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[AZHuskiePop]

^^^
B1G takes ND, UVA, UNC, Duke
Big12 takes Pitt, VTech, Louisville, GTech
SEC takes FSU, Clemson, Miami, NC State

Big East Takes Cuse, BC, Wake adds Army, Navy UMass for FB

SMU and Calford go screw themselves

Why would the SEC want NCS
Why would the B1G want Duke?as they just rejected Stamford
Even the assumption that
when the ACC gets raided
UVA , UNC FSU and Clemson are gone is
not even a 100% certainty
Miami is a key , I personally don’t see anyone other than the B12 with interest In them but if I’m wrong than holding the ACC together gets tougher .
My belief is the ACC survival or death
is dependent on who wins the ACC / B12 battle .
It’s going to come down to media dollars .
Personally if the ACC aggressive
they could have taken the very exposed eastern wing who have been further isolated by the Big 12 western expansion.. I believe if Big 12 took UConn then that wing was more secure and the ACC less .
However given equal money West Va , Cincinnati , UCF , would prefer to be in an eastern oriented conference . That‘s why I feel adding Stan //Cal hurt the ACC in the long run while adding UConn/ USF or even SMU / Tulane made more sense
However a third option actually makes the most sense. Its a simple merger between the Big 12 ACC into up to 28 team super conference
With a bit of history injected into each Div
Big Atlantic North East
Cuse
*BCU
PItt
WVA
Cincinnati
Va Tech
**UConn
Duke
Big Atlantic South East
NCS
*Wake
GT
UCF
Miami
Louisville
Miami

Big Mid West
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas State
OSU
Colorado
BYU
*SMU
Big Southwest
TCU
TTU
Baylor
UAZ
ASU
Utah
Houston

* These Teams or any teams can be dropped from the merger
** Wishful thinking
Stanford
Call gets added to the B1G at 1/2 price
or rejoins a New PAC MW alliance if that succeeds .

 

[KryHavok]

Yes, and it was spectacular! UConn made the Fiesta Bowl coming out of the Big East! Past winners included UConn, Miami, West Virginia, Cincy, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse. Heck even BCU had some success.

True that. Old Big East football was actually good and fun to watch, just it didn’t jive with the conference’s overall perception of itself as an all sports competitor.

 

[John]

Didn't the Big East already try football? Remind me how that worked out?

It was a lot of fun being a UConn football fan in the Big East. Good rivalries, competitive conference. I'd sign up for it again at this very moment.

 

[Luna]

It was a lot of fun being a UConn football fan in the Big East. Good rivalries, competitive conference. I'd sign up for it again at this very moment.

I thought the aac was a good conference for our football team

 

[John]

I thought the aac was a good conference for our football team

You enjoyed AAC football games more than Big East?

 

[NowInStorrs]

I thought the aac was a good conference for our football team

It was... until most of the schools left.

 

[Luna]

You enjoyed AAC football games more than Big East?

No.. I think the big east is the best place for our basketball teams… but at one time the aac was a very good football conference

 

[Kolumbo]

No.. I think the big east is the best place for our basketball teams… but at one time the aac was a very good football conference

The AAC was a very good football conference but not good for UConn and certainly not as good as the Big East. The geography of the Big East Conference was good. The AAC, bad.

 

[ZooCougar]

True that. Old Big East football was actually good and fun to watch, just it didn’t jive with the conference’s overall perception of itself as an all sports competitor.

Also nobody who played football wanted to stay in the Big East.

 

[ZooCougar]

The AAC was a very good football conference but not good for UConn and certainly not as good as the Big East. The geography of the Big East Conference was good. The AAC, bad.

Blaming the conference doesn’t doesn’t stick with me. The school blew it with hiring P, Diaco and Edsall. Along with all of the other problems running in the background that the school failed to address or created.

 

[Kolumbo]

Blaming the conference doesn’t doesn’t stick with me. The school blew it with hiring P, Diaco and Edsall. Along with all of the other problems running in the background that the school failed to address or created.

Then don't blame the conference, the AAC was a fine conference. It just didn't compare to the Big East. Plus, I'll bet Miami would have won many more bowl games had it stayed in the Big East and kept winning conference championships. While in the Big East Miami was winning Orange, Rose, Sugar, and Gator Bowls. and a National Championship. Since 2004 Miami has won the Peach Bowl, the MPC Computers Bowl and Russell Athletic Bowl. Just saying.

 

[KryHavok]

Also nobody who played football wanted to stay in the Big East.

Nor the AAC (at least for the "good" ones) making both conferences decent in the short term but not long term for UConn.

 

[Kowalski]

Yes, and it was spectacular! UConn made the Fiesta Bowl coming out of the Big East! Past winners included UConn, Miami, West Virginia, Cincy, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse. Heck even BCU had some success.

Yes, it was a way better fit for Uconn than anything we’ve had since.

And if the basketball schools didn’t unnecessarily force a split & also force Uconn & others to choose between football and basketball, it’s hard to say if the conference could’ve remained successful enough to attract & retain some good football programs. As it is, I don’t think these small BE basketball schools are ever going to pull in enough TV revenue.

 

[CL82]

Also nobody who played football wanted to stay in the Big East.

I don't think that's true. In fact I think all of the big east schools that ended up on the island of misfit toys known as the American, would've preferred for the Big East to stay intact. Certainly Connecticut would've.

 

[billybud]

 

[ZooCougar]

I don't think that's true. In fact I think all of the big east schools that ended up on the island of misfit toys known as the American, would've preferred for the Big East to stay intact. Certainly Connecticut would've.

You’re wrong. Everyone was jockeying for an ACC, B1G, Big 12 invite. As is what actually happened.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

I thought the aac was a good conference for our football team

The AAC wasn’t a bad conference for UConn.
UConn was just an awful team in AAC.
11 wins in 7 seasons
3 in 2013,
4 on 2015 we average 28,000 per game with a .500 season not too shabby .
We only managed 4 total wins in the other 5 years combined 0-16 out last two years .
It’s a national conference that touches the best recruiting areas if you have the right team of recruiters its the best path to P status .
Ours previous effort was Absolutely disgusting .
Frankly if Army joins
it’s currently the most regional football conference, for you we must play regional guys .
Temple
Army
Navy
ECU
Charlotte
USF
FAU
UAB
Memphis
Tulane

UNT ( Dallas))
UTSA
Tulsa
With a preferred scheduling and an 8 conference games we would be insane to turn down that conference as a football only
for the $4,000,000 Navy gets
+3 p schools and UMass.
We really need to go back and dominate to exorcise the evil of 2013-19.

 

[CL82]

You’re wrong. Everyone was jockeying for an ACC, B1G, Big 12 invite. As is what actually happened.

But no one wanted to go to/ stay in the American. That's kind of the point.

 

[History Geek]

True that. Old Big East football was actually good and fun to watch, just it didn’t jive with the conference’s overall perception of itself as an all sports competitor.

And the landscape has changed. The Big East would be smart to reconsider a football wing that also meshes well with the basketball-dominant brands. Be a G5 in hoops and big boy in hoops. I like the "Ivy League on steroids" model.

 

[noeynox]

And the landscape has changed. The Big East would be smart to reconsider a football wing that also meshes well with the basketball-dominant brands. Be a G5 in hoops and big boy in hoops. I like the "Ivy League on steroids" model.

I've said the same. Hasn't been received well on this board. Keep it small, 8 members including UConn and wait for upcoming upheaval.

I would try for Army, Navy, AirForce in FB, USF, and Memphis all sports, Wash State, Oregon State if they can't get into the ACC/Big12 and 1 more take your pick.

 

[buddy]

I heard that WSU/ OSU are actively lobbying the ACC and Big 12 for entry and it appears they likely will be off the board sooner rather than later.

 

[KryHavok]

I heard that WSU/ OSU are actively lobbying the ACC and Big 12 for entry and it appears they likely will be off the board sooner rather than later.

And what worries me about those two teams is that if their injunction/lawsuit against the departing PAC12 schools holds, they'll have a crap load of money to approach the ACC or BIG12 and say "we don't need a payout for awhile, we're good, just give us spot".

 

[KryHavok]

I've said the same. Hasn't been received well on this board. Keep it small, 8 members including UConn and wait for upcoming upheaval.

I would try for Army, Navy, AirForce in FB, USF, and Memphis all sports, Wash State, Oregon State if they can't get into the ACC/Big12 and 1 more take your pick.

It's not terrible, and since Army is looking to get into the AAC with Navy, having all three service academies in one conference would be unique. But football would be weak and may be bolstered by having Fresno State and maybe Utah State (sorry if I bastardized your idea @noeynox).

The economics are problematic as what is the incentive for Air Force to pay the MWC exit fee? More angst from CR, there are some good ideas that benefit UConn, too bad none of them can happen (yet, ever??).

 

[AZHuskiePop]

But no one wanted to go to/ stay in the American. That's kind of the point.

The American just happened in a desperate attempt to salvage Big East football
However its biggest problem is it was a vastly under compensated conference , with the disparity between P5 and AAC doomed it to be a transient league at best .
We had lost , BCU , Miami , Va Tech before we ever played a league game , back filled as best we could even in the Big East days as a then BCS . Then Cuse , Pitt , WVA left and the fight to salvage a sport was on .
The first AAC year 2013 - Louisville , Rutgers we’re still in the league
TCU was suppose to join but A&M left the B12 and they were gone never playing a game , Boise and SDSU were also in and out .
The League was in order of finish UCF
Louisville , Cincinnati Houston , SMU, Rutgers , UConn, USF. Memphis and Temple . Perhaps a prediction of the future . The Top 6 are all in P5 conferences
Now if we could have stayed right there with the C7 still in .that’s not a bad all sport conference . Still one of the best BB leagues in the country . Perhaps even better than the current Big East.
Alas bigger money drives little money out of circulation . So soon Rutgers , and *Louisville were gone replaced by Tulane , ECU and Tulsa , Navy was added in 2015 . The Tulane add was allegedly the cause of the C7 departure.. That was their story ,but reality is they were looking to get out after Syracuse left . Cuse as much as we hate them was a pivotal Big East program .Dave’s dream or what was left of after BC left , died with their departure

* took the spot the wisdom of the time said was ours .

 

[noeynox]

It's not terrible, and since Army is looking to get into the AAC with Navy, having all three service academies in one conference would be unique. But football would be weak and may be bolstered by having Fresno State and maybe Utah State (sorry if I bastardized your idea @noeynox).

The economics are problematic as what is the incentive for Air Force to pay the MWC exit fee? More angst from CR, there are some good ideas that benefit UConn, too bad none of them can happen (yet, ever??).

You would kind of have to work backwards with something like this. The independents would have to approach a bidder a looking for content (Apple?), and see if there is a viable offer to entice others to pay their exit fee. There probably isn't, but you don't really know if you don't kick the tires.