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Tenspro2002 said:
If we don't make the NCAAT, it will be the first time in 27 years that we have failed to make it two years in a row. An unprecedented low for UConn basketball as we know it.

That will get the clock ticking. 2 more years to show the new AD (who has no loyalty to KO) that JC was right about him as the long-term solution.
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Can't argue with this. We always want to compare ourselves to the other blue blood programs, and rightfully so. So why do some people bristle over any suggestion of making a change if this continues? Do we ever see Kentucky, Duke, MSU, UNC miss the dance two years in a row? It wouldn't be accepted there and shouldn't be here.
 
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2north said:
Certainly not on Jalen but they went up 12 without him on the floor.
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I get that but they did that with Purvis missing lay ups and Gibbs not making too many plays either. Adams playing would not have hurt and it certainly would have made him a more confident and comfortable player coming in to help get the game back. I would have rejected his decision had he not played him at all. But not fair to ask him to suddenly be the savior, sorry it's just not.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
As soon as we give him a raise, off of 3 great weeks, he turns around and s*** the bed as a coach.

The recruiting classes are a nice step, but if we continue to be irrelevant year after year, because of poor in-game coaching and non-existent development of talent, that well will dry up.
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100% correct
 
uconnever said:
so you guys think our coach lost this game? up what 12 6 min left? def not his fault. we couldnt make layups and temple hit big shots. the only thing that was a bad move by Ollie was leaving Gibbs in. But the players lost that game. Choked!
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Is he not responsible for the plays called? If they aren't executed properly, then put someone else in. That possession out of a TO with the game tied was dreadful. Ollie has to start owning this .....or he's gonna lose his team.
 
KingOPancakes said:
You keep touting that fact like its impressive to build a 12 point lead in 15 minutes when you have a top 3 defense that is smothering the other team. Give jalen his minutes and you have a comprehensive offense that cruises to a win tonight.
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mauconnfan said:
I get that but they did that with Purvis missing lay ups and Gibbs not making too many plays either. Adams playing would not have hurt and it certainly would have made him a more confident and comfortable player coming in to help get the game back. I would have rejected his decision had he not played him at all. But not fair to ask him to suddenly be the savior, sorry it's just not.
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Exactly my point. They're up 12 with 6 mins to go. He's not rescuing that debacle of a finish and nothing he did in the first half suggests they would even take the lead with him on the floor.
 
@2north the point I'm trying to make is that building a 12 point lead over 15 minutes on a team you're holding to 30% from the field is not something to be proud of. It means you're not scoring the ball as much as you should be. And if this season has taught us anything it's that Gibbs is not a PG. the offense runs much smoother with Jalen at the point. Forget whatever lesson you're trying to teach him, put Adams in the game, let your offense do the work and have Jalen run laps tomorrow for whatever indiscretion he'd committed at the half.
 
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KingOPancakes said:
@2north the point I'm trying to make is that building a 12 point lead over 15 minutes on a team you're holding to 30% from the field is not something to be proud of. It means you're not scoring the ball as much as you should be. And if this season has taught us anything it's that Gibbs is not a PG. the offense runs much smoother with Jalen at the point. Forget whatever lesson you're trying to teach him, put Adams in the game, let your offense do the work and have Jalen run laps tomorrow for whatever indiscretion he'd committed at the half.
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Fair enough. And my point is Jalen being in the game is not pushing a lead to 20. It was a complete team meltdown.
 
it was obviously a meltdown, but not having jalen on the floor in the second half presumably left gibbs/purvis/hamilton more fatigued for the stretch and finally bringing him in when he had no chance to establish a rhythm made no sense
 
msgordon said:
it was obviously a meltdown, but not having jalen on the floor in the second half presumably left gibbs/purvis/hamilton more fatigued for the stretch and finally bringing him in when he had no chance to establish a rhythm made no sense
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Not sure we'll ever find out why Jalen was benched and I'm almost convinced that's a good thing because there's no right answer. There's nothing Adams could have done that was severe enough to bench him for an entire half (which was absolutely the original plan), yet forgivable enough to bring him in when you realize you're drowning. I've got KO's back on a lot of things, but this was completely mismanaged.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess no one from the horde pushed for a further explanation of what the "reason" was or asked why the "reason" became irrelevant at the end of the game.
 
KingOPancakes said:
Not sure we'll ever find out why Jalen was benched and I'm almost convinced that's a good thing because there's no right answer. There's nothing Adams could have done that was severe enough to bench him for an entire half (which was absolutely the original plan), yet forgivable enough to bring him in when you realize you're drowning. I've got KO's back on a lot of things, but this was completely mismanaged.
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Yep, I think it was the original plan to keep him benched. I think I saw him in warmups most of the 2nd half as if he wasn't coming back. I thought he might be hurt. Then, KO puts him back in at the last minute when it is too late and scowls at him when he makes the bad pass.
 
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2north said:
Exactly my point. They're up 12 with 6 mins to go. He's not rescuing that debacle of a finish and nothing he did in the first half suggests they would even take the lead with him on the floor.
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Nothing he did in the first half suggests they would take a lead with him on the floor? We couldn't have used the 6 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal and 1 block that he had in the first half, in the second half? Oh yea, and no turnovers in the first half either.
 
80shusky said:
Nothing he did in the first half suggests they would take a lead with him on the floor? We couldn't have used the 6 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal and 1 block that he had in the first half, in the second half? Oh yea, and no turnovers in the first half either.
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No, because they didn't take the lead with him on the floor. And the guy he was guarding went off in the 1st half (and the 2nd so nobody was stopping him.)

Sure we could have used him but he doesn't change the game tonight, we implode with or without him.
 
huskiesnyc said:
Adams has really made big strides the past 5 games and now KO does this? I hope it doesn't affect the kids head moving forward. I wouldn't be too happy if I were Jalen or his family with how he's being utilized/coached.
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This is what bothered me most about the benching. He has been his most confident and assertive the last few games, driving and more importantly, FINISHING around the rim, and picking the right spots to do so. Its pretty clear our offense, as bad as it looks sometime, is at its best with Adams and Miller on the floor.
 
2north said:
Exactly my point. They're up 12 with 6 mins to go. He's not rescuing that debacle of a finish and nothing he did in the first half suggests they would even take the lead with him on the floor.
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But my point is they were missing lay ups and making bad plays during our surge to the lead which could have been 20 not 12. It only became worst when they lost the lead. Adams would have helped if nothing else, not hurt.
 
But does anyone actually know what Adams did? In game that is. Does anyone remember an egregiously lazy or dumb play?

Because every game I see Gibbs, purvis, brimah, and Hamilton make dumb, lazy, unacceptable mistakes but they never get pulled out for them let alone completely benched.

To me, Adams is the guy on the team who tries the hardest and seems the most coachable. Certainly more than Gibbs or Hamilton. Makes no sense why Ollie keeps benching him and leaves the same guys in to make the same mistakes over and over.
 
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That game was so depressing. Nobody knows what would have happened if Adams had played through the heart of the second half, but I can tell you this. He would not have missed some of the bunnies they missed. I mean wth was that. We missed 3 WIDE OPEN LAYUPS. Not weaving through traffic, WIDE OPEN LAYUPS. I play pickup ball up in VT. Sometimes we are able to make some good plays, lots of times not so much. People miss wide open layups every once in a while. But these are a bunch of out of shape older dudes who uses to be ok in high school. How do Starters in a division one game miss 3 WIDE OPEN LAYUPS. If we had made one of those 3, 33% on a shot that should be 99% we would have won that game because the lead would have been big enough with so little time that Temple does not believe that they can win. I really don't understand at all. Its really more like 5 wide open layups because the one play involved 3 tries. With our defense sometimes it is shocking how good and bad we are. I said with about 5 left, ok we need to score over 60 points and we win. We had like 50 and they had like 38. How in the heck does a team score 40% of its total points in 5 out of the total 40 minutes and in the same timeframe we manage to score only 8. That game really took the wind out of our sails. Short of us beating cincy and smu twice that may be it. We are Uconn, we don't get swept by a team like temple, or maybe we do now......
 
HuskiesAllDay said:
But does anyone actually know what Adams did?

Because every game I see Gibbs, purvis, brimah, and Hamilton make dumb, lazy, unacceptable mistakes but they never get pulled out for them let alone completely benched.
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Adams is the future. Adams dogged it and gave up three threes. It should be obvious that the players mentioned above will not lead UConn to the promise land.
Adams might be able to. So, Ollie is holding him to a higher standard.
Ollie was able to mold Boat from a gunner into one of the best guards in the country, on both ends of the court.
Why should he do less for Adams?
 
pnow15 said:
Adams is the future. Adams dogged it and gave up three threes. It should be obvious that the players mentioned above will not lead UConn to the promise land.
Adams might be able to. So, Ollie is holding him to a higher standard.
Ollie was able to mold Boat from a gunner into one of the best guards in the country, on both ends of the court.
Why should he do less for Adams?
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That's a ridiculous reason. So screw this year? Hold players to different standards based on their long term ability?

If that's true, which I'm pretty it's not, then its absurd.
 
methodology said:
Oz the resident insider on TOS said jalen went off on coaches and a player at half.

Sounds like ollie didn't have a choice
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It appears he did have a choice, because he put him back in the game once the flood gates had bust open... I'd be interested to hear what JA said, if this is true; because you can't ask the kid to be a leader out on the floor and then punish him when he vocalizes his frustrations.
 
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