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[Chin Diesel]

When your hot take includes "could" you aren't ever wrong.

 

[UConnJim]

I could see ND joining the Big 10 in the future. Why? The Big 10 is not just a Midwest brand anymore with the additions of Rutgers and Maryland on the East Coast and USC/UCLA/Washington/Oregon on the West Coast. Grab 2 or 3 ACC schools and you have a broad footprint. ND could play a 9 game conference schedule, Navy, and 2 other OOC games. Look at Notre Dame's all time games played: 1) Navy, 2) USC, 3) Purdue, 4) Michigan St., 5) Pitt, 6) Army, 7) Northwestern, 8) Michigan, 9) Georgia Tech, 10) Stanford, 11) Indiana, 12) Air Force

 

[billybud]

Could be why the Irish just inked a 12 year scheduling deal (outside of their ACC commitment) to play Clemson annually for 12 years. They may be bolstering their future schedule anticipating needing that annual game.

 

[Kolumbo]

If the ACC implodes many ND fans may prefer a return to the Big East Conference. A primarily Catholic conference with a few schools within driving distance and many basketball games within greater Metropolis. ND basketball may actually turn things around with regular visits to major cities and more regional competition. The only catch would be if the ugly stepchild from boston somehow convinced ND to bring it along too. I suppose cuse and bcu would be an acceptable compromise.

 

[Rufus]

Could be why the Irish just inked a 12 year scheduling deal (outside of their ACC commitment) to play Clemson annually for 12 years. They may be bolstering their future schedule anticipating needing that annual game.

When Clemson leaves the ACC, I could see them killing off this series.

 

[billybud]

Miami's AD is espousing a two level ACC, I think. Kind of wild take..

"The brands need to play each other more," Radakovich said. "That's what has to happen. Do we divide into two divisions? Who gets to play Notre Dame? How are we doing those kinds of things? And if the SEC goes to nine (conference games) we might have to go to nine as well with a bifurcated brands and non-brands [divide]."

FSU's AD seems to not be far off this....
"Today in college football, more than ever, it's important for strong brands to play strong brands," Alford said. "That helps our brand, as well as all of us within the conference. We've been consistent in that belief for a while now as you can see in our nonconference scheduling philosophy. It's important for our conference and our media partners."

 

[Purple Stein]

Miami's AD is espousing a two level ACC, I think. Kind of wild take..

"The brands need to play each other more," Radakovich said. "That's what has to happen. Do we divide into two divisions? Who gets to play Notre Dame? How are we doing those kinds of things? And if the SEC goes to nine (conference games) we might have to go to nine as well with a bifurcated brands and non-brands [divide]."

FSU's AD seems to not be far off this....
"Today in college football, more than ever, it's important for strong brands to play strong brands," Alford said. "That helps our brand, as well as all of us within the conference. We've been consistent in that belief for a while now as you can see in our nonconference scheduling philosophy. It's important for our conference and our media partners."

I know they are not proposing this, but if they are looking at a two tiered ACC, a promotion/relegation system would be wild.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Miami's AD is espousing a two level ACC, I think. Kind of wild take..

"The brands need to play each other more," Radakovich said. "That's what has to happen. Do we divide into two divisions? Who gets to play Notre Dame? How are we doing those kinds of things? And if the SEC goes to nine (conference games) we might have to go to nine as well with a bifurcated brands and non-brands [divide]."

FSU's AD seems to not be far off this....
"Today in college football, more than ever, it's important for strong brands to play strong brands," Alford said. "That helps our brand, as well as all of us within the conference. We've been consistent in that belief for a while now as you can see in our nonconference scheduling philosophy. It's important for our conference and our media partners."

This isn't a completely new idea, just a variation of a proposal Mike Tranghese (then commissioner of the Big East) made to John Swofford (then ACC commissioner) and the presidents of a few ACC schools in 2000.

He proposed that for football only the two conferences swap out some schools, the better football programs (FSU, Miami, etc.) play in an ACC football conference while the programs that aren't competitive (Rutgers, Wake, etc.) play in a Big East football conference.

This set in motion the ACC raids on the BE as a) he let everyone know the better football programs in the BE were ripe for the taking and b) he insulted half of the ACC schools by stating that they weren't capable of being competitive in football and would be better served playing in a B level conference.

 

[CL82]

This isn't a completely new idea, just a variation of a proposal Mike Tranghese (then commissioner of the Big East) made to John Swofford (then ACC commissioner) and the presidents of a few ACC schools in 2000.

He proposed that for football only the two conferences swap out some schools, the better football programs (FSU, Miami, etc.) play in an ACC football conference while the programs that aren't competitive (Rutgers, Wake, etc.) play in a Big East football conference.

This set in motion the ACC raids on the BE as a) he let everyone know the better football programs in the BE were ripe for the taking and b) he insulted half of the ACC schools by stating that they weren't capable of being competitive in football and would be better served playing in a B level conference.

Rutgers was in the ACC?

 

[Exit 4]

Miami's AD is espousing a two level ACC, I think. Kind of wild take..

"The brands need to play each other more," Radakovich said. "That's what has to happen. Do we divide into two divisions? Who gets to play Notre Dame? How are we doing those kinds of things? And if the SEC goes to nine (conference games) we might have to go to nine as well with a bifurcated brands and non-brands [divide]."

FSU's AD seems to not be far off this....
"Today in college football, more than ever, it's important for strong brands to play strong brands," Alford said. "That helps our brand, as well as all of us within the conference. We've been consistent in that belief for a while now as you can see in our nonconference scheduling philosophy. It's important for our conference and our media partners."

This makes a lot of sense. Could see the power conf grow to 20 and manage their football issues with an internal relegation system.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Rutgers was in the ACC?

Big East. It was just before Miami started assembling an unfathomable amount of talent (tail end of the Butch Davis years), Syracuse was still very solid, Va Tech started getting ranked on a regular basis, Pitt, BC and WVU were pretty good while Rutgers and Temple had difficulty with 1AA (now FCS) and we were a couple years away from joining (and in most opinions, bring the bottom of the conference down further).

Tranghese, who felt priority one was to keep a conference for the catholic schools thought that if for football only, the nine better football programs played in one conference while the remaining football schools (who he claimed didn't want to compete for a national championship; he actually said that to a group of ACC school presidents( would be in another conference.

A few months later Miami & FSU started discussing how to maximize their positions. The result was the first raid.

 

[UConnJim]

This makes a lot of sense. Could see the power conf grow to 20 and manage their football issues with an internal relegation system.

Relegation has been going on for a while. It started when the Big 8 combined with the SWC and relegated SMU, Houston, Rice, and TCU. When the ACC raided the Big East, they relegated, in the end, UConn and USF. When the Big 10 raided the Pac 12, they relegated, ultimately, Oregon St. and Washington St. And, you can say the Big 12 was relegated from a top league to a lower league with the losses of Texas A&M, Nebraska, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri. In my opinion, there will be schools lost in the ACC and then the remaining schools could be relegated.

 

[Exit 4]

Relegation has been going on for a while. It started when the Big 8 combined with the SWC and relegated SMU, Houston, Rice, and TCU. When the ACC raided the Big East, they relegated, in the end, UConn and USF. When the Big 10 raided the Pac 12, they relegated, ultimately, Oregon St. and Washington St. And, you can say the Big 12 was relegated from a top league to a lower league with the losses of Texas A&M, Nebraska, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri. In my opinion, there will be schools lost in the ACC and then the remaining schools could be relegated.

I’m thinking of something different. Have an 18 to 22 school conference and for football set the conf schedule every year with a system that has a group A and group B, The A schools play only each other and are given exclusive access to the CFB playoffs and top bowls. The B group plays each other and only get access to the middling and lower bowls. The bottom 3 or 4 of the A group swop with the top 4 of the B at the end of each season.

The system could be run a lot of ways, but the basic idea is that a conf would be in a better position under this structure to add a school like UConn to the B1G or even UConn to the ACC. Interesting to me that Miami and FSU mentioned this idea. Hmmmm.

 

[uconnyankee]

Miami's AD is espousing a two level ACC, I think. Kind of wild take..

"The brands need to play each other more," Radakovich said. "That's what has to happen. Do we divide into two divisions? Who gets to play Notre Dame? How are we doing those kinds of things? And if the SEC goes to nine (conference games) we might have to go to nine as well with a bifurcated brands and non-brands [divide]."

FSU's AD seems to not be far off this....
"Today in college football, more than ever, it's important for strong brands to play strong brands," Alford said. "That helps our brand, as well as all of us within the conference. We've been consistent in that belief for a while now as you can see in our nonconference scheduling philosophy. It's important for our conference and our media partners."

On this logic, MLB should just put Yankees and Dodgers in WS every year. Let Boston, Cleveland, and Detroit play in a fall series and give them a fake trophy.

This is nothing more than schools trying to create more advantages for success at the expense of others, ie a money grab.

it erodes the product and isn’t good for the game long term.

 

[billybud]

It is the networks...the TV slots... that are driving the money bus. And ultimately how one's team fares in viewing.

I do not have ESPN Plus, thus won't see UConn-Cuse.

Texas-San Jose St..... Duke-llinois....NC State-Virginia... will be on during that time slot on ABC, ESPN, ESPN2...and Iowa-Iowa State on Fox.

Two teams in the New York market, and the game is on ESPN+. The networks basically decide who America watches on Saturday...if there has been, or will be, relegation...the networks are deeply involved.