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buddy said:
ESPN decides who goes where and who gets left out. They control the purse strings, and thus control realignment.
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I think ESPN's grip on college sports is loosening. For example, the Big 10 and ESPN have no broadcasting relationship so possible Big 10 expansion will not be impacted by ESPN. And, you have many other companies grabbing sports rights as well. If/when college sports go streaming, the economics totally change as it will be possible to pay schools individually based on school subscribers or views. Why should Rutgers and Ohio St. be paid the same by the Big 10?
 
Platt81 said:
Except this is based on conference wins only, so technically we’d be 0-0 in football. It’s the same reason Notre Dame isn’t on this list.
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No ND isn't on this list because their basketball conference record was trash.
 
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Rufus said:
Notre Dame talks about being rejected by the B1G 100 years ago as a reason not to join.
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"Some things you just don't forget."----I like this quote.

Yep, not just the rejection four times, but the boycott/blackball led by Michigan to try to smother ND's program.
 
TerryD1957 said:
"Some things you just don't forget."----I like this quote.

Yep, not just the rejection four times, but the boycott/blackball led by Michigan to try to smother ND's program.
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I was actually referring to this country's bloody Civil War, but, yeah Notre Dame getting blackballed by the Big Ten was pretty serious too, I guess.
 
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Ldandy said:
Unless you’re a vampire who’s been alive for over a century
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Screaming March Madness GIF by TheDreamTeam
 
TerryD1957 said:
But he was still a Michigan bigot regardless of when it was.

Trying to organize a boycott to smother the program in the crib is not something ND fans will ever forget, sorry.

The Big Ten has always been a stalker trying to destroy ND's football independence and force it to join against its will.

That is not 100 years ago, it was thirty years, twenty years, ten years ago and today. The Big Ten has always been the Evil Empire, and always will be.

If ND has to ever join a conference, let it be the SEC instead.
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The world would be better off without Notre Dame. I wish Michigan had held a pillow over your face.
 
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KryHavok said:
OMFG, they hare hysterical. They actually think their supposed titles from 1927 and 1936 are meaningful. Careful ND, the Father doesn't like when we lie and brag, He might smote your shiny golden dome heads.
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That totally sounds plausible as a statement by ND. 'Sure we finished 13–18, but of course you would want us in the NCAA tournament anyway. Thus, for the good of mankind, we will withdraw our name from consideration for a tournament bid.'
 
Rufus said:
Notre Dame talks about being rejected by the B1G 100 years ago as a reason not to join.
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That was back when Notre Dame was Catholic. No longer an issue.
 
KryHavok said:
OMFG, they hare hysterical. They actually think their supposed titles from 1927 and 1936 are meaningful. Careful ND, the Father doesn't like when we lie and brag, He might smote your shiny golden dome heads.
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(It might be a fake)
 
freescooter said:
Somehow the teams managed to put aside their differences long enough to play each other each year (maybe missed a couple) from 1978 until 2014. When they were putting 100,000 Fannie’s into Michigan Stadium or 80,000 plus into Notre Dame stadium I’m not sure that Yost’s no Catholics need apply attitude made much difference.
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It didn’t stop ND from joining the BIGgot 10 Hockey Conference when it made financial sense either. Terry’s History Lesson is something that their fans tell themselves to feel better about the school continuing to act wholly in their own best interest. The thing is I don’t blame them. Do it as long as you can get away with it I suppose, but understand a day may be coming when your current circumstances are turned on their head.
 
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Ldandy said:
It didn’t stop ND from joining the BIGgot 10 Hockey Conference when it made financial sense either. Terry’s History Lesson is something that their fans tell themselves to feel better about the school continuing to act wholly in their own best interest. The thing is I don’t blame them. Do it as long as you can get away with it I suppose, but understand a day may be coming when your current circumstances are turned on their head.
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Yup, one bad coaching hire and a couple years of losing will induce a change in attitude.
 
Ldandy said:
It didn’t stop ND from joining the BIGgot 10 Hockey Conference when it made financial sense either. Terry’s History Lesson is something that their fans tell themselves to feel better about the school continuing to act wholly in their own best interest. The thing is I don’t blame them. Do it as long as you can get away with it I suppose, but understand a day may be coming when your current circumstances are turned on their head.
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Are you saying that the Big Ten has not been stalking ND for decades, trying to "checkmate" ND, destroy its independence and force it to join that conference vfor football against its will?


Whew! Great news. What a relief.......
 
TerryD1957 said:
Are you saying that the Big Ten has not been stalking ND for decades, trying to "checkmate" ND, destroy its independence and force it to join that conference vfor football against its will?


Whew! Great news. What a relief.......
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Everyone acts in their own self interest is all that I said and it’s all that I’ll continue to say. Its been in the best interest of The B1G financially to try to get ND Football to join the conference since at least the early 90’s. Apparently it is still in the overall best interest for ND to piggyback on The ACC so they continue to do so. That said, a day is coming where being independent will no longer make financial sense. At that point decisions will be made with a mind on the next 100 years not the prior. Maybe they do go to The SEC, but it won’t be because of a turd who coached football when people were driving a Model T.
 
TerryD1957 said:
Are you saying that the Big Ten has not been stalking ND for decades, trying to "checkmate" ND, destroy its independence and force it to join that conference vfor football against its will?


Whew! Great news. What a relief.......
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Or has it been consistently courting ND?

(Though I've said this before, Notre Dame has done an outstanding job carving out a niche for itself. For a small university to occupy such a big place in the national athletics consciousness is a really big deal. My only knock against ND is that they look after their own interests, and not necessarily their conference partners. Now, to be clear, they have no obligation to look after anyone else, but that's something to be aware of anytime you are involved with them. Even with that, though, being involved with them typically is better than not, at least for a while. I am a begrudging fan of their administration. )
 
TerryD1957 said:
Are you saying that the Big Ten has not been stalking ND for decades, trying to "checkmate" ND, destroy its independence and force it to join that conference vfor football against its will?


Whew! Great news. What a relief.......
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Actually, even with the PA laced sarcasm, it is great news. So somehow against all great odds, ND was able to maintain their remaining pseudo-independence. Yet, somehow, they were forced to join men’s hockey as an associate of the Big Ten. Go figure.

I’m not sure what level of stalking, or more like pathetic embarrassment, the Big Ten used to try to get ND to join Big Ten in full. But somehow, ND easily withstood it. In any case, I don’t endorse the Big Ten playing the “well, we’re the Big Ten” card. Just as I’m sure you thought it was wrong when ND played the “well, we’re Notre Dame” card with their former OBE conference mates. While many of these latter memories are still fairly recent, even the ghost of Fielding Yost is long gone. Enjoy the quasi-independence and stop blaming others for it. Or continue to, if that is part of the pointless, but somehow valued, tradition. In the meantime, you may want to respect the view of those on this board who felt stung by Notre Dame.
 
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CL82 said:
Or has it been consistently courting ND?

(Though I've said this before, Notre Dame has done an outstanding job carving out a niche for itself. For a small university to occupy such a big place in the national athletics consciousness is a really big deal. My only knock against ND is that they look after their own interests, and not necessarily their conference partners. Now, to be clear, they have no obligation to look after anyone else, but that's something to be aware of anytime you are involved with them. Even with that, though, being involved with them typically is better than not, at least for a while. I am a begrudging fan of their administration. )
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Very true. ND is still a national football brand somehow. My take regarding the knock against ND is different though. At this point every program looks out first for its own self interests. No one cares about their conference mates if a better opportunity comes along. UConn certainly doesn't. ND is a unique situation because the guilty programs are the enablers. The Big East. The ACC. and now even the Big Ten with hockey. They have been enabling ND by allowing ND to suck their teets without buying the cow. Let ND's olympic programs flap away in independence and things would change.
 
Kolumbo said:
Very true. ND is still a national football brand somehow. My take regarding the knock against ND is different though. At this point every program looks out first for its own self interests. No one cares about their conference mates if a better opportunity comes along. UConn certainly doesn't. ND is a unique situation because the guilty programs are the enablers. The Big East. The ACC. and now even the Big Ten with hockey. They have been enabling ND by allowing ND to suck their teets without buying the cow. Let ND's olympic programs flap away in independence and things would change.
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Nobody wants to piss off ND because they all want to keep the idea of ND being the final crown jewel to join their conference alive.

If the ACC becomes DOA, it will be interesting to see where ND goes next. My guess is Big 12 because they don’t have same leverage as P2. Maybe they go back to Big East.

SEC and Big 10 aren’t going to let ND join and keep FB independence.
 
uconnyankee said:
Nobody wants to piss off ND because they all want to keep the idea of ND being the final crown jewel to join their conference alive.

If the ACC becomes DOA, it will be interesting to see where ND goes next. My guess is Big 12 because they don’t have same leverage as P2. Maybe they go back to Big East.

SEC and Big 10 aren’t going to let ND join and keep FB independence.
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Big East. It pays well for basketball only and ND is a better fit there. I don’t see ND wanting to play at Kansas St, Baylor and OK St on a regular basis. Georgetown, PC and Villanova are much more their demographic. Add big games against UConn, NYC city games against SJU and some games in Chicago, Indy and Milwaukee, where they have tons of fans, and it seems like a no brainer. You’d see ND improve in Olympic sports in the Big East and the Big East would benefit as well.
 
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Hoophound said:
pays well for basketball only
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Does it? I'm not so sure about that if you prorate for contracts and assigned say 20% for basketball, I think they're better.
 
Hoophound said:
Big East. It pays well for basketball only and ND is a better fit there. I don’t see ND wanting to play at Kansas St, Baylor and OK St on a regular basis. Georgetown, PC and Villanova are much more their demographic. Add big games against UConn, NYC city games against SJU and some games in Chicago, Indy and Milwaukee, where they have tons of fans, and it seems like a no brainer. You’d see ND improve in Olympic sports in the Big East and the Big East would benefit as well.
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Possible…. But don’t forget ACC also provides ND football some benefits: scheduling and bowl access.

I also think ND would be a great add for BE and if we’re stuck here, not bad to have them in conference. Might help UConn fb schedule.
 
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