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Numerous ACC schools will have a place to go. UNC and UVA will have their pick of the SEC or Big Ten. There may be others that get invited to join those two conferences as well, depending on what happens with UNC and UVA (see below). The next most desireable remaining ACC programs will have major interest from the Big 12.

To me, the key for UConn and many other schools is whether UVA and UNC go to the SEC or Big Ten. What is likely best for UConn is those two schools choosing the Big Ten, and I think that as we approach 2029, the major elected officials in CT should reach out to their counterparts in VA and NC to explain why it is in their states' interests for their respective flagship schools to choose the Big Ten over the SEC.

If UVA and UNC choose the SEC, it is extremely unlikely that the Big Ten would invite VA Tech or NC St (for numerous reasons including lack of AAU membership). In other words, both VA Tech and NC St- each a major public university- would NOT get into one of the two superconferences. Additionally, it is not even clear whether those two schools would get into the Big 12, which is likely to become the clear-cut third best conference after the next realignment. With the SEC going to 18 schools and the Big Ten possibly remaining at 18, that probably means the Big 12 would add two schools to get to 18, and I suspect they would take Florida State and possibly Clemson over VA Tech and NC St. It is possible that the Big Ten goes to 20 schools (possibly prompting the Big 12 to go to 20 as well) by adding Stanford and Cal or maybe Miami and Florida State but it's far from a given, making it a legitimate possibility that VA Tech and/or NC St end up in the fourth best conference.

Meanwhile, If UVA and UNC choose the Big Ten, it is likely that VA Tech and NC St get invited to join the SEC, since the SEC can expand its territory and doesn't want to concede southern states to its main rival conference. In other words, UVA and UNC joining the Big Ten makes it likely that both of the major schools in each state end up in a superconference. Considering the huge gaps in revenue between the two superconferences and the ACC that already exist and will be even larger once the ACC gets raided, it would clearly be a substantial financial benefit to the states of VA and NC to ensure that each of their two main universities end up in a superconference.

Our major elected officials should point this out to the major elected officials in VA and NC because it would also increase UConn's chances of getting into the Big 12, which would be preferable to the ACC since that conference may not even be a power conference after the upcoming realignment and at a minimum will clearly be behind the Big 12. Here is why it helps our chances:

1- It increases the chances that the SEC expands to 20 teams, which in turn will likely prompt the Big 12 to expand to 20 teams, meaning there are more available slots. With the Big Ten having added schools in VA and NC, the SEC will need to seriously consider some defensive additions (Florida State and possibly Georgia Tech) to prevent the Big Ten from possibly taking those schools and expanding into the SEC's already limited geographical footprint.

2- It greatly reduces the chances of Stanford and Cal getting into the Big Ten (since they'll already be at 20), which may provide an opening for us to be school #20 in the Big 12. There will likely be between 54-60 slots in three biggest conferences, depending on whether some/all of them end up at 18 or 20 teams. Right now, I believe we are school #62 if Stanford and Cal get in but #60 if they do not get in.

Schools almost certainly ahead of us in the pecking order (9): UVA, VA Tech, UNC, NC St, Florida St, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, and probably Duke.

Schools possibly ahead of us in the pecking order (2): Stanford and Cal. If they get in, that pushes us out of the top 60, meaning we won't get into the Big 12 unless at least one of the conferences goes beyond 20.

Here is the most likely scenario where we could get into the Big 12:
-Big Ten goes to 20 by adding UVA and UNC.
-SEC goes to 20 by adding VA Tech, NC St, Florida St, and Georgia Tech (which gets added since they need a 20th team and to prevent the Big Ten from getting into the Atlanta market).
-Big 12 goes to 20 by adding Miami, Clemson, Duke, and ?? We would probably be the most attractive remaining option for the 20th and final slot in this scenario. It would also balance out the Big 12's additions with two football schools and two basketball schools.

ESPN decides who goes where and who gets left out. They control the purse strings, and thus control realignment.

 

[UConnJim]

ESPN decides who goes where and who gets left out. They control the purse strings, and thus control realignment.

I think ESPN's grip on college sports is loosening. For example, the Big 10 and ESPN have no broadcasting relationship so possible Big 10 expansion will not be impacted by ESPN. And, you have many other companies grabbing sports rights as well. If/when college sports go streaming, the economics totally change as it will be possible to pay schools individually based on school subscribers or views. Why should Rutgers and Ohio St. be paid the same by the Big 10?

 

[jostar1]

 

[Kolumbo]

and i think our old friends USF would be 5th 0.808. We are at 0.788 if we use the basketball conference record.

Football 9-4
Basketball 17-3, 27-4

 

[Platt81]

Except this is based on conference wins only, so technically we’d be 0-0 in football. It’s the same reason Notre Dame isn’t on this list.

 

[greenday61892]

Except this is based on conference wins only, so technically we’d be 0-0 in football. It’s the same reason Notre Dame isn’t on this list.

No ND isn't on this list because their basketball conference record was trash.

 

[Stinger92860]

Except this is based on conference wins only, so technically we’d be 0-0 in football. It’s the same reason Notre Dame isn’t on this list.

Not true, we were 2-1 in the ACC

 

[TerryD1957]

Notre Dame talks about being rejected by the B1G 100 years ago as a reason not to join.

"Some things you just don't forget."----I like this quote.

Yep, not just the rejection four times, but the boycott/blackball led by Michigan to try to smother ND's program.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Not true, we were 2-1 in the ACC

Defeated ACC champion dook, and 2 defeats of ACC schools in 3 games versus fsu’s 2 wins in 8 ACC games.

 

[CL82]

"Some things you just don't forget."----I like this quote.

Yep, not just the rejection four times, but the boycott/blackball led by Michigan to try to smother ND's program.

I was actually referring to this country's bloody Civil War, but, yeah Notre Dame getting blackballed by the Big Ten was pretty serious too, I guess.

 

[Ldandy]

"Some things you just don't forget."----I like this quote.

Yep, not just the rejection four times, but the boycott/blackball led by Michigan to try to smother ND's program.

Unless you’re a vampire who’s been alive for over a century, nobody else on Earth right now gives a **** about the politicking of Fielding Yost from back in the leather helmet days.

In 2026 and for at least the last 40 years before that, ND has simply done what was in their own best financial interest. For decades they’ve controlled their schedule and made top dollar through their own TV deal. It worked for them, so there was no pressure to do anything.

Could that change in the future? Maybe maybe not. However if they find themselves facing a major financial disparity or a lack of relevance related to scheduling, the actions of a dumb *** racist from 125+ years ago won’t stop them from joining The B1G. They’ll do what is in their best interest as they’ve always done.

 

[CL82]

Unless you’re a vampire who’s been alive for over a century

 

[TerryD1957]

Unless you’re a vampire who’s been alive for over a century, nobody else on Earth right now gives a **** about the politicking of Fielding Yost from back in the leather helmet days.

In 2026 and for at least the last 40 years before that, ND has simply done what was in their own best financial interest. For decades they’ve controlled their schedule and made top dollar through their own TV deal. It worked for them, so there was no pressure to do anything.

Could that change in the future? Maybe maybe not. However if they find themselves facing a major financial disparity or a lack of relevance related to scheduling, the actions of a dumb *** racist from 125+ years ago won’t stop them from joining The B1G. They’ll do what is in their best interest as they’ve always done.

But he was still a Michigan bigot regardless of when it was.

Trying to organize a boycott to smother the program in the crib is not something ND fans will ever forget, sorry.

The Big Ten has always been a stalker trying to destroy ND's football independence and force it to join against its will.

That is not 100 years ago, it was thirty years, twenty years, ten years ago and today. The Big Ten has always been the Evil Empire, and always will be.

If ND has to ever join a conference, let it be the SEC instead.

 

[ZooCougar]

But he was still a Michigan bigot regardless of when it was.

Trying to organize a boycott to smother the program in the crib is not something ND fans will ever forget, sorry.

The Big Ten has always been a stalker trying to destroy ND's football independence and force it to join against its will.

That is not 100 years ago, it was thirty years, twenty years, ten years ago and today. The Big Ten has always been the Evil Empire, and always will be.

If ND has to ever join a conference, let it be the SEC instead.

The world would be better off without Notre Dame. I wish Michigan had held a pillow over your face.

 

[Waquoit]

Notre Dame is just exhausting.

 

[KryHavok]

Notre Dame is just exhausting.

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OMFG, they hare hysterical. They actually think their supposed titles from 1927 and 1936 are meaningful. Careful ND, the Father doesn't like when we lie and brag, He might smote your shiny golden dome heads.

 

[CL82]

OMFG, they hare hysterical. They actually think their supposed titles from 1927 and 1936 are meaningful. Careful ND, the Father doesn't like when we lie and brag, He might smote your shiny golden dome heads.

That totally sounds plausible as a statement by ND. 'Sure we finished 13–18, but of course you would want us in the NCAA tournament anyway. Thus, for the good of mankind, we will withdraw our name from consideration for a tournament bid.'

 

[pj]

Notre Dame talks about being rejected by the B1G 100 years ago as a reason not to join.

That was back when Notre Dame was Catholic. No longer an issue.

 

[Waquoit]

OMFG, they hare hysterical. They actually think their supposed titles from 1927 and 1936 are meaningful. Careful ND, the Father doesn't like when we lie and brag, He might smote your shiny golden dome heads.

(It might be a fake)

 

[Ha Who]

(It might be a fake)

It is but very funny

 

[freescooter]

Unless you’re a vampire who’s been alive for over a century, nobody else on Earth right now gives a **** about the politicking of Fielding Yost from back in the leather helmet days.

In 2026 and for at least the last 40 years before that, ND has simply done what was in their own best financial interest. For decades they’ve controlled their schedule and made top dollar through their own TV deal. It worked for them, so there was no pressure to do anything.

Could that change in the future? Maybe maybe not. However if they find themselves facing a major financial disparity or a lack of relevance related to scheduling, the actions of a dumb *** racist from 125+ years ago won’t stop them from joining The B1G. They’ll do what is in their best interest as they’ve always done.

Somehow the teams managed to put aside their differences long enough to play each other each year (maybe missed a couple) from 1978 until 2014. When they were putting 100,000 Fannie’s into Michigan Stadium or 80,000 plus into Notre Dame stadium I’m not sure that Yost’s no Catholics need apply attitude made much difference.

 

[Ldandy]

Somehow the teams managed to put aside their differences long enough to play each other each year (maybe missed a couple) from 1978 until 2014. When they were putting 100,000 Fannie’s into Michigan Stadium or 80,000 plus into Notre Dame stadium I’m not sure that Yost’s no Catholics need apply attitude made much difference.

It didn’t stop ND from joining the BIGgot 10 Hockey Conference when it made financial sense either. Terry’s History Lesson is something that their fans tell themselves to feel better about the school continuing to act wholly in their own best interest. The thing is I don’t blame them. Do it as long as you can get away with it I suppose, but understand a day may be coming when your current circumstances are turned on their head.

 

[RSTuthill]

It didn’t stop ND from joining the BIGgot 10 Hockey Conference when it made financial sense either. Terry’s History Lesson is something that their fans tell themselves to feel better about the school continuing to act wholly in their own best interest. The thing is I don’t blame them. Do it as long as you can get away with it I suppose, but understand a day may be coming when your current circumstances are turned on their head.

Yup, one bad coaching hire and a couple years of losing will induce a change in attitude.

 

[TerryD1957]

The world would be better off without Notre Dame. I wish Michigan had held a pillow over your face.

It tried mightily...and failed.

 

[TerryD1957]

It didn’t stop ND from joining the BIGgot 10 Hockey Conference when it made financial sense either. Terry’s History Lesson is something that their fans tell themselves to feel better about the school continuing to act wholly in their own best interest. The thing is I don’t blame them. Do it as long as you can get away with it I suppose, but understand a day may be coming when your current circumstances are turned on their head.

Are you saying that the Big Ten has not been stalking ND for decades, trying to "checkmate" ND, destroy its independence and force it to join that conference vfor football against its will?


Whew! Great news. What a relief.......

 

[Ldandy]

Are you saying that the Big Ten has not been stalking ND for decades, trying to "checkmate" ND, destroy its independence and force it to join that conference vfor football against its will?


Whew! Great news. What a relief.......

Everyone acts in their own self interest is all that I said and it’s all that I’ll continue to say. Its been in the best interest of The B1G financially to try to get ND Football to join the conference since at least the early 90’s. Apparently it is still in the overall best interest for ND to piggyback on The ACC so they continue to do so. That said, a day is coming where being independent will no longer make financial sense. At that point decisions will be made with a mind on the next 100 years not the prior. Maybe they do go to The SEC, but it won’t be because of a turd who coached football when people were driving a Model T.

 

[CL82]

Are you saying that the Big Ten has not been stalking ND for decades, trying to "checkmate" ND, destroy its independence and force it to join that conference vfor football against its will?


Whew! Great news. What a relief.......

Or has it been consistently courting ND?

(Though I've said this before, Notre Dame has done an outstanding job carving out a niche for itself. For a small university to occupy such a big place in the national athletics consciousness is a really big deal. My only knock against ND is that they look after their own interests, and not necessarily their conference partners. Now, to be clear, they have no obligation to look after anyone else, but that's something to be aware of anytime you are involved with them. Even with that, though, being involved with them typically is better than not, at least for a while. I am a begrudging fan of their administration. )

 

[Pat125]

Are you saying that the Big Ten has not been stalking ND for decades, trying to "checkmate" ND, destroy its independence and force it to join that conference vfor football against its will?


Whew! Great news. What a relief.......

Actually, even with the PA laced sarcasm, it is great news. So somehow against all great odds, ND was able to maintain their remaining pseudo-independence. Yet, somehow, they were forced to join men’s hockey as an associate of the Big Ten. Go figure.

I’m not sure what level of stalking, or more like pathetic embarrassment, the Big Ten used to try to get ND to join Big Ten in full. But somehow, ND easily withstood it. In any case, I don’t endorse the Big Ten playing the “well, we’re the Big Ten” card. Just as I’m sure you thought it was wrong when ND played the “well, we’re Notre Dame” card with their former OBE conference mates. While many of these latter memories are still fairly recent, even the ghost of Fielding Yost is long gone. Enjoy the quasi-independence and stop blaming others for it. Or continue to, if that is part of the pointless, but somehow valued, tradition. In the meantime, you may want to respect the view of those on this board who felt stung by Notre Dame.

 

[Kolumbo]

Or has it been consistently courting ND?

(Though I've said this before, Notre Dame has done an outstanding job carving out a niche for itself. For a small university to occupy such a big place in the national athletics consciousness is a really big deal. My only knock against ND is that they look after their own interests, and not necessarily their conference partners. Now, to be clear, they have no obligation to look after anyone else, but that's something to be aware of anytime you are involved with them. Even with that, though, being involved with them typically is better than not, at least for a while. I am a begrudging fan of their administration. )

Very true. ND is still a national football brand somehow. My take regarding the knock against ND is different though. At this point every program looks out first for its own self interests. No one cares about their conference mates if a better opportunity comes along. UConn certainly doesn't. ND is a unique situation because the guilty programs are the enablers. The Big East. The ACC. and now even the Big Ten with hockey. They have been enabling ND by allowing ND to suck their teets without buying the cow. Let ND's olympic programs flap away in independence and things would change.

 

[TheDrifter75]

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