Non-Key Tweets

[Hoophound]

It's current perception. The B12 appears to be stable, and the ACC is on very shaky ground. Ultimately what happens will be up to the TV networks who pull all of the strings, do they want three "Power" conferences or four.

That’s it. We just don’t know if they will order the B12 to destroy the ACC or not yet.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

The only thing holding the conference together right now is the GOR. If the GOR is ruled invalid then the conference is dead.

GOR upholds and FSU, Clemson and UNC pay their way out? Conference is fine. But if no one has to pay an insurmountable fee to leave then at least six are going and possibly 9-10. Once more than 3-4 start leaving then it's a sinking ship unless you can pull teams from the Big XII

The media partners don't want to keep paying 4 conferences. That's why the PAC is dead. They want to pay 2. What good is staying in the ACC if your next contract is $20-$25 mil per year when you can get $30+ in the Big XII

The departure fees (separate and distinct from GOR buyout, which is what would go away) is a little more than $100 million.

 

[CJasmer]

The departure fees (separate and distinct from GOR buyout, which is what would go away) is a little more than $100 million.

ESPN needs to provide new TV deal by February 2025. Without FSU, Clemson, NC and perhaps Miami that new contract will be less than the current contract.

 

[hank970]

Suppose that four or five of the ACC's most desirable properties decamp for obviously greener pastures. What's to prevent a majority (or whatever it takes) of the more attractive left-behinds from voting to dissolve the conference? Absent a viable conference, would they be freed of their obligations to pay a buyout and suffer GOR penalties? If so, then some accept offers of lateral moves to ensure their survival, and some are left with no choice but to settle for less.

 

[JMick]

The departure fees (separate and distinct from GOR buyout, which is what would go away) is a little more than $100 million.

$100 million is chump change if the alternative is winding up like Oregon state and Washington state

 

[FfldCntyFan]

$100 million is chump change if the alternative is winding up like Oregon state and Washington state

True, but that wouldn't be the alternative. What it would be is a price to move from one second tier power conference to another with a string likelyhood that they would never come close to recouping the cost.

 

[CJasmer]

True, but that wouldn't be the alternative. What it would be is a price to move from one second tier power conference to another with a string likelyhood that they would never come close to recouping the cost.

let’s see what happens in February 2025 when new TV offer from ESPN comes out. The amount will be much less if the top two football teams leave the conference. ESPN will decide if ACC becomes like the PAC.

 

[JMick]

True, but that wouldn't be the alternative. What it would be is a price to move from one second tier power conference to another with a string likelyhood that they would never come close to recouping the cost.

It depends how many leave. If 5 teams leave and your next media deal is projected to be $15/yr after the exodus then it pays for itself in six years. It's a sound investment at that point.

 

[uconnyankee]

I need someone to provide a legitimate defense to the premise that the current B-12 plus any or all of Louisville, NC St & Va Tech is such a better conference than the current ACC less the schools that are being projected to leave for the B1G/SEC in the proposed scenario that the three schools in question would each pay nine figure departure fees to make that move.

If the ACC loses UNC, FSU, Clemson, VA and Miami, then loses L’ville, NC state and Vt, who is left in football? GT? Pitt? Syracuse?

If ACC loses those three, league is cooked. If they can limit losses to 4, ACC easily adds SDSU, Tulane, UConn and USF. Very much on par with Big 12

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

It has been estimated that FSU and Clemson are about 25% of the ACC's tv value. So if/when they leave, the ACC becomes less valuable per school than the Big12. ESPN rewrites the contract. And the others immediately look elsewhere (they'd be negligent if they haven't already had back channel conversations with the Big12).

 

[jostar1]

 

[bobbyinaz]

How convenient that one of the WV basement dwellers shows rankings that has WV rated above a bunch of SEC & B10 schools.

It appears that West Virginia will have its choice of either the SEC or B10. They are just waiting to see who offers them the most.

 

[Ldandy]

How convenient that one of the WV basement dwellers shows rankings that has WV rated above a bunch of SEC & B10 schools.

It appears that West Virginia will have its choice of either the SEC or B10. They are just waiting to see who offers them the most.

#1 draw in The Big 12 as well. Clearly no bias here…

 

[Kolumbo]

This list seems reasonable depending on the data compiled. WVU benefitted by playing Texas and Oklahoma. Pittsburgh was hurt more by playing cuse and bcu.

This isn't a bad theory either V V:

 

[Kolumbo]

 

[Rufus]

This guy is an idiot. Why would FOX agree to "let" ESPN take 2 brands from the ACC and just decide to close up shop and not add any teams in the southeast? That makes no sense. FOX/B1G is getting into the southeast, it's just a matter of which team(s) that includes.

 

[JMick]

This guy is an idiot. Why would FOX agree to "let" ESPN take 2 brands from the ACC and just decide to close up shop and not add any teams in the southeast? That makes no sense. FOX/B1G is getting into the southeast, it's just a matter of which team(s) that includes.

It makes even less sense because the networks are the ones trying to consolidate and force a power two. They want consolidation.

It would be great if they don't, because then we will be in a really solid ACC. But that ain't happening

 

[CL82]

This list seems reasonable depending on the data compiled. WVU benefitted by playing Texas and Oklahoma. Pittsburgh was hurt more by playing cuse and bcu.

This isn't a bad theory either V V:

Absolutely agree. For example, if the data they used was "universities in New Jersey" it's understandable how Rutgers came out ahead of Virginia. Of course if they used any other data, whatsoever, then that's a pretty anomalous result.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

That list came right out of his butt.

How old is this guy? He has been posting realignment nonsense for 22 years and never been right, and he is still doing it. This is way past weird.

 

[Kolumbo]

Absolutely agree. For example, if the data they used was "universities in New Jersey" it's understandable how Rutgers came out ahead of Virginia. Of course if they used any other data, whatsoever, then that's a pretty anomalous result.

Obviously Rutgers benefits by playing Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State, 3 of the top 10 teams on the list.

This guy is an idiot. Why would FOX agree to "let" ESPN take 2 brands from the ACC and just decide to close up shop and not add any teams in the southeast? That makes no sense. FOX/B1G is getting into the southeast, it's just a matter of which team(s) that includes.

He offers his reasoning in his tweet. It could be 2. It could be 4, depending on whether teh B1G and SEC want 18, 20, etc. Whatever the number is, it makes sense to keep Big 12 and ACC in tact.

 

[jostar1]

 

[KryHavok]

Well, assuming some jagoff insider mentions UConn...

 

[UConnTrumbull]

And so it begins (again)

 

[LoyalFanCT]

does all options include uconn to b12? i think acc is more likely

 

[CJasmer]

does all options include uconn to b12? i think acc is more likely

Yes once ACC implodes