OT: Eddie Jordan Lies about Degree

[ruthetiger]

He had to find that.

 

[B1GEast]

don't feed the trolls

 

[upstater]

From what I've read, he didn't seem to lie about it. Rutgers reported he had a degree in his bio. Jordan admitted he did not have a degree. Rutgers targeted Jordan, rather than Jordan targeting him. If Rutgers had done their own internal homework prior to reaching out, they would have known this prior to targeting him.... but they did not. I highly doubt he filled out an application. He seems like a good guy who didn't bring this all upon himself.

There are 1000's of people who don't have degrees but spent numerous years in college, that are close to their degrees including numerous UConn players.

He would have had to fill out an application.

 

[CAHUSKY]

Really? Well try finding yours out over the past 30 years. Oh wait, why not the last 5? How about the last 2? No argument was lost top. Just simply stating the facts among some of you sour gripers (and it's not all but some of you)

Multiple national national titles in multiple sports. Too many to list. Go away.

 

[BoatShow]

1 freakin BCS game...Big deal, where you got undressed by Oklahoma! Where have you been since?

Where have you been since we were in a BCS game?

 

[BearJWS]

He would have had to fill out an application.

Yes, because colleges have numerous applications for: College Basketball Head Coaches on hand... Really.... They don't fill out applications for head coaches... this is not like applying for a job a Stop & Shop or McDonalds.... sorry!

 

[upstater]

It's also a rich talent base for other schools, and a member of the AAU (which was important).

Good football in NJ--on the other hand, the state is already well picked, especially by Penn State and a couple others. There's not much left in the end. I don't see the benefit. As for AAU, I'm obviously one of the people here who doesn't see the relevance or importance, and I know from internal debates that it was not even mentioned when Nebraska joined. In fact, Wisky and Michigan were hard at work tossing Nebraska from the AAU.

It may have fallen, but in other programs RU is still very strong. Some may never see what's going on, but within the near future, some things will change with some academic happenings going on at RU. Some folks don't see it because they don't have a connection with RU (ie you guys...which is expected), but we are not far from or dodging the criticisms of any (ie you guys)...you guys just don't kow!.

I happen to think Rutgers is a great school. I'm not knocking it. I'm only saying morale is low, and the people who left Rutgers after the state wars gave a very bad appraisal of what is going on. For the purposes of sports as we're discussing here, the academic qualities of both Rutgers and UConn are practically irrelevant.

It still doesn't add up to the weight of the rankings of the world universities in the world. USNWR is reputable...but where does it stack up against a more reputable formula against a larger pool? That's an even better question, answer and analysis.

USNWR is crap.

Just a question...but where does UCONN have a great TV market? I really don't know so explain it to me.

Hartford is ranked pretty high, about 30th nationally, but 1/3rd of the TVs in the state are in Fairfield Cty., which is part of the NYC DMA, and when you add those in, we're talking about a major market. The thing is, for cable purposes, DMAs don't matter. Cable is local obviously, and the state of Conn. is its own jurisdiction. Town by town. So, the number of TV cable households is what you should look at, and the state has over 1 million of them, which more than a good number. For the purposes of say college athletics cable networks, 1 million+ households devoted to a single team is a plum.

Just to add insult to injury with regards to 2 of the 3 schools (and you know who those 2 are) their football rep was slipping as the top conference mates were departing from the Big East in the early 2000's. It's no secret that when or maybe before Pasqualoni was fired, Sadexcuse was slipping in the worst way. Hell...we had started to beat them a little more consistently in that recent memory. PITT...well they kept making one bad mistake after another for years and years and years...and then some more years and a few days after that. It was made even worse when Wannstache was fired, then what's his face from UM (Oh), and then uggghhh...I can't even remember the musical chairs that was going on. But you get my drift.

UConn too slipped in the last 2 years. But what makes you think that these schools have a natural advantage over UConn? Syracuse, for instance, is in the hinterlands upstate. They used to raid the state of Connecticut for the likes of Dwight Freeney and Tebucky Jones. But those days are over, as Connecticut has been winning instate recruiting battles with Cuse. Heck, we took Tyvon Branch from Cuse's backyard and he just went to the Pro Bowl.

No disrespect, but SNY has no choice but to push UCONN in NYC. There's no one left in the conference, maybe with exception to Temple (and they're in another larger tv market).

I don't get what you're saying here. I'm referring to the past. I'm referring to what's taken place in the last few years IN the BE. Why is SNY bumping Cuse bball? Because the UConn ratings are higher. Bottom line. They are, check them out.
The women's team this year actually BUMPED a Syracuse bball Big East game head-to-head. In the state of Connecticut, basketball is actually the HIGHEST rated show not only on cable, but network as well.

 

[upstater]

Yes, because colleges have numerous applications for: College Basketball Head Coaches on hand... Really.... They don't fill out applications for head coaches... this is not like applying for a job a Stop & Shop or McDonalds.... sorry!

You are absolutely wrong.

If you think he didn't go through the same channels required by law for even the President of RU, you're wrong. He did. It's required for every single employee. He was a TOP hire according to RU's press people. This means de facto he went through the entire hiring process by the book, which required an application and the submission of his CV.

 

[BoatShow]

I was close to scrapping with Futgers fans when I visited their cesspool....I mean stadium in 2011. I will happily meet rutthebitch anywhere.

 

[WestHartHusk]

I'm pretty sure you will be fine. But for arguments sake, what conference do you think will com a knockin...in the near to distant future?

Honestly - this is the source of the agitation round here. We would desperately like to be in the B1G, but AAU is important (though probably not determinative), and a 16th team is nowhere in site (that we are aware of). Maybe the Big12 is forced to expand by Fox to have championship game, but even then it is not clear we would get the nod due to geography - the teams need to want some NE exposure and its not clear some teams from TX, IA, KS, OK care. It will probably be a Florida team +1. The ACC; that is unclear - they have an even number for football, but odd for bball although I'm not sure that matters - I think the only reason they expand is defensive to protect markets, and I have to image that is our best bet.

Regarding the TV market: Hartford / New Haven is the #30 market on its own, the largest without a professional sports team and is fully dedicated to UConn (our games outdraw even any network programming in the slot). Add to that what doesn't get counted: Fairfield-Bridgeport which is included in NYC (which adds about 800K) and Danbury (another 150K). Together this would put us in around a top 15 market if you added the state together. When you consider a regular season bball game will draw about a 6 rating, that is what we are talking about. Just for fun, Louisville (which has at least some UK fans has 670K homes and is #48; Syracuse is #84 at 375K).

 

[BoatShow]

It's so silly that Futgers rides it's "NYC connections." NYC is apathetic towards college sports and hates new jersery.

 

[BearJWS]

You are absolutely wrong.

If you think he didn't go through the same channels required by law for even the President of RU, you're wrong. He did. It's required for every single employee. He was a TOP hire according to RU's press people. This means de facto he went through the entire hiring process by the book, which required an application and the submission of his CV.

You are absolutely misguided... but that goes back to the time when you hatredly accused me of being a PC fan months back for saying anything about PC... but you can continue on your misguided tangents and bigotry hatred....

 

[upstater]

You are absolutely misguided... but that goes back to the time when you hatredly accused me of being a PC fan months back for saying anything about PC... but you can continue on your misguided tangents and bigotry hatred....

He was a Target of Opportunity hire. Rutgers even said so. Bigotry? Hatred? You're trying to turn this into a race thing? Seriously? You're easily one of the most pathetic posters here.

 

[BearJWS]

He was a Target of Opportunity hire. Rutgers even said so. Bigotry? Hatred? You're trying to turn this into a race thing? Seriously? You're easily one of the most pathetic posters here.

No, really... you are one of the MOST PATHETIC posters... you constantly berate posters on here unless they don't agree with you. You're just totally bitter & your past cannot escape you. Race has nothing to do with it here. I have no clue what race you are, but I applauded Rutger's hiring of Jordan. I'm not black, but Jordan was a great hire, he was very well qualified. Obviously, I did not know he didn't complete his degree there. Obviously, Rutgers would have known more so than ANYONE else if he had did. Stop being a bitter hater... get on with your bitter life.

 

[upstater]

No, really... you are one of the MOST PATHETIC posters... you constantly berate posters on here unless they don't agree with you. You're just totally bitter & your past cannot escape you. Race has nothing to do with it here. I have no clue what race you are, but I applauded Rutger's hiring of Jordan. I'm not black, but Jordan was a great hire, he was very well qualified. Obviously, I did not know he didn't complete his degree there. Obviously, Rutgers would have known more so than ANYONE else if he had did. Stop being a bitter hater... get on with your bitter life.

I suggest a psychotherapy session for you.

 

[BearJWS]

I suggest a psychotherapy session for you.

History lesson... go read the follow up to most of your bitter posts.... History of berating others. So much hate for one person, oh so sad... but keep on with your negativity tangents. Hope it makes you happy in your own little world. Maybe some day you will become less bitter, but that rarely changes, unfortunately....

 

[ruthetiger]

Quote="BoatShow, post: 599033, member: 3056"]I was close to scrapping with Futgers fans when I visited their cesspool....I mean stadium in 2011. I will happily meet rutthebitch anywhere.[/quote]

Ok. Not a problem. I'll be at the next RU/UCONN game this upcoming season. I'd love to see you there. If you can use your brains as much as your brawns, then fine. But don't write checks that a** can't cash!

 

[upstater]

I suspect lots of alcohol was imbibed by some today.

Apparently, in such a state, it's hard to understand words such as these: "I was told my classes were never recorded. I saw a transcript. I will have to find it. I was there and I completed the work."

Hard to believe that some are suckered into thinking a PR person somewhere botched this for Jordan and Rutgers. After reading these lines, this tells me everything I need to know.

 

[upstater]

History lesson... go read the follow up to most of your bitter posts.... History of berating others. So much hate for one person, oh so sad... but keep on with your negativity tangents. Hope it makes you happy in your own little world. Maybe some day you will become less bitter, but that rarely changes, unfortunately....

I do berate BCU fans and trolls and the like. There is nothing to apologize for. Are you a BCU troll?

 

[huskypantz]

Thank god Eddie wasn't interested in the assistant HC position, because THAT position requires a bachelor's degree.

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Rutgers University​

Job Details

Job Title ASST COACH
Position Number 13-001012
Posting Date 05/08/2013
Department Mens Basketball
Campus Livingston
Salary Grade Open
Retirement System ABP
Funding Non-State funded
Work Week Exempt
Job Description Under the direct supervision of the Head Coach of Men's Basketball, assists in the coordination of an intercollegiate athletic program. Assists in establishing and maintaining a nationally competitive, intercollegiate men's basketball team in the Big East and the NCAA. Recruits high-level academically and athletically skilled students to attend Rutgers and to participate on the men's basketball team. Assists in organizing and conducting practices and competitions at a high level of efficiency and success. Assists in developing, teaching, and instructing the student athletes in the proper rules of play, conditioning, skills and techniques on the basketball court and in life-skills and leadership qualities off the court. Assists in fundraising and public relations events that support the objective of the program and allow for program enhancements.
Job Requirements Requires a bachelor's degree and knowledge and understanding of Big East Conference and NCAA rules and regulations relative to recruiting and the proper rules of play in the sport of men’s basketball. Requires good organizational skills, ability to communicate with student athletes and the media, computer literacy, and possession and maintenance of a valid driver’s license. Requires an understanding of the technical knowledge of the sport of men’s basketball with the ability to help develop the student athletes to their full potential.

http://uhrapps.rutgers.edu/jobs/JobDetail.aspx?pst_num=13-001012

 

[specialisthusky]

Thank god Eddie wasn't interested in the assistant HC position, because THAT position requires a bachelor's degree.

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Rutgers University​

Job Details

Job Title ASST COACH
Position Number 13-001012
Posting Date 05/08/2013
Department Mens Basketball
Campus Livingston
Salary Grade Open
Retirement System ABP
Funding Non-State funded
Work Week Exempt
Job Description Under the direct supervision of the Head Coach of Men's Basketball, assists in the coordination of an intercollegiate athletic program. Assists in establishing and maintaining a nationally competitive, intercollegiate men's basketball team in the Big East and the NCAA. Recruits high-level academically and athletically skilled students to attend Rutgers and to participate on the men's basketball team. Assists in organizing and conducting practices and competitions at a high level of efficiency and success. Assists in developing, teaching, and instructing the student athletes in the proper rules of play, conditioning, skills and techniques on the basketball court and in life-skills and leadership qualities off the court. Assists in fundraising and public relations events that support the objective of the program and allow for program enhancements.
Job Requirements Requires a bachelor's degree and knowledge and understanding of Big East Conference and NCAA rules and regulations relative to recruiting and the proper rules of play in the sport of men’s basketball. Requires good organizational skills, ability to communicate with student athletes and the media, computer literacy, and possession and maintenance of a valid driver’s license. Requires an understanding of the technical knowledge of the sport of men’s basketball with the ability to help develop the student athletes to their full potential.

http://uhrapps.rutgers.edu/jobs/JobDetail.aspx?pst_num=13-001012

LOL at nationally competitive

 

[babysheep]

is ruthetiger special needs or does it actually think anyone has any respect for rutgers?

 

[upstater]

LOL at nationally competitive

And some people say I'm hateful for pointing such things out.

 

[progrocks]

does anyone else miss having rutgersal around?

 

[StoweD210]

I suspect lots of alcohol was imbibed by some today.

Apparently, in such a state, it's hard to understand words such as these: "I was told my classes were never recorded. I saw a transcript. I will have to find it. I was there and I completed the work."

Hard to believe that some are suckered into thinking a PR person somewhere botched this for Jordan and Rutgers. After reading these lines, this tells me everything I need to know.

That touches on the part of this story that doesn't add up to me. Getting a degree is an accomplishment. Why let so much time go by if you did the work, but the school didn't recognize it?

I'm no enemy of procrastination, but waiting 30+ years to clear something up that would prove you're a college grad doesn't make sense to me.