OT Anthony Bourdain dead

[JMick]

Not really sure if you are arguing my point/question or not. Regardless, suicide rates are rising very quickly. Some have stated medications have improved. My question is, why is the rate going up? Are medications less valuable than thought? Are environmental factors causing it? No matter the plight of those that are suicidal, why is the rate of actual suicide going through the roof?

To summarize, I understand why people feel hopeless—-I truly do. I’m about as liberally thinking and empathetic a guy as you’ll find, but I’m concerned we are missing something here. Drugs are a likely culprit as are garbage food additives and fillers that are nothing more than industrial chemicals.

There are so many different components and so many different variations of depression that it's impossible to find 'a' reason. I do think the rise in mass shootings and depression are caused by similar factors, though. If you haven't, I recommend reading Tribe or at least listening to Sebastian Junger. I can point you in that direction if you're curious.

 

[David 76]

Not really sure if you are arguing my point/question or not. Regardless, suicide rates are rising very quickly. Some have stated medications have improved. My question is, why is the rate going up? Are medications less valuable than thought? Are environmental factors causing it? No matter the plight of those that are suicidal, why is the rate of actual suicide going through the roof?

People are more stressed, but I would want to compare cultures. Is suicide increasing around the world? In "post industrialized nations? Is it higher in wealthy populations? Processed food nations?

I agree that meds are over-valued. Or that all the other things you can to address depression are under valued (therapy, coping skills, volunteering, etc.) Prescriptions may be great for you but they are not miracle pills.

As someone mentioned, reporting procedures need to be looked at too. Suicides don't always get reported as suicides to "help" the deceased's family. This used to happen much more, so there is a chance the increase is exaggerated.