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Ollie fighting to keep his job..Link from ESPN

UConnDan97 said:
Would you simply "settle" for less than what you were owed simply because your boss asked you to???

The entire premise is ridiculous...
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If I committed infractions that could possibly result in receiving NOTHING? I might negotiate.
 
UConnDan97 said:
The second part of your statement is the reason why you need to cool your jets. Your hatred for the man doesn't change the fact that every person in this board would do the same thing in his shoes...
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I'm not surprised he's doing it, I'm surprised people think we should pay him $10mm and still want to call themselves UConn fans
 
This was 100% expected. The firing for cause was as much a starting position in a reduced buyout as is Ollie contesting it. At this point he doesn't want to be back as much as the administration doesn't want him back. They'll find a spot to settle with the amount depending on how much leverage the school has with the cause finding. No surprise from either side.
 
jorge34 said:
If I committed infractions that could possibly result in receiving NOTHING? I might negotiate.
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Well, that's the $64 question, isn't it? Did he actually commit infractions that could possibly result in receiving nothing?

That's why I said, "we'll see"...
 
UConnDan97 said:
Would you simply "settle" for less than what you were owed simply because your boss asked you to???

The entire premise is ridiculous...
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It depends what the validity of the cause is.
 
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JMick said:
I'm not surprised he's doing it, I'm surprised people think we should pay him $10mm and still want to call themselves UConn fans
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Asked and answered...
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
The people who are outraged by this ... do you have adult jobs in the real world?
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Yes and outside of cushy CEO jobs with golden parachutes at major corps or coaching gigs it is not customary to get paid for future work you did not complete. But that is what happened, somewhere along the line coaches got a lot of power, maybe even decades ago, not really sure how this trend started though. Likely with some big name school with a surplus of funds and a desire to win quickly with very pro-coach contracts, who knows.

Just the same, to get money even after doing a lousy job is quite, dear I say, crazy! In any other field, that level of ineptitude is a fire-able offense without getting anything, but again, schools lost a lot of power. I would imagine that is what people are pissed about. But yah, I guess if it is in his contract, he should fight for it, just don't be shocked if more people start to despise him.

So yes, I am sure most of us do indeed have real life jobs. Real life jobs with little or even no protection.
 
Travelman32 said:
Yes and outside of cushy CEO jobs with golden parachutes at major corps or coaching gigs it is not customary to get paid for future work you did not complete. But that is what happened, somewhere along the line coaches got a lot of power, maybe even decades ago, not really sure how this trend started though. Likely with some big name school with a surplus of funds and a desire to win quickly with very pro-coach contracts, who knows.

Just the same, to get money even after doing a lousy job is quite, dear I say, crazy! In any other field, that level of ineptitude is a fire-able offense without getting anything, but again, schools lost a lot of power. I would imagine that is what people are pissed about. But yah, I guess if it is in his contract, he should fight for it, just don't be shocked if more people start to despise him.

So yes, I am sure most of us do indeed have real life jobs. Real life jobs with little or even no protection.
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That sounds like a no.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
That sounds like a no.
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Wow, real indepth.... I have been employed nonstop since I recovered from my illness in 2011.

Why would you even say such a (snarky) thing?? I really do not get what you have to gain from being like that.

I also said I am not outraged, I get that he will fight for it. I also get that people will be mad at him.

Yes, yes I am employed.
 
HuskyBoi said:
Everyone relax.
If you were fired from your job for whatever reason, you would do what you can do protect your identity and integrity, and fight for what YOU believe is right.
Let the man be. .
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More to the point; if UConn was flush with money right now, we wouldn't be having this discussion anyways. We would have fired him on the basis of our basketball team underperforming, paid him his 10 million, and carried on with the business of finding the best coach we can.

But the AD is broke. This is what needs to happen from both sides to do it, and nobody with a cool head should be surprised...
 
I think the ones outraged don't understand what an arbitration entails. Both sides argue their sides (with some stuff that is downright hurtful to the other party to strengthen their case) then an independent arbitrator/arbitrators make a decision they think is most fair based on the facts and arguments presented
 
UConnDan97 said:
More to the point; if UConn was flush with money right now, we wouldn't be having this discussion anyways. We would have fired him on the basis of our basketball team underperforming, paid him his 10 million, and carried on with the business of finding the best coach we can.

But the AD is broke. This is what needs to happen from both sides to do it, and nobody with a cool head should be surprised...
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I understand. But you gotta remember that the University not only has their reputation to defend - Ollie has his own to vindicate. Just let the money aside for a second.

I get that Benedict pulled the Just Cause firing on Ollie to save the money. But Ollie has every right to combat that, protect his selfhood for his own good.
 
HuskyBoi said:
I understand. But you gotta remember that the University not only has a reputation to defend - Ollie has his own to vindicate.
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That's exactly what I've been arguing this entire thread; something that anyone here would do. I think you're on the same page as me on this one anyways...
 
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He is going to get his money - no question about it
AD David Benedict and co. rolled the dice and they will lose
KO wasn't coming back, everyone half a brain knew that but trying to get it on the cheap is going to cost money
It's now a matter of principle - KO would not do this if he knew he did something wrong enough to get himself fired beyond performance
This allows me to think that this was all a surprise and the school's AD, Pres, McHugh and BoT did not seek some type of amicable parting solution - something that should have occurred
Time for a complete housecleaning - start with McHugh and Herbst and send DB packing to where he wants to go -the SEC
This has the looks of something ugly and if I'm KO I would stick my nose up at any attempting of appeasement by DB.
 
gtcam said:
He is going to get his money - no question about it
AD David Benedict and co. rolled the dice and they will lose
KO wasn't coming back, everyone half a brain knew that but trying to get it on the cheap is going to cost money
It's now a matter of principle - KO would not do this if he knew he did something wrong enough to get himself fired beyond performance
This allows me to think that this was all a surprise and the school's AD, Pres, McHugh and BoT did not seek some type of amicable parting solution - something that should have occurred
Time for a complete housecleaning - start with McHugh and Herbst and send DB packing to where he wants to go -the SEC
This has the looks of something ugly and if I'm KO I would stick my nose up at any attempting of appeasement by DB.
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So much is wrong with this post, but I'll just point out that McHugh stepped down last year.
 
methodology said:
And it will all be public. Calhoun might be the only viable choice at this point due to $$ and the bad look of the athletic department with how they treat their coaches
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is calhoun being our last resort really that bad of a situation to be in
 
UConnDan97 said:
Of course, we'll lose time, recruits, and future coaching prospects in the process. It would have been better to let him go with the 10 mil and move on... If we only had the money...
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Can't we still hire a coach while this process continues?

UConnDan97 said:
More to the point; if UConn was flush with money right now, we wouldn't be having this discussion anyways. We would have fired him on the basis of our basketball team underperforming, paid him his 10 million, and carried on with the business of finding the best coach we can.
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I don't agree with that. Programs flush with cash all over the country try to get out on technicalities. Florida football fired their coach for cause because he did not report a 'death threat' to the administration. Ended up costing the guy half his buyout.

Imagine that. Get a death threat. Ignore it. Costs you 7mil or so.
 
gtcam said:
He is going to get his money - no question about it
AD David Benedict and co. rolled the dice and they will lose
KO wasn't coming back, everyone half a brain knew that but trying to get it on the cheap is going to cost money
It's now a matter of principle - KO would not do this if he knew he did something wrong enough to get himself fired beyond performance
This allows me to think that this was all a surprise and the school's AD, Pres, McHugh and BoT did not seek some type of amicable parting solution - something that should have occurred
Time for a complete housecleaning - start with McHugh and Herbst and send DB packing to where he wants to go -the SEC
This has the looks of something ugly and if I'm KO I would stick my nose up at any attempting of appeasement by DB.
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It makes you wonder if they even attempted a negotiated buyout.
Bad look for the University.
 
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intlzncster said:
Can't we still hire a coach while this process continues?



I don't agree with that. Programs flush with cash all over the country try to get out on technicalities. Florida football fired their coach for cause because he did not report a 'death threat' to the administration. Ended up costing the guy half his buyout.
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I think we can still go after another coach, but we would do it with the uncertainty of how much money we can apply to the new coach due to a lack of clarity on how much we still have to pay the old one...
 
Benedict probably knew he wouldn't get away with the 'just cause' in the first place. So he just decided to do it anyway and probably force Ollie to meet him in the middle with a good enough number of $ for him to walk away
 
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HuskyBoi said:
Benedict probably knew he wouldn't get away with the 'just cause' in the first place. So he just decided to do it anyway and probably force Ollie to meet him in the middle with a good enough number of $ for him to walk away
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yup, probably spot on
 
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