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CL82 said:
Fully agree, and yet it's hard to be particularly invested in the annual August dalliance with the big 12. If it happens, it happens. I'm not devoting a whole lot of emotional energy to it until they're painting "Big 12" on the court at Gampel.
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That’s fair, given that the only firm rule in realignment is that whatever’s bad for UConn is going to be what’s going to happen.
 
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The good news is that since nobody seems to give two craps about this opportunity, except as a short term stopgap measure AD Dave can play hardball a bit. Maybe insist on a full share of college football playoff revenue? Perhaps request 5 million buyout assistance? The great thing about not really wanting a deal is you can force the other side of the table to sweeten the pot enough to justify your pulling the trigger.
 
CL82 said:
The good news is that since nobody seems to give two craps about this opportunity, except as a short term stopgap measure AD Dave can play hardball a bit. Maybe insist on a full share of college football playoff revenue? Perhaps request 5 million buyout assistance? The great thing about not really wanting a deal is you can force the other side of the table to sweeten the pot enough to justify your pulling the trigger.
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What buyout do we need assisting with?

And I think we would not need to negotiate for a full playoff share as we would be entitled to it. The shares are locked in for the next two years, but I cannot imagine that we would somehow be offered a lesser share if we joined them.

The only thing I would want to be sure of - and who knows if UConn is actually interested in this P12 thing - is that the exit procedure not be onerous. If we enter into something that’s very hard to get out, the only thing I can assume is that Yormark told AD David Benedict that there’s no hope.
 
I’m all for going to the PAC for a while if the B12 isn’t happening soon because the schedule will be better. That’s a very solid group of football programs.

However, after whipping FAU, excitement began to build. I think we might start putting butts in the seats to see the Temples and FAU’s of the world simply because we will win. Fans just want to have fun and go home happy most of the time. I’m not sure the schedule matters nearly as much as winning does.
 
Fishy said:
What buyout do we need assisting with?
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I was thinking about our $15 million Big East exit fee, but you're right, obviously, it doesn't apply. Still. if they're offering to pay $2.5 million to Mountain West schools to join, I feel as if we should get at least that. call it a signing bonus.

Fishy said:
And I think we would not need to negotiate for a full playoff share as we would be entitled to it. The shares are locked in for the next two years, but I cannot imagine that we would somehow be offered a lesser share if we joined them
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Apparently, part of the deal for the mountain west schools was that they would not be entitled to receive college football playoff money if they joined the PAC-2. That's what like $15 million per school. I'm not sure that's money that we would be willing to leave on the table. As their pool of potential candidates continue to dwindle our negotiation leverage increases.
Fishy said:
The only thing I would want to be sure of - and who knows if UConn is actually interested in this P12 thing - is that the exit procedure not be onerous. If we enter into something that’s very hard to get out, the only thing I can assume is that Yormark told AD David Benedict that there’s no hope
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Hundred percent agree. However, if they want a GOR, that is a shorter term than the next possible realignment window, that might be something that I would think about giving them. I agree with you that any affiliation with them has to be easy to exit, because at best, it is an interim step for us.
 
Fishy said:
What buyout do we need assisting with?

And I think we would not need to negotiate for a full playoff share as we would be entitled to it. The shares are locked in for the next two years, but I cannot imagine that we would somehow be offered a lesser share if we joined them.

The only thing I would want to be sure of - and who knows if UConn is actually interested in this P12 thing - is that the exit procedure not be onerous. If we enter into something that’s very hard to get out, the only thing I can assume is that Yormark told AD David Benedict that there’s no hope.
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I'd trade cfb payout for no exit fee for the next 6 to 8 years
 
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CL82 said:
Apparently, part of the deal for the mountain west schools was that they would not be entitled to receive college football playoff money if they joined the PAC-2. That's what like $15 million per school. I'm not sure that's money that we would be willing to leave on the table. As their pool of potential candidates continue to dwindle our negotiation leverage increases.
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The Memphis AD said that Memphis wasn't going to get any of the playoff money, it was all going to Oregon State and Washington State.
 
Fishy said:
The B12 was game changing. People thinking that we're gonna land in some revised happy version of the ACC in 5 years are chasing rainbows. The B12 is kinda it for us in terms of a power conference.

This P12 things is....fine. Easier scheduling, good G5 names, maybe a smidge more revenue, bowl access, fine.

And if it doesn't happen, fine. I'm not losing sleep over that lost rivalry with Fresno State.
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College football feels like the cusp of the 2008 financial crisis. Everything has gone up, up, up for a while but it is clear that there are some issues with the underlying business model.

I think college football is going to look very different in 5 years.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
College football feels like the cusp of the 2008 financial crisis. Everything has gone up, up, up for a while but it is clear that there are some issues with the underlying business model.

I think college football is going to look very different in 5 years.
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I think you are correct. Thats why you are seeing so many rumors and movement. What we think it will look like is probably very different, but it will look different. It already has changed so much in the past 5 years. I have no doubt that the next 5-7 years will be very different.
 
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CL82 said:
We're talking about college football playoff money. That's like being a basketball only but agreeing not to get any NCAA credits. It makes zero sense.
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noeynox said:
UConn is getting like 300k CFP money and 500k from CBS sports TV contract. Its not a high bar to clear for this to make sense financially for UConn as a FB only.
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For right now, it’s about:

1) playing for a conference championship with decent teams (better than AAC, Conf USA, Sunbelt, MWC leftovers or MAC teams)
2) stability in scheduling
3) guaranteed bowl access
4) and at least the perceived access to the college football playoff

As long as we’re clearing the travel expenses for four conf road games a year and netting $1million+ on the TV money, it’s a no brainer for UConn to go football-only to PAC 12.
 
noeynox said:
UConn is getting like 300k CFP money and 500k from CBS sports TV contract. Its not a high bar to clear for this to make sense financially for UConn as a FB only.
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I’m not sure what point is - what Memphis got for moving everything is not a comparison to what we’d ask for fb only. What am I missing
 
gioff2323 said:
I’m not sure what point is - what Memphis got for moving everything is not a comparison to what we’d ask for fb only. What am I missing
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Just that as people continue to turn down the PAC 2 the remaining candidates have more leverage. If this were a P4 bid, I would shut up and take whatever we were given. It's not, we can negotiate.
 
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GoConn said:
After today, anyone else thinking SEC or B1G?
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Maybe eventually. For B10, we need AAU membership, too. If we can get into ACC or B12 first, we could rise in the rankings as we play competitive teams,
 
jostar1 said:
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For his video that he posted the other day, a viewer on YouTube wrote (regarding the ongoing UConn & Big 12 dance):

"If Kansas supports it. Eventually, all the Texas schools will support it. If the Kansas schools and the Arizona schools support it. The Texas schools will definitely support it. Everyone wants an Eastern school for WVU."

I would think Kansas would already be on board with UConn joining. I spent some time yesterday looking at Houston's, Baylor's, and TCU's boards to get a feel of their fanbase. Most are against UConn (no surprise), and several had no clue about our facilities (then later admitted we have better digs than theirs), but some gave us some due benefit while also saying that their own fanbase (this would be Houston) shouldn't get cocky as it's not like they are much better than us.
 
WVU is reasonably close to Cincy and is thus less of a geographic outlier in the B12 than UCF. Thus, USF (large enrollment, AAU status, new on-campus stadium in the works, natural rivalry with UCF, and favorable recruiting territory) might be a more logical B12 expansion candidate. Eastern additions of UConn, Syracuse, and Pitt make abundant sense if/when the ACC implodes.
 
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