You think so? I don't know man. My optimism meter is near zero. We will still have the Big East and decent independent FB schedules so it doesn't make feel like life or death, but it don't feel right. Need the PAC9 commissioner to something good for once.Seems pretty clear to me that some in the AD are supremely confident we're going to the Big XII based on all this smoke. Remains to be seen if they're overly confident or if they're right on the money.
Back in the day I coached a travel soccer team that was consistently pretty good. I remember at the start of one season a mom came up to me and thanked me for coaching and talked about "what a great season we had had the prior year." I demurred on that and she looked at me and asked "what?" I said one of our goals for the season was to win our flight and we didn't achieve it so it wasn't a "great" season. She looked at me incredulously and said "we came in second!" My trainer was walking by at the time and he looked up and in his Brit accent said "That's just the first place loser now, isn't it?" She looked back at me and I nodded and she walked off shaking her head.A silver medal only means, of all the losers, you were the BEST loser.
Sort of reminds me of when my friends and I first started getting interested in girls and one of my friends miracalously had a girlfriend that lived in another town and no one else knew.........hmmmmmmYou think so? I don't know man. My optimism meter is near zero. We will still have the Big East and decent independent FB schedules so it doesn't make feel like life or death, but it don't feel right. Need the PAC9 commissioner to something good for once.
Yes it is.Hahaha, wut?
Talladega is a great movie.
You think so? I don't know man. My optimism meter is near zero. We will still have the Big East and decent independent FB schedules so it doesn't make feel like life or death, but it don't feel right. Need the PAC9 commissioner to something good for once.
I'm convinced it was happening.There's been enough mini-leaks, between this recruit, the masters guy, Aaron torres, etc. that make me convinced they think it's happening.
The hang-up there is the whole world knows Oregon and UW want the B1G. The Big12 asks their teams to sign a 99 year GOR or something crazy.I'm convinced it was happening.
But Washington and Oregon cannot be ignored. The elevation to Big XII football would be immense. Like getting OU and UT back. So I think the Big XII is just doing proper diligence to see what is truly available.
Aaron Torres did a reversal. He thinks it's only 14 teams. UConn is out.There's been enough mini-leaks, between this recruit, the masters guy, Aaron torres, etc. that make me convinced they think it's happening.
Makes sense if you are trying to force Arizona’s hand. Say there’s only room for 14 but take 2 more after to get to 16.Aaron Torres did a reversal. He thinks it's only 14 teams. UConn is out.
Agreed. You don’t give those schools a 6 year bridge to the B1G. If you can contractually lock them in for the long term then of course, obvious option #1. There is no benefit to adding those schools if you know they won’t be around for the next contract, as there is the risk they leave at the wrong time.The hang-up there is the whole world knows Oregon and UW want the B1G. The Big12 asks their teams to sign a 99 year GOR or something crazy.
Wouldn't there be legal recourse there? I mean, that's an outright lie to someone you want to build a strong relationship with, unless you go to 16 next year or something along those lines.Makes sense if you are trying to force Arizona’s hand. Say there’s only room for 14 but take 2 more after to get to 16.
Don’t know about legal recourse, but yes it would be pretty crappy. Then again, Colorado supposedly had until Aug 1st to make a decision then you take in others after is pretty lousy as well.Wouldn't there be legal recourse there? I mean, that's an outright lie to someone you want to build a strong relationship with, unless you go to 16 next year or something along those lines.
It's one thing to tell someone you have until x to make a decision then we're going another way. Totally different to say we're only taking 14 then go 16 within days or weeks.Don’t know about legal recourse, but yes it would be pretty crappy. Then again, Colorado supposedly had until Aug 1st to make a decision then you take in others after is pretty lousy as well.
Out of curiosity why do you believe that Utah joining them is so important to Arizona?Back to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
You know, that mega Arizona Utah rivalry...Out of curiosity why do you believe that Utah joining them is so important to Arizona?
Is this a case of rats on a sinking ship? Wouldn't each University President and AD look out for their school's own best interest?Back to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
I’d ask: what choice does Arizona have? Not sure they’re calling all the shots here. If BY says no to Utah do you think AZ is going to stay in a crumbling PAC In a show of solidarity?Back to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
Arizona probably cares about ASU. Utah probably cares about Utah State. I’ve said it a dozen times but Utah comes out a winner if it can get Utah State into the PAC. Aside from that it’s each for themselves. None of them are doing anything based on UConnIs this a case of rats on a sinking ship? Wouldn't each University President and AD look out for their school's own best interest?
I am sure UConn administration is doing everything they can to put themselves in the best possible position.
Very doubtful that Arizona is spending much time discussing Uconn- they are assessing their own situation
Who is in the position of strength here. Does AU want to come or not. I mean, they can stay behind if they want toBack to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
Back to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
I’d ask: what choice does Arizona have? Not sure they’re calling all the shots here. If BY says no to Utah do you think AZ is going to stay in a crumbling PAC In a show of solidarity?
The Thamel article said they’re joining forces, and he’s not some Joe Schmo from West Virginia, he has sources.Out of curiosity why do you believe that Utah joining them is so important to Arizona?