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[CL82]

please never post a Clay Travis tweet in here again

Mmmm...

No.

(Though I have no idea who the guy is or why he got your knickers in a bunch.)

 

[UConnJim]

Will ESPN follow their Big East model and bankroll the transfer of a few key pieces to other properties they own so that they can lowball the leftover schools?

Yes.

Sure, ESPN can try to concentrate properties, but I don't think they can lowball conferences anymore as there is too much competition. When the Big East was raided, you really needed ESPN as your media partner. No more. There are plenty of other media options and more companies are targeting sports as their lifeline as we move to streaming. For college football, we now have NBC, CBS, TNT, FOX, ESPN/ABC, Peacock, ... And we have Amazon and Netflix with some NFL rights.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Sure, ESPN can try to concentrate properties, but I don't think they can lowball conferences anymore as there is too much competition. When the Big East was raided, you really needed ESPN as your media partner. No more. There are plenty of other media options and more companies are targeting sports as their lifeline as we move to streaming. For college football, we now have NBC, CBS, TNT, FOX, ESPN/ABC, Peacock, ... And we have Amazon and Netflix with some NFL rights.

Don't disagree with your points and I think my point stands because ESPN won't have the will nor wallet to do anything other than lowball the remnant ACC. Unfortunately, that might be where we land. Time will tell.

 

[Exit 4]

For UConn the tough votes will be SMU (they will want Tulane/Memphis/USF/UNLV), CalFord (travel regerts) and of course FSU/Clemson.

While FSU/Clemson might not have pure veto rights on any ACC expansion, they will need their ring kissed and a big slice of the marginal pie for the blessing.

 

[Kolumbo]

Sure, ESPN can try to concentrate properties, but I don't think they can lowball conferences anymore as there is too much competition. When the Big East was raided, you really needed ESPN as your media partner. No more. There are plenty of other media options and more companies are targeting sports as their lifeline as we move to streaming. For college football, we now have NBC, CBS, TNT, FOX, ESPN/ABC, Peacock, ... And we have Amazon and Netflix with some NFL rights.

You are probably right but I thought it would actually go the other way. espn and fox are the biggest players and now that they have the P2 cartel, the media partners can actually let the bubble burst. The gravy train is coming to an end. I suppose it depends on how hi the competition is willing to go but espn and fox may not see a need to keep going higher if no one else is in a position to match.

 

[CL82]

Sure, ESPN can try to concentrate properties, but I don't think they can lowball conferences anymore as there is too much competition. When the Big East was raided, you really needed ESPN as your media partner. No more. There are plenty of other media options and more companies are targeting sports as their lifeline as we move to streaming. For college football, we now have NBC, CBS, TNT, FOX, ESPN/ABC, Peacock, ... And we have Amazon and Netflix with some NFL rights.

That presumes that the ACC stripped of its best properties continues to hold the same value, which is unlikely. So that post departure "low ball" figure might simply be the new FMV of the property. If it feels better, you can say that the the market will adjust to the post departure value of the remaining schools, which will no longer be artificially inflated by a handful of high value schools.

 

[LetsGoUC]

I highly doubt the ACC would another team but who knows. I do know if they do, it won't be us.

 

[KryHavok]

For UConn the tough votes will be SMU (they will want Tulane/Memphis/USF/UNLV), CalFord (travel regerts) and of course FSU/Clemson.

I think it's more dire than that...short of maybe getting 4 warm votes, I can't see even half the all cretins crew voting for UConn, at least not based on the current membership. They've shown their true colors when it comes to us...they are not in our future and shouldn't be seen as a panacea for our conference woes.

 

[Exit 4]

I think it's more dire than that...short of maybe getting 4 warm votes, I can't see even half the all cretins crew voting for UConn, at least not based on the current membership. They've shown their true colors when it comes to us...they are not in our future and shouldn't be seen as a panacea for our conference woes.

I'm hearing the situation with all our old BE turn ACC foes has changed. We have many of the votes we need, but not all of them. Work in progress.

 

[CL82]

I'm hearing the situation with all our old BE turn ACC foes has changed. We have many of the votes we need, but not all of them. Work in progress.

I'm hearing the same thing! Of course, my source is my neighbor's dog Sam. He hasn't been right yet but I figure he's due.

 

[baggerbob]

I'm hearing the situation with all our old BE turn ACC foes has changed. We have many of the votes we need, but not all of them. Work in progress.

Look if the ACC took a vote and UCONN had enough votes to get in and FSU, and Clemson said no, and Notre Dame said you better let them in. Who do you think wins? My bet would be on Notre Dame.

 

[Vowelguy]

I'm hearing the situation with all our old BE turn ACC foes has changed. We have many of the votes we need, but not all of them. Work in progress.

Was it Churchill who said “ you can always count on the Americans to do the right thing. After they’ve exhausted every other option.” ?

I think similarly of the ACC inviting UConn .

 

[Exit 4]

Look if the ACC took a vote and UCONN had enough votes to get in and FSU, and Clemson said no, and Notre Dame said you better let them in. Who do you think wins? My bet would be on Notre Dame.

I have no idea in that scenario.

If a UConn invite does happen before 2031, its all for the 9 game scheduling first and foremost. A secondary reason would be the northern flank of the ACC would like to have us.

Now we have been at this juncture before and we have seen it all happen; Louisville taking our seat, AZ/AZ state/UT taking our seat, and the B12 heavy flirts last August. Anything can happen this fall...including another Charlie Brown moment. And that moment could be just a simple conclusion by the ACC that they would rather jerry rig a 9 game football schedule for the balance of the decade than make a new club member.

Sure would be nice to play some kick butt football this Sept.

 

[Exit 4]

Was it Churchill who said “ you can always count on the Americans to do the right thing. After they’ve exhausted every other option.” ?

I think similarly of the ACC inviting UConn .

Churchill didnt have FSU/Clem/Cal/Stan in the room.

 

[Vowelguy]

. A secondary reason would be the northern flank of the ACC would like to have us.

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Lol
Bc and Cuse have long been against. They ain’t flipping until the ACC is on its death bed.

 

[LetsGoUC]

I have no idea in that scenario.

If a UConn invite does happen before 2031, its all for the 9 game scheduling first and foremost. A secondary reason would be the northern flank of the ACC would like to have us.

Now we have been at this juncture before and we have seen it all happen; Louisville taking our seat, AZ/AZ state/UT taking our seat, and the B12 heavy flirts last August. Anything can happen this fall...including another Charlie Brown moment. And that moment could be just a simple conclusion by the ACC that they would rather jerry rig a 9 game football schedule for the balance of the decade rather than make a new club member.

Sure would be nice to play some kick butt football this Sept.

So you think the ACC is actively thinking about adding a team to get a 9 game schedule?

 

[baggerbob]

I have no idea in that scenario.

If a UConn invite does happen before 2031, its all for the 9 game scheduling first and foremost. A secondary reason would be the northern flank of the ACC would like to have us.

Now we have been at this juncture before and we have seen it all happen; Louisville taking our seat, AZ/AZ state/UT taking our seat, and the B12 heavy flirts last August. Anything can happen this fall...including another Charlie Brown moment. And that moment could be just a simple conclusion by the ACC that they would rather jerry rig a 9 game football schedule for the balance of the decade rather than make a new club member.

Sure would be nice to play some kick butt football this Sept.

Part of the reason Notre Dame wins is the ACC needs Notre Dame more then Notre Dame needs the ACC.
Notre Dame could very easily schedule a 12 game football schedule and park their other sports in a league like the Big East again. Or even the Big 12 and schedule a few games.

 

[Exit 4]

So you think the ACC is actively thinking about adding a team to get a 9 game schedule?

Yes- but as quickly as it is underway it could end.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

So you think the ACC is actively thinking about adding a team to get a 9 game schedule?

We'll find out when we hear what the response to the idea of counting ND games as conference games.

If enough members are against it (assuming it could lead to exceptionally unfair conference schedules), they'll look into adding another school. If a large enough portion of membership is for it, they'll stay where they are.

 

[CL82]

Churchill didnt have FSU/Clem/Cal/Stan in the room.

But he did have Stalin in the room, which is pretty much the same thing.

 

[freescooter]

Lol
Bc and Cuse have long been against. They ain’t flipping until the ACC is on its death bed.

I’m not sure about that. We now have a pretty regular series that just got extended with Syracuse through 2028, and a 4 game deal with BC that basically replaces Syracuse in 29. Both series make a ton of sense. Easy trip for both teams and their fans. Those could very easily be converted to the 9th league game. But they also indicate that a new relationship is in place. New ADs, new leadership at every level. Fr Leahy is the only remaining

 

[huskymedic]

I’m not sure about that. We now have a pretty regular series that just got extended with Syracuse through 2028, and a 4 game deal with BC that basically replaces Syracuse in 29. Both series make a ton of sense. Easy trip for both teams and their fans. Those could very easily be converted to the 9th league game. But they also indicate that a new relationship is in place. New ADs, new leadership at every level. Fr Leahy is the only remaining

… and Father Leahy is done next summer (stepping down).

 

[billybud]

There were several ACC's:

The Basketball ACC

The Football ACC

The Southern ACC

The Northern ACC

And, of late, the Desperate Grab ACC (SMU, CAL, Stanford)

Now that UNC has declared their allegiance to football (and seemingly to the SEC), Duke has inherited the mantle of ACC basketball supreme leader (but without their King... Coach K).

The Wizards of the Tobacco Road Cabal had the curtain pulled back and their mike's dimmed with the recent ACC Settlement. Bye, bye GOR...bye, bye owning media rights if you exit.

If the B1G, SEC, and Big 12 poach the ACC of six members, the neighborhood will look like Hiroshima the morning after Harry dropped the big one.

 

[hank970]

I have no idea in that scenario.

If a UConn invite does happen before 2031, its all for the 9 game scheduling first and foremost. A secondary reason would be the northern flank of the ACC would like to have us.

Now we have been at this juncture before and we have seen it all happen; Louisville taking our seat, AZ/AZ state/UT taking our seat, and the B12 heavy flirts last August. Anything can happen this fall...including another Charlie Brown moment. And that moment could be just a simple conclusion by the ACC that they would rather jerry rig a 9 game football schedule for the balance of the decade than make a new club member.

Sure would be nice to play some kick butt football this Sept.

What makes you think that UConn was somehow entitled to the seat occupied by Louisville in the ACC or one of the seats now occupied by the Four-Corner schools in the B12? Did either the ACC or B12 extend an offer to UConn and subsequently rescind it?

 

[ramses 2.0]

There were several ACC's:

The Basketball ACC

The Football ACC

The Southern ACC

The Northern ACC

And, of late, the Desperate Grab ACC (SMU, CAL, Stanford)

Now that UNC has declared their allegiance to football (and seemingly to the SEC), Duke has inherited the mantle of ACC basketball supreme leader (but without their King... Coach K).

The Wizards of the Tobacco Road Cabal had the curtain pulled back and their mike's dimmed with the recent ACC Settlement. Bye, bye GOR...bye, bye owning media rights if you exit.

If the B1G, SEC, and Big 12 poach the ACC of six members, the neighborhood will look like Hiroshima the morning after Harry dropped the big one.

I wouldn't say UNC had pledged to any thing other than producing enough revenue to field 26 non revenue sports. It is core to the identity of the athletic department. So UNC views it's broad based department as a key vehicle to promote the University similar to how Notre Dame views indepence in football.

 

[Vowelguy]

I’m not sure about that. We now have a pretty regular series that just got extended with Syracuse through 2028, and a 4 game deal with BC that basically replaces Syracuse in 29. Both series make a ton of sense. Easy trip for both teams and their fans. Those could very easily be converted to the 9th league game. But they also indicate that a new relationship is in place. New ADs, new leadership at every level. Fr Leahy is the only remaining

UConn has had long series with UMass. Doesnt mean it wants to be in the same conference as them.

 

[TRest]

What makes you think that UConn was somehow entitled to the seat occupied by Louisville in the ACC or one of the seats now occupied by the Four-Corner schools in the B12? Did either the ACC or B12 extend an offer to UConn and subsequently rescind it?

Explain how Louisville fit the ACC profile as an academic institution in any way whatsoever.

 

[Vowelguy]

Explain how Louisville fit the ACC profile as an academic institution in any way whatsoever.

Explain how "ACC profile" had anything to do with "academic institution" or anything else non-sports/money related.

 

[billybud]

I wouldn't say UNC had pledged to any thing other than producing enough revenue to field 26 non revenue sports. It is core to the identity of the athletic department. So UNC views it's broad based department as a key vehicle to promote the University similar to how Notre Dame views indepence in football.

No one has pledged....

Could UNC And Clemson Be The Next Big Names To Trade Conferences

With the SEC's expansion to 16 teams, including Texas and Oklahoma, North Carolina and Clemson are weighing their options for a possible shift from the ACC.

tide1009.com

 

[TRest]

Explain how "ACC profile" had anything to do with "academic institution" or anything else non-sports/money related.

ACC was literally marketing itself as having schools all ranked in USNBR TOP Whatever, it was part of its “culture.” The UL AD said it was their biggest hurdle, he had to emphasize how their academic profile was improving.

Still doing it, in fact: ACC Again Leads the Way in U.S. News & World Report “Best Colleges” Rankings