Oregon (9) @ Miss St (5) Tonite

[mhshuskies]

MS putting it to OSU and the bench so in your face, this is going to be so sweet to put a beat down on them.

 

[triaddukefan]

Satou looks every bit as skilled as AS. She's very quick and has very good handles.
OU will be a very good team for the next couple of years.

Ionescu doesn't quite hit all of my expectations. She's a good all around player. Competitive.

And you add the ND transfer Boley next season. I guess she is a SF ?

 

[triaddukefan]

View attachment 26942

Ahhh... memories of the mid 1980s

 

[bballnut90]

So McCowan is the real deal. One of the more mobile 6-7 players I’ve seen and she is strong inside. Great finisher and rebounder....she has huge upside. I still want to see her perform at a high level against the likes of Aja or Kalani before immediately declaring her a high pick next year. Love what I saw today though.

Vivians was also unreal in the second half. If she continues to shoot efficiently and play smart, she should be a high pick in the draft. A big shooting guard with unlimited range, a quick release and a great frame...all of those traits bode well for her. Today she was on fire but I want to see more of her this year before I remove “bad shot selection” under her weaknesses.


Lots of season to be played, but I can’t imagine Mississippi State looking much better than they did today offensively. They were outstanding.

 

[eebmg]

Problem is that Harris last year had her way with Miss. St. and Aja neutralized McCowan and Bianca Cuevas-Moore always disrupts itty bitty. Maybe a little bias, but I still put UConn, ND, and South Carolina ahead of them. Just sayin..

Vivians is the key. She plays anywhere near how she played today, MSU is our toughest matchup. She played poorly almost all of last year and through the tournament.

 

[stwainfan]

SEC conference play about to start. It will be tough to go though undefeated for any team.

 

[Plebe]

So McCowan is the real deal. One of the more mobile 6-7 players I’ve seen and she is strong inside. Great finisher and rebounder....she has huge upside. I still want to see her perform at a high level against the likes of Aja or Kalani before immediately declaring her a high pick next year. Love what I saw today though.

Vivians was also unreal in the second half. If she continues to shoot efficiently and play smart, she should be a high pick in the draft. A big shooting guard with unlimited range, a quick release and a great frame...all of those traits bode well for her. Today she was on fire but I want to see more of her this year before I remove “bad shot selection” under her weaknesses.

Lots of season to be played, but I can’t imagine Mississippi State looking much better than they did today offensively. They were outstanding.

One thing I will say is that Oregon's finesse game proved not to match up well against Mississippi State. Teams with better quickness and physicality (e.g., Louisville, South Carolina, Tennessee) will have a much better chance of making Vivians and McCowan less comfortable and, well, not giving up 90 points.

 

[noirwestern]

One thing I will say is that Oregon's finesse game proved not to match up well against Mississippi State. Teams with better quickness and physicality (e.g., Louisville, South Carolina, Tennessee) will have a much better chance of making Vivians and McCowan less comfortable and, well, not giving up 90 points.

I kept wondering why Oregon wasn't keying in on Vivians and letting the tall gal get her thirty or forty since it was obvious they weren't going to stop her.

 

[SCspur]

Problem is that Harris last year had her way with Miss. St. and Aja neutralized McCowan and Bianca Cuevas-Moore always disrupts itty bitty. Maybe a little bias, but I still put UConn, ND, and South Carolina ahead of them. Just sayin..

I was impressed with what I saw from McCowan tonight but I have to say I agree with you. Miss State seems to be trying to take a page from SC playing 4 guards and 1 post but they still don't have anyone who can matchup with Wilson while Cliney and Cuevas-Moore can neutralize William and Vivians. Looking forward to our matchup.

 

[Plebe]

SEC conference play about to start. It will be tough to go though undefeated for any team.

No one in the SEC will go undefeated. I'm calling that one right now.

If there's one team that maybe has an outside shot at it, it'd be Mississippi State because they get SoCar at home and the only teams they play twice are Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Florida.

South Carolina not only travels to Starkville, but they have to play both Tennessee and Missouri twice each.
Tennessee gets Miss State at home, but they have to play both South Carolina and Texas A&M twice each.

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

View attachment 26940

Someone stole his doughnuts.

 

[Carnac]

Someone stole his doughnuts.

No, someone took his lunch money.

 

[Alydar]

One thing I noticed is that McCowan likes to defend from the protected arc under the basket and when the Oregon players drove they kept trying to shoot over her and around her with little success. McCowan has slow feet. What I suggest is that they drive right at her to create contact. As long as McCowan has a foot in the arc it's a blocking foul by rule despite who initiated the contact. With her on the bench Miss St's interior defense isn't that tough to beat.

 

[donalddoowop]

Sabally is one of the best freshmen in the country. I believe she has a chance to be a three time AA if she continues to improve.

 

[willtalk]

I watched Sabally play in the Jordan Classic and she really impressed me despite only scoring 3 points. The guards in that game tend to be a bit selfish. I thought she was the best looking player on the floor, impacting the game without scoring. I don't know if Kelly will start her in place of MeGuire. She is perfect coming off the bench because she can sub at any position. I did think he should have brought her in earlier though. I think she was the player who would have given MSS the most difficulties. If she drives to the basket she has the combination of skills and height to give McCowin trouble. She drew two fouls in a row on two drives. The last drive she attempted should also have been a foul bcause there was a lot of body contact.

Her sister Nyara is an inch shorter, more strudily built while also possessing similar shooting and ball handling skills.

I am also surprised that Graves didn't try their 6'6" player Giomi on McCowin for at least a few minutes to see if she might have done better defensively.She is not as polished offensively as his other players but she does seem to play intense defense and covers more territory. McGuire is a really good outside shooter but she is not that great of a defender.

 

[bballnut90]

One thing I will say is that Oregon's finesse game proved not to match up well against Mississippi State. Teams with better quickness and physicality (e.g., Louisville, South Carolina, Tennessee) will have a much better chance of making Vivians and McCowan less comfortable and, well, not giving up 90 points.

Agreed. Honestly I think Mississippi State is going to be very vulnerable against teams with size and who play good defense. If Vivians has a cold night and the opposing team can neutralize McCowan, a lot of teams will hang closely with Mississippi State. I still like this team's chance to make the Final Four if McCowan and Vivians bring consistent play.​

 

[BroadwayVa]

Mississippi St is a FINAL 4 team, Uconn will meet them again. 35 points for Morgan 30 for Vivians, McGowan over 21 first half and their defense is excellent with little let down with subs. Well coach, used the same techniques to beat Oregon they used to defeat Uconn. I suggest Geno start getting his frosh and sophs ready now . Run Morgan and Vivian's ragged with face guarding for 40 minutes--Morgan may take it it but Vivians won't. Azura if she can stay out of foul trouble will negate McGowan, maybe. Start now, Mss St is a good team..

 

[BroadwayVa]

Its on the SEC network. Should tell us alot about both teams.

Tells me we may meet Mss St in the final 4, they are under ranked and better than I expected, Oregon is over rated and not as good as I expected. Miss isn't /wasn't just a flash last April, they are good.

 

[stwainfan]

No one in the SEC will go undefeated. I'm calling that one right now.

If there's one team that maybe has an outside shot at it, it'd be Mississippi State because they get SoCar at home and the only teams they play twice are Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Florida.

South Carolina not only travels to Starkville, but they have to play both Tennessee and Missouri twice each.
Tennessee gets Miss State at home, but they have to play both South Carolina and Texas A&M twice each.

That's probably right. Whoever wins the SEC will probably have a couple of losses.

 

[easttexastrash]

MSU really looked good. McCowan has developed much better than I thought she would. She is the closest thing to Brown there is in the game. I still give Kalani the edge but it is much closer than it was last season. And she seems to have a lot of fun, which I love. She has obviously put in a lot of work and I am a big fan.

Vivians can really shoot the ball. I don't know how Oregon kept losing her last night and letting her shoot the three-ball. That always baffles me when the best shooter on the court has no defender around her.

William is the perfect PG for that team. She keeps her dribble alive and just keeps scooting around the court until something opens up on offense.

MSU may be the second best team in the nation.

 

[easttexastrash]

Nailed it.

 

[oldude]

Mississippi St is a FINAL 4 team, Uconn will meet them again. 35 points for Morgan 30 for Vivians, McGowan over 21 first half and their defense is excellent with little let down with subs. Well coach, used the same techniques to beat Oregon they used to defeat Uconn. I suggest Geno start getting his frosh and sophs ready now . Run Morgan and Vivian's ragged with face guarding for 40 minutes--Morgan may take it it but Vivians won't. Azura if she can stay out of foul trouble will negate McGowan, maybe. Start now, Mss St is a good team..

MS St is for real and they will definitely be a threat to make it back to their 2nd straight FF, but if the Bulldogs and the Huskies tangle again, make no mistake about it, MS St will be facing a much more difficult UConn team.

Last night, McCowan looked like a superstar, Vivians was unstoppable and MS St pressured Oregon into numerous TO’s and bad shots. If the Bulldogs face the Huskies again in the Big Dance, they will face a slew of challenges.

As with last year, Vivians will face a lock down defender, either Kia or Gabby. McCowan will not be able to simply park herself in the paint. Gabby, Pheesa or Z will pull her out of the paint when she’s on defense opening up the lane. When she’s on offense she’ll be bodied up, fronted and doubled. But mostly McCowan will be forced to deal with a 6’6” athletic post in Z who can run, shoot and challenge her shots.

As for the Bulldogs pressure defense, they will not face another pg all season like Crystal Dangerfield. Danger’s ability to break pressure, beat people off the dribble, find open teammates and knock down shots can neutralize even the best pressure defense, as DePaul learned last week.

 

[donalddoowop]

Mississippi St is a FINAL 4 team, Uconn will meet them again. 35 points for Morgan 30 for Vivians, McGowan over 21 first half and their defense is excellent with little let down with subs. Well coach, used the same techniques to beat Oregon they used to defeat Uconn. I suggest Geno start getting his frosh and sophs ready now . Run Morgan and Vivian's ragged with face guarding for 40 minutes--Morgan may take it it but Vivians won't. Azura if she can stay out of foul trouble will negate McGowan, maybe. Start now, Mss St is a good team..

Morgan did not score 30 points.

 

[BroadwayVa]

MS St is for real and they will definitely be a threat to make it back to their 2nd straight FF, but if the Bulldogs and the Huskies tangle again, make no mistake about it, MS St will be facing a much more difficult UConn team.

Last night, McCowan looked like a superstar, Vivians was unstoppable and MS St pressured Oregon into numerous TO’s and bad shots. If the Bulldogs face the Huskies again in the Big Dance, they will face a slew of challenges.

As with last year, Vivians will face a lock down defender, either Kia or Gabby. McCowan will not be able to simply park herself in the paint. Gabby, Pheesa or Z will pull her out of the paint when she’s on defense opening up the lane. When she’s on offense she’ll be bodied up, fronted and doubled. But mostly McCowan will be forced to deal with a 6’6” athletic post in Z who can run, shoot and challenge her shots.

Until they match up predictions at this time have tiny validity---that's true. IF Big IF and Mss st will work towards--getting fouls on Azura to negate her effect--which should change the entire game should UC and Ms meet--but as we both know--the meeting is at it's best IFFY--each has to survive some very good, getting better from now to April, teams.
McGowan is a very good shot blocker, not mobile, has an excellent shot from 15 ft on in, as has been pointed out she lives (usually) within the ARC. The thing that impressed me with Ms St were 2 (maybe more) their shooting was exceptionally accurate, their defense was very good down to the last one onto the floor. If they shoot like this every night (doubtful) you pick your defensive poison.

As for the Bulldogs pressure defense, they will not face another pg all season like Crystal Dangerfield. Danger’s ability to break pressure, beat people off the dribble, find open teammates and knock down shots can neutralize even the best pressure defense, as DePaul learned last week.

MORE REPLY WITH IN THE BOX ABOVE
Yet with all you say---it is important to get as many youngsters prepared for SOME effective minutes in Guarding Vivian and or Morgan. We know they are not the only scorers for Ms St, but so far the most prolific. McGowan isn't their only true Big--and the sub is good but no as effective. Working to get McGowan in foul trouble is one way to negate her effect and allow Napheesa, and Gabby to run freely.

Ms State has a good coaching staff, a very talented with ability to execute and follow the coaching plans. Make the a very very good team--something I did not expect to see.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Morgan did not score 30 points.

I guess I shouldnt rely on post games posted stats.