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Ollie Suing Glen Miller for Slander

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upstater said:
He's seeking $15k+?
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pj said:
If he's seeking $15k, why even sue except out of spite? You can't help yourself, you can only inflict legal fees on the other party.
So Miller only has to show that he reasonably believed his wife was telling the truth. And his wife will support that.
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upstater said:
Miller's wife is being sued too.
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Potentially, $15K x 2 = $30K = alleged payment(s) reimbursement. Oops, the suit seeks > $15K x 2. Regardless, the departed's logic quite frankly may potentially be impaired. Or, potentially his basic math skills may not be too strong. Or, he potentially may be chasing any form of revenge. Or, he potentially may have ignored possible legal advice regarding the potential for subpoenaed financial records. Or, potentially some other stuff thrown against a symbolic wall hoping something sticks or contributing to the preceding hybrid possibilities.
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
Potentially, $15K x 2 = $30K = alleged payment(s) reimbursement. Oops, the suit seeks > $15K x 2. Regardless, the departed's logic quite frankly may potentially be impaired. Or, potentially his basic math skills may not be too strong. Or, he potentially may be chasing any form of revenge. Or, he potentially may have ignored possible legal advice regarding the potential for subpoenaed financial records. Or, potentially some other stuff thrown against a symbolic wall hoping something sticks or contributing to the preceding hybrid possibilities.
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or maybe miller invented the story and ko should get his name cleared. i know - crazy.
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
Potentially, $15K x 2 = $30K = alleged payment(s) reimbursement. Oops, the suit seeks > $15K x 2. Regardless, the departed's logic quite frankly may potentially be impaired. Or, potentially his basic math skills may not be too strong. Or, he potentially may be chasing any form of revenge. Or, he potentially may have ignored possible legal advice regarding the potential for subpoenaed financial records. Or, potentially some other stuff thrown against a symbolic wall hoping something sticks or contributing to the preceding hybrid possibilities.
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It's a pleading to get them in front of a particular court. He could be looking for $10mm, but you'd still say greater than $15k in the complaint.
 
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Madmannsucks said:
Standard lawsuit language, either less than or greater than 15K. Does not mean more than that.
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Yup... Boilerplate.

>>Connecticut General Statutes section 52-91 and Connecticut Practice Book section 10-20 talk about the Statement of Amount in Demand. According to Connecticut General Statutes section 52-91, there are three ways to write the range in which the amount in demand falls. The three ways are: 1) “is fifteen thousand dollars or more…”; 2) “is two thousand five hundred dollars or more but is less than fifteen thousand dollars…”; 3) “is less than two thousand five hundred dollars…” Use the range in which the dollar amount for which you are asking falls. For example, if you are asking for $5,000.00 dollars write “is two thousand five hundred dollars or more but less than fifteen thousand dollars.”<<
 
gwhuskyfan said:
So looks like this is about this part of Miller's testimon
“She articulated to my wife that Kevin provided her with somewhere in the neighborhood, I think, of $30,000 to make the move … and you know with that she was indebted to him, and she would be able to move into an apartment,” Miller told the NCAA’s Assistant Director of Enforcement Russell Register during a November interview in the New London offices of Miller's attorney, Tony Coric.
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jibsey said:
If KO provided Shonn Miller’s mother with $30,000 wouldn’t that be easily traced? Unless he gave her gold bullion this is an easy one right?
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If one leaps to presume any potential payments were made directly by KO, that may not be a good presumption even with the departed's seeminig examples of potential vacuous logic. But, generously presuming any possible direct payments by the departed existed: Lease agreement? Potentially traceable. Car payment? Potentially traceable. Any bank deposits foolishly exceeding $10K? Easily documented by recipient financial institution. Living expenses, clothing budget, etc. Less so ... Garrett's possible tax returns? Hmmm ...
 
Jaker said:
Miller was a nice player, but 30k nice??,, not even close.
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I would be interested in a timeline of when the alleged 30k payment happened and when KO's divorce was announced.
 
UCDaveD said:
I get why KO would seek damages, but wtf reasoning does Shonn's mother have to be involved? What damages did she incur as a result of allegedly getting $30k? Good luck, lady. Just being used as a pawn by KO's crack-legal team.
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Seriously. Had anyone heard her name in any of this until now?
 
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whaler11 said:
or maybe miller invented the story and ko should get his name cleared. i know - crazy.
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How does one do this? It's simply a he said/she said though, no?
 
whaler11 said:
you dont think winning this lawsuit means it clears him of that accusation?
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No, I'm asking how you win this lawsuit. Is passing along a rumor, which was never presented as a fact, illegal? He basically said, "I heard this. But I can't prove anything".

Honest question. These types of things are not my forte.
 
upstater said:
I really don't care about what happens to Ollie. I don't care what the court of law does to him. So your post is a total non-sequitir when it comes to this discussion.

If UConn gets dinged because they strung this out, they only have themselves to blame. That much is obvious.
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Ok, my bad - I lumped the argument that UConn would/should settle in with Ollie sycophants b/c it is one that has been frequently used on this board to try and sway public opinion.
We simply disagree then on whether or not UConn should stand on principal (I say yes) or view the matter more practically and settle for something as the ongoing detriment from Ollie's PR and litigious nature does 'damage' to UConn and is certainly known as unavoidable at this point.

And I gather you are arguing that shedding additional light on shenanigans other programs know how to hide further damages the UConn brand.

My perception is limited to the college basketball world of games played, coverage of those games etc.. , excludes in-depth recruiting. So in my limited worldview I see UConn as largely unharmed as the major potential impact was in the hiring of a new coach. And I generally support any entity, especially a public one that tries to make the right choice with its ethics and monies versus throwing money at a PR problem. I can see the possibility that this whole thing adds further NCAA scrutiny, but given the past its reasonable to assume the NCAA is especially up into UConn dark areas regardless.
To me at this point UConn wins for doing the right thing and is getting imminently closer to complete vindication. This will likely be a blip on the PR radar versus the negativity of the ongoing story, but personally my respect and loyalty to the program will grow outside of and regardless of that media blip and assuming there are enough others like me then UConn does benefit over the long run.
 
intlzncster said:
No, I'm asking how you win this lawsuit. Is passing along a rumor, which was never presented as a fact, illegal? He basically said, "I heard this. But I can't prove anything".

Honest question. These types of things are not my forte.
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Oh I don’t really know either. I doubt he wins - but if it becomes clear there is no evidence of payments that’s a win for him personally.
 
Madmannsucks said:
Because 30 grand buys a lot more than Shonn Miller. Please-like my old personal add said...serious replies only.
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ya know, that's an interesting point. what is the market price these days for college bball players?
 
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Dogdeacon said:
To me at this point UConn wins for doing the right thing and is getting imminently closer to complete vindication. This will likely be a blip on the PR radar versus the negativity of the ongoing story, but personally my respect and loyalty to the program will grow outside of and regardless of that media blip and assuming there are enough others like me then UConn does benefit over the long run.
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We disagree on one key point: I think UConn came up with excuses not to pay him, because they didn't want to pay him.

But otherwise, I only brought up a hypothetical situation. If Miller's charge proves to be true, then UConn will have lost a lot more than the $8 million it is trying to save. Blame it on Ollie, but you can't say the administration wouldn't have avoided that horrid outcome if only it hadn't refused to pay him.
 
whaler11 said:
Oh I don’t really know either. I doubt he wins - but if it becomes clear there is no evidence of payments that’s a win for him personally.
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But, like we said, his wife is being sued as well. In her case, she wasn't passing on a rumor because she claimed Shonn's mother told her that. Shonn's mother either told her that, or she didn't (both likely impossible to prove).
 
Ollie is off his rocker for going this route. 0% chance he wins here.
 
upstater said:
But, like we said, his wife is being sued as well. In her case, she wasn't passing on a rumor because she claimed Shonn's mother told her that. Shonn's mother either told her that, or she didn't (both likely impossible to prove).
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If Shonn’s mother wasn’t part of the suit I could make a case that it exists to force UConn’s hand on a settlement. Since she is part of the suit it really just seems like he wants that not part of any future job search.

If there is evidence of payments God bless these lunatics.
 
intlzncster said:
No, I'm asking how you win this lawsuit. Is passing along a rumor, which was never presented as a fact, illegal? He basically said, "I heard this. But I can't prove anything".

Honest question. These types of things are not my forte.
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Since Miller is a public figure, the standard for burden of proof is higher. The statements made must either prove to be false, and were made knowing they were false, or were made with reckless disregard as to the truth or falsity of the statements. With public figures, malice is also an important issue. Absent malice it's going to favor Miller.
 
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Another key here is who is the alleged 3rd party, are they going to be identified, and will they provide a deposition or testimony.
 
Shonn Miller is a IVY league graduate with a masters degree from UCONN. He wants a future career in the corporate or sports management world. The rumors of him/ his mom took money from KO could hinder his career. It makes sense to defend his reputation against a bitter liar
 
BTW, Chief our Nostradamus is correct. MAL was dissuaded from coming to UCONN by a disgruntled GM. He ought to sue GM for the way things work out for him also
 
Whtdmd said:
Shonn Miller is a IVY league graduate with a masters degree from UCONN. He wants a future career in the corporate or sports management world. The rumors of him/ his mom took money from KO could hinder his career. It makes sense to defend his reputation against a bitter liar
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Really can't see his mom taking money impacting his career chances in the corporate world whatsoever.
 
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