yankees

Problem is they haven't been good since Ewing missed that layup

 

[RichZ]

You wouldn't live in Manhattan if someone handed you a check for a hundred billion dollars?

Can't speak for the OP, but personally, if I could make what jay is making now (or can be expected to make in coming seasons) I wouldn't even consider moving to manhattan. It's not like he's not able to live pretty large in his current situation.
You know how people say It's a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there? I avoid visiting it at all costs.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Can't speak for the OP, but personally, if I could make what jay is making now (or can be expected to make in coming seasons) I wouldn't even consider moving to manhattan. It's not like he's not able to live pretty large in his current situation.
You know how people say It's a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there? I avoid visiting it at all costs.

Different strokes.

 

[superjohn]

Its a top 3 NBA job when things are good. Years ago max kellerman on his radio show said Knicks, when good, have the highest priced tickets of any sports team in NYC and they are the hardest ticket to get. Higher than the Yankees

Problem is they haven't been good since Ewing missed that layup

NYC is first and foremost a basketball town.

 

[Samoo]

Maybe he already has his handpicked college job

You also have to take in taxes Philly vs NYC, cost of living, etc

According to bankrate.com cost of living calculator it is 90% more expensive to live in metro Manhattan vs metro Philly

If Jay Wright was making 2.5 in Philly he would have to make 4.75 in Manhattan to have the same lifestyle.

That's assuming he spends his entire 2.5 on living in Philly. More likely he spends about a million, which would mean he'd need an extra 900K in NYC for the same life style.