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HuskyHawk said:
100% agreement. Certain folks on the board are more prone to that than others.

I'm tempted to say Oregon State will probably go back to being bad, but HC Smith was a QB there and lead them to a Fiesta Bowl under Dennis Erickson in 2000. He just signed a new six year deal. So maybe he stays and makes them at least better than putrid?

Bill Snyder has forever altered my view on whether historically bad teams will remain historically bad.
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I'm just a little tired of programs who have never won anything and have been historically bad being given the benefit of the doubt while UConn is held to some bizarre impossible standard nobody else is held to...

We get it, the school made terrible hires back to back to back but the idea UConn can't be good in the sport and no good coaches will ever want to go there are tiresome. UConn has a damn good coach right now, had some previous success before Randy snaked out of there and the school leadership was a mess. UConn wins championships all the time in basketball, brings a massive metro area and they've shown over and over they massively outperform everyone sports wise considering their resources due to conference realignment.
 
superjohn said:
I'm just a little tired of programs who have never won anything and have been historically bad being given the benefit of the doubt while UConn is held to some bizarre impossible standard nobody else is held to...

We get it, the school made terrible hires back to back to back but the idea UConn can't be good in the sport and no good coaches will ever want to go there are tiresome. UConn has a damn good coach right now, had some previous success before Randy snaked out of there and the school leadership was a mess. UConn wins championships all the time in basketball, brings a massive metro area and they've shown over and over they massively outperform everyone sports wise considering their resources due to conference realignment.
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I think Yormark agrees with you. Let’s see if he can convince them. The truth is that UConn has a ton of football upside. We are far more likely to become a good than Arizona, which has been lousy for ages. We don’t get enough credit for our modest success in what was a good Big East football conference.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I think Yormark agrees with you. Let’s see if he can convince them. The truth is that UConn has a ton of football upside. We are far more likely to become a good than Arizona, which has been lousy for ages. We don’t get enough credit for our modest success in what was a good Big East football conference.
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Fun fact: Arizona has finished ranked seven times in its entire football history. We're not talking about some powerhouse. Its football is marginally better than UConn and its basketball (MBB & WBB) is worse. It is at least a bigger market, though.
 
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tzznandrew said:
Fun fact: Arizona has finished ranked seven times in its entire football history. We're not talking about some powerhouse. It's football is marginally better than UConn and its basketball (MBB & WBB) is worse. It is at least a bigger market, though.
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It's a bigger market?
 
tzznandrew said:
Fun fact: Arizona has finished ranked seven times in its entire football history. We're not talking about some powerhouse. It's football is marginally better than UConn and its basketball (MBB & WBB) is worse. It is at least a bigger market, though.
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Yeah, that’s my point. They suck. Not sure why Tucson is a bigger market. ASU has a better market, and football team.
 
tzznandrew said:
Fun fact: Arizona has finished ranked seven times in its entire football history. We're not talking about some powerhouse. It's football is marginally better than UConn and its basketball (MBB & WBB) is worse. It is at least a bigger market, though.
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For all the talk of expanding to the East, I suspect the University presidents are more comfortable with extending their perimeter. Hence, Colorado (the worst PAC football team, but an old member that was good under one coach three decades ago) and perhaps Arizona (who as you say is far from a power).
 
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ec33 said:
For all the talk of expanding to the East, I suspect the University presidents are more comfortable with extending their perimeter. Hence, Colorado (the worst PAC football team, but an old member that was good under one coach three decades ago) and perhaps Arizona (who as you say is far from a power).
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Arizona is additive—as is Colorado—in a way I don't think Utah is. I think UConn and Arizona State (even with Arizona) is also additive. In UConn's case, in part because Cincy, West Virginia, and UCF are already far outside the perimeter, but also in part because of access to NYC.
 
superjohn said:
University of Arizona is in Tucson. If they're claiming Phoenix then surely we can claim NYC and Boston.
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To be fair, in the northeast there are far more schools per capita. UConn and Arizona get the "state pride" bump for non graduates in-state, but a greater percentage of college graduates in Phoenix would have gone to Arizona and Arizona State than is the case for UConn in either Boston or New York.

But... **** em.
 
superjohn said:
I'm just a little tired of programs who have never won anything and have been historically bad being given the benefit of the doubt while UConn is held to some bizarre impossible standard nobody else is held to...
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It's not even programs that have never won anything being given the benefit of the doubt. It's the media and fans of programs who have never won anything pretending they are somehow better than the "others" because they got dragged along into a club that they never earned admittance to.
 
JMick said:
It's not even programs that have never won anything being given the benefit of the doubt. It's the media and fans of programs who have never won anything pretending they are somehow better than the "others" because they got dragged along into a club that they never earned admittance to.
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My brother went to Vanderbilt, at least Vanderbilt fans know they suck and it's ridiculous they play in the SEC. Can't say the same for the fans and media people for these other schools.
 
tzznandrew said:
Fun fact: Arizona has finished ranked seven times in its entire football history. We're not talking about some powerhouse.
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Arizona’s a basketball school like Uconn, only not as successful at it. Their football had very little success despite being in the PAC 10/12. But Uconn football showed it could succeed when they were in the Big East.

Uconn expands the Big 12 footprint in a more meaningful way to the important NY & northeast markets, where they don’t have a presence today. If the Big 12 is focused on potential & wants to be a national conference, Uconn is the better play for them.
 
ec33 said:
For all the talk of expanding to the East, I suspect the University presidents are more comfortable with extending their perimeter. Hence, Colorado (the worst PAC football team, but an old member that was good under one coach three decades ago) and perhaps Arizona (who as you say is far from a power).
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The problem they have to face is why is the Pac12 so unpopular with networks? Colorado is mountain time zone. Arizona is pacific.

This matters to the networks a great deal.

When you look at what the Pac12 had in terms of brand name schools, I would pick the brands in the P12 over the B12 leftovers.

So why is the Pac12 worth so little?

This matters a lot to the decision makers.

There's a problem with the west coast.
 
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upstater said:
The problem they have to face is why is the Pac12 so unpopular with networks? Colorado is mountain time zone. Arizona is pacific.

This matters to the networks a great deal.

When you look at what the Pac12 had in terms of brand name schools, you'd have to pick the B12 leftovers over them.

So why is the Pac12 worth so little?

This matters a lot to the decision makers.

There's a problem with the west coast.
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There's a problem with all your schools being on the West Coast. Have some smaller proportion is just fine. The B1G is about to find out, though, since they took the LA schools. My sense is with just a few out there, you can be on TV all day and generate casual fans.
 
upstater said:
The problem they have to face is why is the Pac12 so unpopular with networks? Colorado is mountain time zone. Arizona is pacific.

This matters to the networks a great deal.

When you look at what the Pac12 had in terms of brand name schools, you'd have to pick the B12 leftovers over them.

So why is the Pac12 worth so little?

This matters a lot to the decision makers.

There's a problem with the west coast.
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Because nobody watches their games. It's always been like this. I used to go hunting around the city of Chicago with my ASU friends to try and find sports bars that carried their games. People are either in bed or it can be difficult to find their games.
 
tzznandrew said:
To be fair, in the northeast there are far more schools per capita. UConn and Arizona get the "state pride" bump for non graduates in-state, but a greater percentage of college graduates in Phoenix would have gone to Arizona and Arizona State than is the case for UConn in either Boston or New York.

But... **** em.
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True for sure about Boston and NY, but I'd add these 2 facts: the rate of graduating college at all in Arizona is extremely low. In the 20s. Connecticut is in the 40s. 4400 graduate every year from Arizona. 5600 from UConn. UConn has more graduates. And I imagine this has been so for a very long time since Arizona has had a population explosion in the last few decades.
 
Stinger92860 said:
Phoenix is 2.1M homes and #11, Tucson is another 400K. CT is about 1.35 Million TV Homes, including Fairfield County.
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Keep in mind that Arizona shares those homes with Arizona State. Also keep in mind the size of Connecticut vs size of Arizona.

A better comparison is population within 200 miles of campus. If I recall correctly, within 200 miles of Storrs there are in excess of 20 million people
 
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CL82 said:
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Keep in mind that Arizona shares those homes with Arizona State. Also keep in mind the size of Connecticut vs size of Arizona.

A better comparison is population within 200 miles of campus. If I recall correctly, within 200 miles of Storrs there are in excess of 20 million people.
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Most people outside of CT don’t care about UConn football. That is not the case with basketball.
 
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