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zyron said:
Well wait till you read this, from their board:

You may have 4 titles in the modern era, but you do not have as rich a basketball tradition as Providence College. Your accomplishments are all in the modern era. No small accomplishment, damn near dynastic, but your actual basketball tradition is shallow, regardless of what you've done for your fans in recent decades. Providence has an actual history and longer tradition where basketball is concerned, a history of innovative coaches, great players, winning big tournaments when the NCAA was not what it is today. Now, you can guffaw all you wish and say "not good enough" or "your're all about the past", but the simple fact here is your program has no real history at all in the development of the college game. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Until the BE and until Calhoun. Before that, you were a school in the woods of northeast Ct. And yet you come here to tell us what a joke program we've been throughout our much longer history and tradition in this game! Congrats on your titles. Maybe you'll win another some time. We've done very well over the years. We got nothing to be ashamed of, and no reason to regard UConn superior.

So far, your main point seems to be that UConn is God's gift to the college game and Providence is a laughing stock to the college game. Some of us know better where the history of basketball in this region is concerned.


UConn basketball started 1901, Providence 1921
UConn NCAA tournament appearances pre 1980: 1951, 1954, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1976, 1979
Providence NCAA tournament appearances pre 1980: 1964, 1965, 1966, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1977, 1978
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That dude still has left over LSD to be smiling after posting that. Mabe that was posted by Joey Hassett or something?
 
FriarJ said:
Wholly crap, you spend numerous posts trashing us, the conference the, network... I could care less what it sounds like. None of the schools in that conference we should have "stayed" in according to you have anything in common with the C7. We don't play football! We never will! The BE schools have an even playing field and the setup of the round robin schedule is perfect. You chose football and you get to keep all those $$$ all to yourselves. BE has a shot at 7 schools out of 10 dancing this year. So yes, I'm glad we are not playing Southeastern Carolina and its 300 RPI in front of 75 fans on espn3.
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Wait wouldn't that be 74 fans more the the PC Creighton game? (75 if you were busy that night.)
 
seanmc94 said:
Never posted that.
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March 2013 from the "Preliminary diagnosis on Giffey's right index finger is a dislocation fracture according to UCONN" thread


Me:
The Viking said:
If ever there is a chance for Providence fans to crow about their team compared to ours, it's these next couple of weeks.
Once next year starts and our shackles are off, things will begin to return to normalcy.
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You:
seanmc94 said:
Care to wager on next year, skippy.
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Me:
The Viking said:
Sure thing.
Start building the guidelines and get back to me
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You:
seanmc94 said:
Old school wrasslin; loser leaves town. Team that has a worse season; that guy leaves the yard; for a calendar year.

Fishy is the judge.
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BUH-BYE
 
The Viking said:
March 2013 from the "Preliminary diagnosis on Giffey's right index finger is a dislocation fracture according to UCONN" thread


Me:


You:


Me:


You:


BUH-BYE
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Hahahhahahaha
 
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Nice try. I threw down the challenge; you turtled.
You cant retroactively accept after the fact.
A for effort
 
seanmc94 said:
Nice try. I threw down the challenge; you turtled.
You cant retroactively accept after the fact.
A for effort
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OMG, Sean, he's got you here. You deny that you posted this challenge, then, you are proven wrong. Just like you call me a liar because I said there was a "thread" critical of Ollie and his divorce. Well, it wasn't thread just on Ollie's divorce. But, in that thread that attempts to rip UConn on anything imaginable for satisfaction for PC fans, Ollie's divorce was painted in a negative light buy many PC "charmers" in that thread
It's not worth it, to me, to look that thread up. But, others, here, saw it. It seems you like to deny matters that suit yourself, rather than the truth.
BTW, I noticed your starting that thread on" CT's native son." My best advice is if you wish to rub our noses in a CT kid playing for PC, you should actually send a film clip of a game in which PC actually wins the damned game!!
Finally, PC owes UConn on 3 different occasions.
First, years ago, Austin Croshire committed to UConn. His commitment was to Howie Dickenmann, then an assistant. Calhoun was out of town at that time. When JC came back he told Croshire he couldn't accept his commitment as he was holding it for Kirk King. King was a nice player, but Croshire led PC to the E-8. Big mistake.
Second, Ryan Gomes AAU coach begged Welch to take him. UConn took Caron Butler, who guided UConn to the E-8. Gomes was instrumental in a couple of wins over UConn (famous incident with JC & Solomon of NH Register) but, UConn won it all that year. Gomes never had an NCAA tourney win at PC.
Third UConn didn't have an available scolie for Kris Dunn. Final scolie given to Omar Calhoun. Dunn is having a great year. But, it probably will be his only year with you guys as he's moved into the 1st round of any potential draft. We'll get 4 years out of Omar. You'll get 1 great year out of Dunn. Let's call this a draw.
Comparing Chuckwu to Brima, right now, is no contest. We win. We'll see what the future brings between these two.
But, right now, you owe us.
 
Yonick said:
OMG, Sean, he's got you here. You deny that you posted this challenge, then, you are proven wrong. Just like you call me a liar because I said there was a "thread" critical of Ollie and his divorce. Well, it wasn't thread just on Ollie's divorce. But, in that thread that attempts to rip UConn on anything imaginable for satisfaction for PC fans, Ollie's divorce was painted in a negative light buy many PC "charmers" in that thread
It's not worth it, to me, to look that thread up. But, others, here, saw it. It seems you like to deny matters that suit yourself, rather than the truth.
BTW, I noticed your starting that thread on" CT's native son." My best advice is if you wish to rub our noses in a CT kid playing for PC, you should actually send a film clip of a game in which PC actually wins the damned game!!
Finally, PC owes UConn on 3 different occasions.
First, years ago, Austin Croshire committed to UConn. His commitment was to Howie Dickenmann, then an assistant. Calhoun was out of town at that time. When JC came back he told Croshire he couldn't accept his commitment as he was holding it for Kirk King. King was a nice player, but Croshire led PC to the E-8. Big mistake.
Second, Ryan Gomes AAU coach begged Welch to take him. UConn took Caron Butler, who guided UConn to the E-8. Gomes was instrumental in a couple of wins over UConn (famous incident with JC & Solomon of NH Register) but, UConn won it all that year. Gomes never had an NCAA tourney win at PC.
Third UConn didn't have an available scolie for Kris Dunn. Final scolie given to Omar Calhoun. Dunn is having a great year. But, it probably will be his only year with you guys as he's moved into the 1st round of any potential draft. We'll get 4 years out of Omar. You'll get 1 great year out of Dunn. Let's call this a draw.
Comparing Chuckwu to Brima, right now, is no contest. We win. We'll see what the future brings between these two.
But, right now, you owe us.
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It's Welsh. You are correct on the above, I do not agree on Dunn however. You will never convince me unless I hear it from Dunn that he would have chosen UConn over PC. BTW, congrats on the win last night. Rebounding and defense looked like UConn normally looks. What was up with all the empty seats? I was a bit surprised with the number one team in the AAC in town. This is not a slam, I'm curious. We struggle with student attendance sometimes too. Kids are different these days I guess.
 
FriarJ said:
It's Welsh. You are correct on the above, I do not agree on Dunn however. You will never convince me unless I hear it from Dunn that he would have chosen UConn over PC. BTW, congrats on the win last night. Rebounding and defense looked like UConn normally looks. What was up with all the empty seats? I was a bit surprised with the number one team in the AAC in town. This is not a slam, I'm curious. We struggle with student attendance sometimes too. Kids are different these days I guess.
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XL center on weekday night is the best guess on a weekday night Tulsa doesn't have the same name value imo as old BE teams or even SMU,Memphis ,temple or Cincy.
 
FriarJ said:
Yes, I think that is some of it. But it's been going on for years before the split. It's just too much hassle to get on a free bus and travel a mile down the hill to the Dunk. SMH.

In regards to this topic, PC had much higher ratings on the ESPN channels when we lucky enough to be on them. It's mostly an FS1 thing. Ratings for most BE games are higher then when FS1 shows the Pac 12
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That's because you only got on ESPN playing Syracuse or UConn
 
FriarJ said:
It's Welsh. You are correct on the above, I do not agree on Dunn however. You will never convince me unless I hear it from Dunn that he would have chosen UConn over PC. BTW, congrats on the win last night. Rebounding and defense looked like UConn normally looks. What was up with all the empty seats? I was a bit surprised with the number one team in the AAC in town. This is not a slam, I'm curious. We struggle with student attendance sometimes too. Kids are different these days I guess.
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My bad on Welsh. I think I butchered Croshere's name too.
Regarding Dunn, I say with confidence he would've chosen UConn over PC if offered. If you remember, Dunn & are Drummond were best buddies. Drummond was leaving St. Thomas Moore to attend Wilbraham. Dunn was leaving New London high to join him.
That all changed when Drummond announced he would attend UConn. Drummond had to pay his way. Dunn decided to go back to NL High and complete his senior year. Both would've attended UConn. Dunn if scholie existed for him. No way Drummond was going to PC.
Not to sound like a snot, but few CT kids will bypass their home state U for PC. These are no longer the days of Johnnie Egan and Soup Campbell. Only exception is Chuckwu who went to Fairfield Prep. No Athlete from that school gets away from the Catholic schools. He never even set foot on campus. A big football OL, UConn desperately could have used this year, from that school is headed to BC in the fall. A lot of Catholic High schools in the northeast do the same for Catholic colleges.
Regarding last night's attendance, the game should've been at Gample. Tulsa is not Syracuse etc. But, the big donors need to be satisfied, and UConn does a lousy job of getting the students from Storrs to Hartford.
 
FriarJ said:
It's Welsh. You are correct on the above, I do not agree on Dunn however. You will never convince me unless I hear it from Dunn that he would have chosen UConn over PC. BTW, congrats on the win last night. Rebounding and defense looked like UConn normally looks. What was up with all the empty seats? I was a bit surprised with the number one team in the AAC in town. This is not a slam, I'm curious. We struggle with student attendance sometimes too. Kids are different these days I guess.
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I won't go as far as saying Dunn definitely would have chosen UConn but he definitely didn't choose PC over UConn. Let's just kill that notion, UConn wasn't an option bc UConn got the guy they wanted in Calhoun.

PC and Cooley have really benefitted from UConns sanctions, in terms of recruiting, though that hasn't completely transitioned to on the court product.

Guys PC got partially because of the turmoil at UConn:
Dunn - love his game but he's only had on injury free season and it's not like UConn missed his the past two years.
Ledo - well not sure he ever had a serious offer from UConn and well...
Austin - rapist x 2, yeah...thanks for getting him
Chukwu look at his final two and you can see the influence (Catholic). Solid get though not Thabeet yet and not close to Brimah.

The 2015 guys both schools have gone after UConn has gotten: Adams and Enoch.
 
seanmc94 said:
you guys are the basketball version of the girl who leaves her husband and then continues to obsess about him. The NBE is fine without UConn. I'm sure you are fine with your new rivalries with East Carolina, Tulane and Central Florida. Move along.
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I don't want to read the whole thread, but was someone kind to point out to him that this may have been the stupidest post ever? Given that (i) Providence left the conference it was in, not us, and (ii) he is stalking on our board, not the other way around?
 
businesslawyer said:
I don't want to read the whole thread, but was someone kind to point out to him that this may have been the stupidest post ever? Given that (i) Providence left the conference it was in, not us, and (ii) he is stalking on our board, not the other way around?
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Combo of smack talk and trolling. sean and friar get pleasure out of coming here and some of the UConn guys get pleasure at ridiculing them and Providence. In the overall picture of nasty world events or even nasty UConn events this is way down the list. Not worth getting upset imo. I enter these threads with my bucket of popcorn. Cheap entertainment if you ask me.
 
Some more ratings from last week:

Tuesday 7 PM, ESPN, Kentucky/LSU, 2.4 million
Tue, 7 PM, ESPN2, Notre Dame/Clemson, 348,000
Mon, 7 PM, ESPNU, Oklahoma-Baylor, 228,000
Thu, 7 PM, ESPN2, UCONN-Tulsa, 201,000
Wed, 7 PM, ESPNU, K-State, WVU, 189,000
Wed, 8 PM, FS1, Providence-Villanova, 118,000
Mon, 9 PM, ESPNU, Georgia Tech, Va Tech, 112,000
Tue, 9 PM, FS1, Xavier-Marquette, 112,000
Tue, 7 PM, FS1, Georgetown-Seton Hall, 63,000
 
I don't know if there is truly a need for more proof to show that FS1 still needs to develop and grow before it becomes a legitimate competitior to ESPN... but we all knew this... but there almost seems a need to rub it in the face as if you discovered something new.

ESPN is the giant, and the little boys are competing to make things more interesting.

I do not understand how Connecticut fans do not sympathize with the efforts by secondary sports channels like CBSSN, NBCSN, FS1/2 to compete against this Giant. Competition is only good for college basketball. The less influence that ESPN has in the college basketball landscape, the better for all of us. Do you really want ESPN to continue destroying college basketball and to pick and choose which programs will survives and which one will die under their shadow?

ESPN has clearly chosen that it will do anything to protect Power 5 Football... and guess what... we are not even part of it. So our best bet is to go against this stupid establishment instead of playing along...

I protest against ESPN every day. I pretty much quit watching Sport Center and only watch Connecticut games on the ESPN networks. I watch Fox Sports Live to get my highlights or CBS Sports Network. F#K ESPN... They have done too much harm to the Connecticut brand and to everything that we've loved (Big East basketball and football_

No network should have such massive power to control the college landscape... they only do more harm than good
 
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I watch the champions league games on all the fsn channels and they do a good job advertising for the big east. I think what the big east needs to draw the ratings is for the teams to get good players and for the big name schools (gtown, nova,st johns) to start dominating OOC and in conference like they did in the old big east.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
I watch the champions league games on all the fsn channels and they do a good job advertising for the big east. I think what the big east needs to draw the ratings is for the teams to get good players and for the big name schools (gtown, nova,st johns) to start dominating OOC and in conference like they did in the old big east.
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The Big East dominated its OOC schedule, that's why is up there in the RPI. It has almost a .760 WPCT which is right on par with the old Big East... They also have great players... Its not about that

Don't you realize that it IS ESPN that creates the hype around players and teams. They have the power to build a brand or to destroy it by simply not talking about it and ignoring it. Whatever ESPN says everyone else follows. The current Big East has a ton of great players of top tier quality... but Fox Sports 1 doesn't have the market and influence to draw attention to them. Doug McDermott was lucky last year that he had some hype around him.

If the Big East was ESPN's property I'm sure they would be building hype around a team like Butler who no one expected them to be good this year. Butler has Darrum Hilliard/Dunham/Alex Barlow, Georgetown has Smith-River and Joshua Smith. St. John's has Sir'Dominic Pointer, Obekpa, and Harrison... Villanova is a final four caliber team who no ones know about (guess why) and the list goes on... You can definitely build some hype around these players if you had the influence, which Fox Sports does not.... and ESPN has no interests in hyping a competitors property.

yet we need to hear the entire day how the Duke vs North Carolina rivalry is the best rivalry in all of sports... That the Red Sox vs Yankess have nothing on this and blah blah. Are you freaking kidding me? ESPN is the biggest joke ever.

Are you all not really aware about how powerful ESPN is yet?

We should be grateful that Connecticut is still able to compete and gets some coverage despite not being in the Power-5. I hope that doesn't go away

But we should all be rooting for more competition in the marketing of College Sports. ESPN needs to lose some influence or else College Sports are forever going to be dictated by whatever ESPN wants
 
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