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[jostar1]

Tuxedo Yoda‏@TuxedoYoda6h
Heard from my Austin source. Phone conference early this week with all of the B12 members led by Bowlsby. Realignment related.#time4ucfusf

 

[jostar1]

MH3‏@MH32h
Lets put it this way: the ACC signed a GOR. They signed the document they needed to sign to get the TV deal done. However ...

MH3‏@MH32h
...the GOR has specific wording regarding espn's creation of acc network and regarding a final document to be signed by all member ...

MH3‏@MH32h
...institutions upon creation of said network. The timeline is one year from the date of 'preliminary' GOR. Even if espn creates the ...

MH3‏@MH32h
...ACC network they still need to get all signatures in final tv contract and final GOR. ACC needed more cash quick. Espn needed GOR

MH3‏@MH32h
They got a rush job.

 

[jostar1]

Darn. Now we're OUT! Not even being considered! Say it an't so Dude!

I'll check in again tomorrow cuz Dude's been super busy these past few days. Things sure do change fast!

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV2h
@CizzleUofM Texas, KU, OU. UVA, VT, Mizzou, Vandy, Hou.

 

[B1GALUM]

The Dude of WV‏@theDudeofWV2h
@CizzleUofM Texas, KU, OU. UVA, VT, Mizzou, Vandy, Hou.

There are a few Boneyarders convinced that UCONN has turned down the ACC and is awaiting a "B1G"ger opportunity.

As was pointed out in a prior post, I am proud of my conference but also hope I have sufficient humility to recognize that not every university desires to be a part of the B1G.
The B1G may be "looking hard at 6-7 schools from the B12, ACC & SEC" but that does not mean these schools are receptive to overtures from the B1G.
These schools may not even be communicating with the B1G beyond a simple academic courtesy of "thanks but no thanks" from one university president to another university president or conference commissioner.
Texas could have joined the B1G prior to the Big XII GOR but chose not to join.
Kansas could have joined the B1G prior to the Big XII GOR but chose not to join and/or the B1G was not interested and/or could not leave KSU.
Virginia could have voted against the increase of the ACC exit fee and joined the B1G prior to the ACC GOR but did not join.
OU and Virginia Tech both signed the GOR for their respective conferences.
Vanderbilt could join the B1G at any time but has given no indication to date that it desires membership and is a founding member of the SEC.
The B1G has already passed on Mizzou. Perhaps the B1G would re-consider but as posted before would Mizzou even be willing to join the B1G.
The B1G may want to go past 14 t0 16 schools with two of the specific schools mentioned but just because the B1G wants it does not mean it will happen.
I hope the B1G recognizes that UConn would fit quite well with the conference's goal of expansion to the East, proximity to NYC, providing content for BTN as well as winning championships (UConn basketball anyone?) and that a "B1G"ger opportunity does come your way.

 

[UConn Dan]

Thanks. MH3 et al. provide a fun read at times but ... a "preliminary GOR"? Even the Dude of WV is calling him out on that one.

There was a CBS Jeremy Fowler article that on June 5 had said that the GOR was not officially signed and only agreed to in principal (I had posted it on the ACC thread on that date, but I paraphrased -- should have copied and pasted in retrospect). It's since been edited. I wish I had a screenshot of it. It's likely that someone in the ACC made them remove that language.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...3/acc-network-still-in-early-stageswhats-next

 

[billybud]

The ACC released a press release saying that the GOR had been signed by the Presidents of all 15 members.

 

[Fairfield 1st]

The ACC released a press release saying that the GOR had been signed by the Presidents of all 15 members.

Notre Dame signed a GOR for it non FB sports???

 

[SubbaBub]

The ACC released a press release saying that the GOR had been signed by the Presidents of all 15 members.

They signed a piece of paper with the letters GOR on it?

I have no inside info on what was signed or not signed, what it said or didn't say.

I do have some pause that the people in the room that day were able to agree on a detailed 12+ years of commitment and that all delegation had someone present with the authority to do so on such short notice. It's highly irregular in the business world and less likely in academia. They may have agreed in principle subject to the final draft.

They may have said sign this so ESPN will increase our deal, but it's only binding for a year. At the time the sharks were circling the ACC, a GOR announcement of any sort could have been used as a cooling off for anyone thinking of leaving in a panic. Like they did in the BE.

Unless someone has read the GOR, it is a possibility that it isn't as binding as some would believe.

 

[billybud]

A lot of things are possible...but unlikely. It is far more possible that it is what it was declared to be...a signed GOR, effective immediately, and binding until 2027.

Notre Dame did sign the GOR for its non football sports...and signed a binding contract to play five football games a year with ACC members. That contract also spelled oput the bowl participation and the payment that would be due to the Irish for their max two Orange Bowl appearances.

 

[billybud]

They signed a piece of paper with the letters GOR on it?

I have no inside info on what was signed or not signed, what it said or didn't say.

I do have some pause that the people in the room that day were able to agree on a detailed 12+ years of commitment and that all delegation had someone present with the authority to do so on such short notice. It's highly irregular in the business world and less likely in academia. They may have agreed in principle subject to the final draft.

They may have said sign this so ESPN will increase our deal, but it's only binding for a year. At the time the sharks were circling the ACC, a GOR announcement of any sort could have been used as a cooling off for anyone thinking of leaving in a panic. Like they did in the BE.

Unless someone has read the GOR, it is a possibility that it isn't as binding as some would believe.

Swofford came down to FSU and met, individually, with BOG members to explain things (individually to avoid Gov't in Sunshine law that governs group meetings). During FSU's spring game, Swofford quietly met with FSU Booster leaders.

Swofford also met with Virginia's board..and took along the ACC legal counsel. The next very day, Swofford convened a conference call with the ACC Presidents to approve the GOR. It was approved April 18, sent out for quick review and signature..and the ACC announced on April 22.

 

[SubbaBub]

Swofford came down to FSU and met, individually, with BOG members to explain things (individually to avoid Gov't in Sunshine law that governs group meetings). During FSU's spring game, Swofford quietly met with FSU Booster leaders.

Swofford also met with Virginia's board..and took along the ACC legal counsel. The next very day, Swofford convened a conference call with the ACC Presidents to approve the GOR. It was approved April 18, sent out for quick review and signature..and the ACC announced on April 22.

I have no idea how I ended up defending someone else's conspiracies. What you say may be true, but I know how contracts work and as someone who knew the Rowland/Patriots contract was bogus before it was public, I can tell you that if FSU or UVA wanted a year to see how things played out, the other ACC schools would have went along with it and said nothing. The PR problem was as big if not bigger than the TV $ problem.

Unless someone has seen the contract, nothing is certain. No one involved with the ACC would admit anything until they announced a move.

 

[dayooper]

The Dude of WV ‏@theDudeofWV

1m​

B1G news coming at noon. I've been warned its not what you want to hear.

The Dude of WV ‏@theDudeofWV

1m​

Or maybe its not what I want to hear. I said the only thing that would shock me would be that its Pitt.

For what it's worth

 

[gwhuskyfan]

The Dude of WV ‏@theDudeofWV

1m​

B1G news coming at noon. I've been warned its not what you want to hear.

The Dude of WV ‏@theDudeofWV

1m​

Or maybe its not what I want to hear. I said the only thing that would shock me would be that its Pitt.

For what it's worth

I tweeted at him asking if it was going to be UConn and this is what he said " I don't know yet. All I was told was that it was not a football powerhouse and that it would shock people. I'll know at noon."

 

[Point6]

If UConn gets into the B1G today, I'm flying up from DC to have a Guinness at Ted's. I also call next game of darts (if they still have a board).

 

[woomba]

Delany is supposed to announce some NYC based big ten events this week so if I had to guess he's going to use that as material for new rumors

 

[metsfan2323]

The Dude of WV ‏@theDudeofWV

1m​

B1G news coming at noon. I've been warned its not what you want to hear.

The Dude of WV ‏@theDudeofWV

1m​

at noon his mom is finally going to throw him out of the house.

 

[billybud]

I have no idea how I ended up defending someone else's conspiracies. What you say may be true, but I know how contracts work and as someone who knew the Rowland/Patriots contract was bogus before it was public, I can tell you that if FSU or UVA wanted a year to see how things played out, the other ACC schools would have went along with it and said nothing. The PR problem was as big if not bigger than the TV $ problem.

Unless someone has seen the contract, nothing is certain. No one involved with the ACC would admit anything until they announced a move.

I haven't seen the contract and it is my belief that very few actually have. The FSU BOT, I know, never had a glimpse of the media contract. I worked at FSU before I retired and at one time reviewed many contracts. I did leave when the former President left (although I consulted on contract with FSU for a year) and there are probably many procedural changes. One thing sure, none of my former work compatriots are dumb enough to jeopardize their career by gossiping over a beer.

 

[Greenback]

If UConn gets into the B1G today, I'm flying up from DC to have a Guinness at Ted's. I also call next game of darts (if they still have a board).

Capcom Bowling was a good backup game.

 

[UConn9604]

I tweeted at him asking if it was going to be UConn and this is what he said " I don't know yet. All I was told was that it was not a football powerhouse and that it would shock people. I'll know at noon."

It's past noon. What's the news, which is the non-football powerhouse and why should I be shocked?

 

[UConn Dan]

Noon central?

 

[Chin Diesel]

Noon central?

Noon central. October 32, 2034

 

[UConn Dan]

This is all I see... they are teaming up with USA Football... realignment is over.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9579163/big-ten-usa-football-start-safety-promotion

 

[Stinger92860]

I tweeted at him asking if it was going to be UConn and this is what he said " I don't know yet. All I was told was that it was not a football powerhouse and that it would shock people. I'll know at noon."

Which time zone? Lol

 

[Chuck]

Dude: "Come on guys, you told me that if I picked up sandwiches at Subway you had some info for me. I've told everyone that I had big news."

The Dude's Insider(s): "Really, Dude, we've got big info for you, but you only got us 6 inch subs. We specifically said footlongs. You pick up the tab at AppleBees tomorrow and we'll give you the info."

Dude: "Really?! Okay, I don't have that kind of cash, but maybe I can get my mom's credit card while she's out [add in a West Virginia reference]."

 

[Jaichim24]

This is all I see... they are teaming up with USA Football... realignment is over.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9579163/big-ten-usa-football-start-safety-promotion

Isn't one of our new centers dedicated to player safety/concussions/dehydration and it was going to be "THE" place for all things related to that and NCAA football? If so, the above means that the B1G is also going to invite UConn to demonstrate their new commitment to player safety!!! Yes, you heard it here first folks!!

 

[metsfan2323]

It's past noon. What's the news, which is the non-football powerhouse and why should I be shocked?

The bag of wind said "it must be for hockey only" which means he is hinting at UMASS.

Will everyone please realize this guy is a fraud and stop posting his garbage.

 

[huskymedic]

Will everyone please realize this guy is a fraud and stop posting his garbage.

No more - no less than some people who continue to be allowed to post here....

Wait - but you are following him?

theDudeofWV 1:12pm via Web
I really can't tell you the name of the school I just received. I have a hard time accepting it.

theDudeofWV 1:12pm via Web
Must be for hockey only.

Edit add:

theDudeofWV 2:06pm via Web
@KyleMackeyCincy I really thought it would be UCONN. It's not. This school isn't even AAU.


I'm devastated

 

[huskypantz]

at noon his mom is finally going to throw him out of the house.

You are today's winner of the internets.

 

[Dooley]

Well, whatever the big news was it crashed CBS' NCAA FB page!

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball

 

[kyleslamb]

First, it's worth noting, that just because the ACC issues a press release on something doesn't make it so. The job of a PR person is to make the public think something in particular. While I would doubt that they'd outright lie about a Grant of Rights being signed when it hasn't been, just because the ACC says it's been signed does not automatically mean it has. I actually believe it has been signed, but I'm just taking issue with the "it's done, the ACC issued a press release" logic.

Nonetheless, I won't bother to point out that legally, despite what has been said to the contrary, a Grant of Rights to any entity for a period of time would be expected to compensate the grantor for those rights. In Notre Dame's case, they're only giving up 2-3 home football games a year to the league, so they would have an easier time leaving for another conference as they could still be very valuable to another conference even before litigating for compensation of those games.