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[LetsGoUC]

I have no idea in that scenario.

If a UConn invite does happen before 2031, its all for the 9 game scheduling first and foremost. A secondary reason would be the northern flank of the ACC would like to have us.

Now we have been at this juncture before and we have seen it all happen; Louisville taking our seat, AZ/AZ state/UT taking our seat, and the B12 heavy flirts last August. Anything can happen this fall...including another Charlie Brown moment. And that moment could be just a simple conclusion by the ACC that they would rather jerry rig a 9 game football schedule for the balance of the decade rather than make a new club member.

Sure would be nice to play some kick butt football this Sept.

So you think the ACC is actively thinking about adding a team to get a 9 game schedule?

 

[baggerbob]

I have no idea in that scenario.

If a UConn invite does happen before 2031, its all for the 9 game scheduling first and foremost. A secondary reason would be the northern flank of the ACC would like to have us.

Now we have been at this juncture before and we have seen it all happen; Louisville taking our seat, AZ/AZ state/UT taking our seat, and the B12 heavy flirts last August. Anything can happen this fall...including another Charlie Brown moment. And that moment could be just a simple conclusion by the ACC that they would rather jerry rig a 9 game football schedule for the balance of the decade rather than make a new club member.

Sure would be nice to play some kick butt football this Sept.

Part of the reason Notre Dame wins is the ACC needs Notre Dame more then Notre Dame needs the ACC.
Notre Dame could very easily schedule a 12 game football schedule and park their other sports in a league like the Big East again. Or even the Big 12 and schedule a few games.

 

[Exit 4]

So you think the ACC is actively thinking about adding a team to get a 9 game schedule?

Yes- but as quickly as it is underway it could end.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

So you think the ACC is actively thinking about adding a team to get a 9 game schedule?

We'll find out when we hear what the response to the idea of counting ND games as conference games.

If enough members are against it (assuming it could lead to exceptionally unfair conference schedules), they'll look into adding another school. If a large enough portion of membership is for it, they'll stay where they are.

 

[CL82]

Churchill didnt have FSU/Clem/Cal/Stan in the room.

But he did have Stalin in the room, which is pretty much the same thing.

 

[freescooter]

Lol
Bc and Cuse have long been against. They ain’t flipping until the ACC is on its death bed.

I’m not sure about that. We now have a pretty regular series that just got extended with Syracuse through 2028, and a 4 game deal with BC that basically replaces Syracuse in 29. Both series make a ton of sense. Easy trip for both teams and their fans. Those could very easily be converted to the 9th league game. But they also indicate that a new relationship is in place. New ADs, new leadership at every level. Fr Leahy is the only remaining

 

[huskymedic]

I’m not sure about that. We now have a pretty regular series that just got extended with Syracuse through 2028, and a 4 game deal with BC that basically replaces Syracuse in 29. Both series make a ton of sense. Easy trip for both teams and their fans. Those could very easily be converted to the 9th league game. But they also indicate that a new relationship is in place. New ADs, new leadership at every level. Fr Leahy is the only remaining

… and Father Leahy is done next summer (stepping down).

 

[billybud]

There were several ACC's:

The Basketball ACC

The Football ACC

The Southern ACC

The Northern ACC

And, of late, the Desperate Grab ACC (SMU, CAL, Stanford)

Now that UNC has declared their allegiance to football (and seemingly to the SEC), Duke has inherited the mantle of ACC basketball supreme leader (but without their King... Coach K).

The Wizards of the Tobacco Road Cabal had the curtain pulled back and their mike's dimmed with the recent ACC Settlement. Bye, bye GOR...bye, bye owning media rights if you exit.

If the B1G, SEC, and Big 12 poach the ACC of six members, the neighborhood will look like Hiroshima the morning after Harry dropped the big one.

 

[hank970]

I have no idea in that scenario.

If a UConn invite does happen before 2031, its all for the 9 game scheduling first and foremost. A secondary reason would be the northern flank of the ACC would like to have us.

Now we have been at this juncture before and we have seen it all happen; Louisville taking our seat, AZ/AZ state/UT taking our seat, and the B12 heavy flirts last August. Anything can happen this fall...including another Charlie Brown moment. And that moment could be just a simple conclusion by the ACC that they would rather jerry rig a 9 game football schedule for the balance of the decade than make a new club member.

Sure would be nice to play some kick butt football this Sept.

What makes you think that UConn was somehow entitled to the seat occupied by Louisville in the ACC or one of the seats now occupied by the Four-Corner schools in the B12? Did either the ACC or B12 extend an offer to UConn and subsequently rescind it?

 

[ramses 2.0]

There were several ACC's:

The Basketball ACC

The Football ACC

The Southern ACC

The Northern ACC

And, of late, the Desperate Grab ACC (SMU, CAL, Stanford)

Now that UNC has declared their allegiance to football (and seemingly to the SEC), Duke has inherited the mantle of ACC basketball supreme leader (but without their King... Coach K).

The Wizards of the Tobacco Road Cabal had the curtain pulled back and their mike's dimmed with the recent ACC Settlement. Bye, bye GOR...bye, bye owning media rights if you exit.

If the B1G, SEC, and Big 12 poach the ACC of six members, the neighborhood will look like Hiroshima the morning after Harry dropped the big one.

I wouldn't say UNC had pledged to any thing other than producing enough revenue to field 26 non revenue sports. It is core to the identity of the athletic department. So UNC views it's broad based department as a key vehicle to promote the University similar to how Notre Dame views indepence in football.

 

[Vowelguy]

I’m not sure about that. We now have a pretty regular series that just got extended with Syracuse through 2028, and a 4 game deal with BC that basically replaces Syracuse in 29. Both series make a ton of sense. Easy trip for both teams and their fans. Those could very easily be converted to the 9th league game. But they also indicate that a new relationship is in place. New ADs, new leadership at every level. Fr Leahy is the only remaining

UConn has had long series with UMass. Doesnt mean it wants to be in the same conference as them.

 

[TRest]

What makes you think that UConn was somehow entitled to the seat occupied by Louisville in the ACC or one of the seats now occupied by the Four-Corner schools in the B12? Did either the ACC or B12 extend an offer to UConn and subsequently rescind it?

Explain how Louisville fit the ACC profile as an academic institution in any way whatsoever.

 

[Vowelguy]

Explain how Louisville fit the ACC profile as an academic institution in any way whatsoever.

Explain how "ACC profile" had anything to do with "academic institution" or anything else non-sports/money related.

 

[billybud]

I wouldn't say UNC had pledged to any thing other than producing enough revenue to field 26 non revenue sports. It is core to the identity of the athletic department. So UNC views it's broad based department as a key vehicle to promote the University similar to how Notre Dame views indepence in football.

No one has pledged....

Could UNC And Clemson Be The Next Big Names To Trade Conferences

With the SEC's expansion to 16 teams, including Texas and Oklahoma, North Carolina and Clemson are weighing their options for a possible shift from the ACC.

tide1009.com

 

[TRest]

Explain how "ACC profile" had anything to do with "academic institution" or anything else non-sports/money related.

ACC was literally marketing itself as having schools all ranked in USNBR TOP Whatever, it was part of its “culture.” The UL AD said it was their biggest hurdle, he had to emphasize how their academic profile was improving.

Still doing it, in fact: ACC Again Leads the Way in U.S. News & World Report “Best Colleges” Rankings

 

[ramses 2.0]

No one has pledged....

Could UNC And Clemson Be The Next Big Names To Trade Conferences

With the SEC's expansion to 16 teams, including Texas and Oklahoma, North Carolina and Clemson are weighing their options for a possible shift from the ACC.

tide1009.com

If it involves more revenue then it's being considered. Their looking at more corporate sponsorship opportunities, a new basketball arena to anchor the north campus property etc but it all includes the goal of fully funding 28 sports & 700 plus scholarships.

 

[billybud]

Funding is now crucial for many, if not most, schools...

 

[Kolumbo]

There were several ACC's:

The Basketball ACC

The Football ACC

The Southern ACC

The Northern ACC

And, of late, the Desperate Grab ACC (SMU, CAL, Stanford)

Now that UNC has declared their allegiance to football (and seemingly to the SEC), Duke has inherited the mantle of ACC basketball supreme leader (but without their King... Coach K).

The Wizards of the Tobacco Road Cabal had the curtain pulled back and their mike's dimmed with the recent ACC Settlement. Bye, bye GOR...bye, bye owning media rights if you exit.

If the B1G, SEC, and Big 12 poach the ACC of six members, the neighborhood will look like Hiroshima the morning after Harry dropped the big one.

don't forget the Louisville ACC

Explain how "ACC profile" had anything to do with "academic institution" or anything else non-sports/money related.

we can't be too hard on lville and surely it was always ACC material. after all, "No Guns" is one of its core values

 

[CL82]

don't forget the Louisville ACC


we can't be too hard on lville and surely it was always ACC material. after all, "No Guns" is one of its core values


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Really, what says basketball better than a credo of no drugs stealing or guns

 

[FfldCntyFan]

don't forget the Louisville ACC


we can't be too hard on lville and surely it was always ACC material. after all, "No Guns" is one of its core values


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Knowing Louisville as I do I can safely say that they view the five listed items more as recommendations than actual values.

 

[freescooter]

Really, what says basketball better than a credo of no drugs stealing or guns

That is why most people consider Louisville the Harvard of west central Louisville. They have a lot of pressure, too. They want to be Abbott Elementary Monday-Friday and the Winter Hill Gang on the weekends.

 

[billybud]

Louisville was always a "tweener".

Although just across the bridge from Indiana, not midwestern. But not really southern either.

Funny how border areas are. Is WVU, 78 miles from Pittsburgh, southern, Midwestern, or just a stand alone ?

My ancestors came from the borderlands of Scotland...neither English nor Highlander (tweeners, they stole cattle from both sides).

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Louisville was always a "tweener".

Although just across the bridge from Indiana, not midwestern. But not really southern either.

Funny how border areas are. Is WVU, 78 miles from Pittsburgh, southern, Midwestern, or just a stand alone ?

My ancestors came from the borderlands of Scotland...neither English nor Highlander (tweeners, they stole cattle from both sides).

Many decades ago I often had to travel to Jeffersonville Indiana on audits (directly across the Ohio River from Louisville).

In that part of Indiana the locals refer to it as Kentuckyana. It may not be as south as for example Central Mississippi, but most residents (at least in the 1980's &1990's) call themselves southerners (unless speaking of the Civil War).

They also had a greater concentration of Waffle Houses than any place I've ever visited (I've been on business trips to most of the lower 48 states).

West Virginia is a unique situation. Southern states view it as a northern state, northeast states view it as southern. East coast states view it as midwest while traditional midwest states don't consider it as part of the Midwest.

Once on an audit (in North Carolina in the mid 1980's) I ran into a WV native & WVU grad who told me the best description for West Virginians would be Southern Yankees but not to say that to them as they would dislike the Yankee label. He said they view themselves basically as southerners but place greater importance on the state being part of the Union during the Civil War.

 

[billybud]

Many decades ago I often had to travel to Jeffersonville Indiana on audits (directly across the Ohio River from Louisville).

In that part of Indiana the locals refer to it as Kentuckyana. It may not be as south as for example Central Mississippi, but most residents (at least in the 1980's &1990's) call themselves southerners (unless speaking of the Civil War).

They also had a greater concentration of Waffle Houses than any place I've ever visited (I've been on business trips to most of the lower 48 states).

West Virginia is a unique situation. Southern states view it as a northern state, northeast states view it as southern. East coast states view it as midwest while traditional midwest states don't consider it as part of the Midwest.

Once on an audit (in North Carolina in the mid 1980's) I ran into a WV native & WVU grad who told me the best description for West Virginians would be Southern Yankees but not to say that to them as they would dislike the Yankee label. He said they view themselves basically as southerners but place greater importance on the state being part of the Union during the Civil War.

Indiana has 24 Waffle Houses...misses the Waffle House Index by a bit to be southern....maybe all 24 are in southern Indiana...but Indiana ain't south...

# of WH's
Alabama....153
Georgia....433
North Carolina....183
Tennessee....134
South Carolina....171
Florida....185
Miss.......88
Louisianna....99

and Kentucky....62

 

[billybud]