OT Down goes Brady

[ZooCougar]

Penn St. fans have no problem with swallowing

Penn State fans know all about sweeping misdeeds under the rug too.

 

[Deepster]

His options if he leaves New England are pretty limited.

I only see 3 teams, and that's if they get rid of their QBs.

Chargers (Rivers), Bears (Trubisky), Bucs (Winston).

I find it hard to believe that the Bears give up on Trubisky, but he was pretty bad this year. Also, the Bucs giving up on Winston is hard to fathom, but Arians has made comments that show it may happen.

Some teams are truly bad and Brady simply will not go to them, like the Redskins and Bengals, even though they need a QB.

Really, his options are limited to the Patriots and 2 or 3 teams.

Panthers could also be in the mix.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I can't imagine he's going to go to some podunk market so it seems like the Chargers make the most sense but what do I know.

If this is the end - and I don't know if it is or not - what a run it's been. TWENTY-YEARS of sustained excellence. Absolutely incredible. Incredibly grateful as a fan that I got to experience it.

 

[ctchamps]

I can't imagine he's going to go to some podunk market so it seems like the Chargers make the most sense but what do I know.

If this is the end - and I don't know if it is or not - what a run it's been. TWENTY-YEARS of sustained excellence. Absolutely incredible. Incredibly grateful as a fan that I got to experience it.

Same here. It was incredible. More so considering what went before.
It would have been sweet by itself but it went hand in hand with the Sox as well as UConn's men's and women's bb teams.

 

[Deepster]

I can't imagine he's going to go to some podunk market so it seems like the Chargers make the most sense but what do I know.

If this is the end - and I don't know if it is or not - what a run it's been. TWENTY-YEARS of sustained excellence. Absolutely incredible. Incredibly grateful as a fan that I got to experience it.

That all makes perfect sense to me.

Of course, that doesn’t change the fact that the rest of the world is tap dancing on your grave today and that Belichick got out coached by Vrabel.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Of course, that doesn’t change the fact that the rest of the world is tap dancing on your grave today and that Belichick got out coached by Vrabel.

Part of what made it great. For two decades it was a big story every time they lost a game. Imagine that.

People started threads on college basketball message boards celebrating their losses. I certainly do not give two ___ when the Jets or Giants lose. They were the bogeyman of the league for 20 years. Twenty years. The hate was part of it. It was great.

As far as the "outcoached" thing, well, there are a handful of plays that swing games like that. The goal-line stand hurt. Edelman's drop was a killer. Shaq Mason wiping out the 40 yard pass play was a killer. And they gave up a couple critical third down conversions that kept the offense off the field. For a long time those little plays went the other way. They didn't last night. It happens. I've got no complaints.

 

[Deepster]

Part of what made it great. For two decades it was a big story every time they lost a game. Imagine that.

People started threads on college basketball message boards celebrating their losses. I certainly do not give two ___ when the Jets or Giants lose. They were the bogeyman of the league for 20 years. Twenty years. The hate was part of it. It was great.

As far as the "outcoached" thing, well, there are a handful of plays that swing games like that. The goal-line stand hurt. Edelman's drop was a killer. Shaq Mason wiping out the 40 yard pass play was a killer. And they gave up a couple critical third down conversions that kept the offense off the field. For a long time those little plays went the other way. They didn't last night. It happens. I've got no complaints.

Again. All sounds good.

But look at UConn. As dominant in the sport over 10-15 years. And now that those days are in the rear view window, people are calling for players heads when they have a bad half and miserable with .500 mediocrity.

Hope you learn from it when the Pats are 5-11 for a decade.

 

[Devland]

Again. All sounds good.

But look at UConn. As dominant in the sport over 10-15 years. And now that those days are in the rear view window, people are calling for players heads when they have a bad half and miserable with .500 mediocrity.

Hope you learn from it when the Pats are 5-11 for a decade.

Is Kraft selling?

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Again. All sounds good.

But look at UConn. As dominant in the sport over 10-15 years. And now that those days are in the rear view window, people are calling for players heads when they have a bad half and miserable with .500 mediocrity.

Hope you learn from it when the Pats are 5-11 for a decade.

Again, enjoy your victory. Good luck next week. I've got absolutely no complaints.

 

[superjohn]

Tom Brady's ever changing looks/transitioning has been more fascinating than all the winning and controversies.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Tom Brady's ever changing looks/transitioning has been more fascinating than all the winning and controversies.

Umm okay lol

 

[amidagoat]

Never count out Brady! The Road to Revenge in 2020 will be long and hard, but the Pats will emerge on top. LFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

 

[navery12]

Never count out Brady! The Road to Revenge in 2020 will be long and hard, but the Pats will emerge on top. LFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Which one is it, Brady on top or the Patriots? Won't be both

 

[jleves]

Which one is it, Brady on top or the Patriots? Won't be both

There's no reason he shouldn't be in New England next year. Considering what Brady has done for the Patriots:

 

[willie99]

As a Jets fan, that clock runoff was especially sweet because Belichick did it to be an to Gase and the Jets earlier in the year. I love the fact Vrabel did it to him and that Belichick threw a tantrum while he did it. Soooooo sweet.

And after that game. Belichick called it a stupid rule and said the NFL should change it. Knowing the rule, he should have called timeout immediately after they stopped TN on 3rd down

 

[willie99]

???

The Patriots won 4 Super Bowls without Gronk.

He wasn't on the field when they beat Atlanta.

Beat me to it, hate is blinding.

Some people say Belichick is overrated and Brady made the man. Others say Brady is overrated and it's all about Belichick's system.

Now we learn it's all about Gronk, who was in junior high for three victories and on the IR when Brady led the greatest comeback in SB history

 

[willie99]

Brady is not retiring

I can't imagine Brady wants to leave the Patriots, highly improbable

I know Kraft loves Brady and wants him to retire with the Patriots. He'll do what he can to make him stay

The issue might be Belichick, who's a ruthless roster manager. Does he think Tom's game has regressed to the point he doesn't want him back? I don't think so but I'm no Bill Belichick

Maybe Brady wants a multiyear commitment which Belichick opposes

My gut tells me they get it done, which is great for the Patriots because Brady is at his best with a chip on his shoulder, and next year is a chip year

 

[willie99]

Vrabel played for Belichick for eight years, the best years of his career and he won three SB's (non with gronk BTW,). I can only surmise that Belichick has some influence on his knowledge base. Let's not pretend otherwise

That all makes perfect sense to me.

Of course, that doesn’t change the fact that the rest of the world is tap dancing on your grave today and that Belichick got out coached by Vrabel.

It sucks to have your season end so early, maybe you can give some pointers on how to best endure this process based on your extensive experience

 

[willie99]

Is Kraft selling?

Is Belichick retiring?

 

[Deepster]

It sucks to have your season end so early, maybe you can give some pointers on how to best endure this process based on your extensive experience

Well it’s not just that your season ended early, it’s....

A) The way it ended with the Dolphins taking your bye away and Vrabel outfoxing Belichick and

B) The reality that, if your window isn’t shut? It’s pretty close. The reality of a Pats without Brady and Belichick is very close.

Those two things make me giggle.

 

[upstater]

Well it’s not just that your season ended early, it’s....

A) The way it ended with the Dolphins taking your bye away and Vrabel outfoxing Belichick and

B) The reality that, if your window isn’t shut? It’s pretty close. The reality of a Pats without Brady and Belichick is very close.

Those two things make me giggle.

Jete

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Well it’s not just that your season ended early, it’s....

A) The way it ended with the Dolphins taking your bye away and Vrabel outfoxing Belichick and

B) The reality that, if your window isn’t shut? It’s pretty close. The reality of a Pats without Brady and Belichick is very close.

Those two things make me giggle.

Good lord being a Jets fan seems awful.

 

[Deepster]

Good lord being a Jets fan seems awful.

Being a bandwagon jumping pink Brady jersey wearing Pats fan seems to be too easy.

Oh wait....you are the super fan who's followed them since the Steve Grogan days. Right. Just like everyone else.

 

[upstater]

Oh wait....you are the super fan who's followed them since the Steve Grogan days. Right. Just like everyone else.

You realize you're going back to 1975 here.

Do you even realize that was 45 years ago?

It shouldn't be a surprise that a team has fans that weren't around in 75!

Now, I am not a fan who's been following them since the Grogan days. I started following them when Plunkett was the QB.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Im not a Patriots fan by any means, but theres no way Brady goes out like that, right?

He already said he's not retiring.

As a Pats fan who was at the game, that pick 6 at the end was the worst part because it made it less likely Brady would retire. Can't win with him at QB anymore in my opinion. Patriots need to move on. If he wants to play, let him go to Chicago.

 

[HuskyHawk]

No, it's not pedantry. If Gase would have accepted, there wouldn't have been more penalties. That's the whole point. That's why Belichick was like, "Why in the world are you declining it?"

There's a reason why that Delay of Game penalty is never declined, and it's because of the rule. That's what Belichick was going on about against the Jets. He wasn't trying to waste time there. There'd be no reason to do it there.

It's a dumb rule. Every team punting inside the 50 takes a delay of game to move back 5 yards. So most of the time the defensive coach wants to decline and should be able to without having the clock run again.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Being a bandwagon jumping pink Brady jersey wearing Pats fan seems to be too easy.

Oh wait....you are the super fan who's followed them since the Steve Grogan days. Right. Just like everyone else.

You're having a very strange reaction to all this. The Pats have completely broken you. Frankly, I think it's great.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Beat me to it, hate is blinding.

Some people say Belichick is overrated and Brady made the man. Others say Brady is overrated and it's all about Belichick's system.

Now we learn it's all about Gronk, who was in junior high for three victories and on the IR when Brady led the greatest comeback in SB history

And it isn't all about the WR Brady has to throw to either. Other than Moss and maybe Welker and Edelman, he's never had top flight WRs. Deion Branch? He was solid. Troy Brown was solid. But we aren't talking hall of famers here.

The reality this year was that defenses saw that Tom can't throw deep accurately and lost a ton of velocity and accuracy on his sideline throws (which is where most of his picks came from as well). So they brought both safeties up, and blanketed the middle of the field with DBs and LBs. Nobody was open for a reason, the defense didn't have to defend a lot of the field. That also worked against the running game.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Being a bandwagon jumping pink Brady jersey wearing Pats fan seems to be too easy.

Oh wait....you are the super fan who's followed them since the Steve Grogan days. Right. Just like everyone else.

Like @upstater, I go back to the Grogan and Plunkett days. My first ever live NFL game was Lions vs Patriots at the old dump that was Shaeffer stadium in 1979. I don't even think of those teams as bad. They were often competitive. The 1978 team was terrific. Grogan, Stanley Morgan, Russ Francis, Sam Bam Cunningham. Steve Nelson on D. Loved that team. The 1976 team was even better.

 

[Deepster]

Like @upstater, I go back to the Grogan and Plunkett days. My first ever live NFL game was Lions vs Patriots at the old dump that was Shaeffer stadium in 1979. I don't even think of those teams as bad. They were often competitive. The 1978 team was terrific. Grogan, Stanley Morgan, Russ Francis, Sam Bam Cunningham. Steve Nelson on D. Loved that team. The 1976 team was even better.

I know. Every Pats fan is a super fan. No one jumped on the bandwagon there. Same goes for the Sox too.