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Kolumbo said:
Very true. ND is still a national football brand somehow. My take regarding the knock against ND is different though. At this point every program looks out first for its own self interests. No one cares about their conference mates if a better opportunity comes along. UConn certainly doesn't. ND is a unique situation because the guilty programs are the enablers. The Big East. The ACC. and now even the Big Ten with hockey. They have been enabling ND by allowing ND to suck their teets without buying the cow. Let ND's olympic programs flap away in independence and things would change.
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Nobody wants to piss off ND because they all want to keep the idea of ND being the final crown jewel to join their conference alive.

If the ACC becomes DOA, it will be interesting to see where ND goes next. My guess is Big 12 because they don’t have same leverage as P2. Maybe they go back to Big East.

SEC and Big 10 aren’t going to let ND join and keep FB independence.
 
uconnyankee said:
Nobody wants to piss off ND because they all want to keep the idea of ND being the final crown jewel to join their conference alive.

If the ACC becomes DOA, it will be interesting to see where ND goes next. My guess is Big 12 because they don’t have same leverage as P2. Maybe they go back to Big East.

SEC and Big 10 aren’t going to let ND join and keep FB independence.
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Big East. It pays well for basketball only and ND is a better fit there. I don’t see ND wanting to play at Kansas St, Baylor and OK St on a regular basis. Georgetown, PC and Villanova are much more their demographic. Add big games against UConn, NYC city games against SJU and some games in Chicago, Indy and Milwaukee, where they have tons of fans, and it seems like a no brainer. You’d see ND improve in Olympic sports in the Big East and the Big East would benefit as well.
 
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Hoophound said:
pays well for basketball only
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Does it? I'm not so sure about that if you prorate for contracts and assigned say 20% for basketball, I think they're better.
 
Hoophound said:
Big East. It pays well for basketball only and ND is a better fit there. I don’t see ND wanting to play at Kansas St, Baylor and OK St on a regular basis. Georgetown, PC and Villanova are much more their demographic. Add big games against UConn, NYC city games against SJU and some games in Chicago, Indy and Milwaukee, where they have tons of fans, and it seems like a no brainer. You’d see ND improve in Olympic sports in the Big East and the Big East would benefit as well.
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Possible…. But don’t forget ACC also provides ND football some benefits: scheduling and bowl access.

I also think ND would be a great add for BE and if we’re stuck here, not bad to have them in conference. Might help UConn fb schedule.
 
I did a review of ND budget a few years ago
They were making about $20,000,000 from their old media deal back then
With a sold group of donors contributing $150,000,000 a year
That group thinks ND should stay independent for a number of years
guess what you stay independent .
Remember the golden rule , those that provide the gold make the rules
 
AZHuskiePop said:
I did a review of ND budget a few years ago
They were making about $20,000,000 from their old media deal back then
With a sold group of donors contributing $150,000,000 a year
That group thinks ND should stay independent for a number of years
guess what you stay independent .
Remember the golden rule , those that provide the gold make the rules
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Is the $150,000,000 just the football donors or all donors?
 
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CL82 said:
Does it? I'm not so sure about that if you prorate for contracts and assigned say 20% for basketball, I think they're better.
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uconnyankee said:
Possible…. But don’t forget ACC also provides ND football some benefits: scheduling and bowl access.

I also think ND would be a great add for BE and if we’re stuck here, not bad to have them in conference. Might help UConn fb schedule.
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I’m talking about if the ACC gets ripped apart. I don’t think the B12 would be very appealing to ND.
 
Hoophound said:
I’m talking about if the ACC gets ripped apart. I don’t think the B12 would be very appealing to ND.
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Agreed. If the ACC is ripped apart, that will force ND's hand and they will go to the B1G if the slot that is being held for them is still there.
 
uconnyankee said:
Nobody wants to piss off ND because they all want to keep the idea of ND being the final crown jewel to join their conference alive.

If the ACC becomes DOA, it will be interesting to see where ND goes next. My guess is Big 12 because they don’t have same leverage as P2. Maybe they go back to Big East.

SEC and Big 10 aren’t going to let ND join and keep FB independence.
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I think the bigger the conferences get, the less valuable ND becomes, just my opinion. And if the ACC gets ripped apart, it will depend on which valuable programs went where and who remains. I think it would be more likely the ACC survives in some form rather than ND going to the Big East, even though the Big East might be a better fit. it will be a fight between the Big 12 and ACC.
 
Kolumbo said:
I think the bigger the conferences get, the less valuable ND becomes, just my opinion. And if the ACC gets ripped apart, it will depend on which valuable programs went where and who remains. I think it would be more likely the ACC survives in some form rather than ND going to the Big East, even though the Big East might be a better fit. it will be a fight between the Big 12 and ACC.
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Why would Notre Dame put their olympic sports in a midmajor conference? The ACC in any form will keep them. UConn would leave the Big East in a heartbeat if offered.
 
CL82 said:
Or has it been consistently courting ND?

(Though I've said this before, Notre Dame has done an outstanding job carving out a niche for itself. For a small university to occupy such a big place in the national athletics consciousness is a really big deal. My only knock against ND is that they look after their own interests, and not necessarily their conference partners. Now, to be clear, they have no obligation to look after anyone else, but that's something to be aware of anytime you are involved with them. Even with that, though, being involved with them typically is better than not, at least for a while. I am a begrudging fan of their administration. )
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"Consistently courting" someone incessantly when that someone always says "No" and is not interested at all is creepy.
 
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TerryD1957 said:
"Consistently courting" someone incessantly when that someone always says "No" and is not interested at all is creepy.
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Sure, if you're talking about an individual, particularly a teenage girl, but less so if you're talking about a multimillion dollar organization.
 
TerryD1957 said:
"Consistently courting" someone incessantly when that someone always says "No" and is not interested at all is creepy.
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That's true... In the case of Notre Dame, they already are a member of the Big10 hockey conference and are even written into the Big10's media deal in terms of a valuation if/when they were to become a full member. I'm sure they're talking to each other all the time.
 
RSTuthill said:
Agreed. If the ACC is ripped apart, that will force ND's hand and they will go to the B1G if the slot that is being held for them is still there.
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It will not.

People continually misunderstand where Notre Dame fits into the world.

They fit in wherever they want.
 
Fishy said:
They fit in wherever they want
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As long as they have their NBC deal, they are pretty much immune to any conference realignment pressure.
 
CL82 said:
As long as they have their NBC deal, they are pretty much immune to any conference realignment pressure.
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Right now, I would say that it is more likely that someone like Michigan would leave the Big Ten to attempt the Notre Dame life than it is that Notre Dame will buckle down and join a conference. (Neither are very likely.)
 
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