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noeynox said:
You think so? I don't know man. My optimism meter is near zero. We will still have the Big East and decent independent FB schedules so it doesn't make feel like life or death, but it don't feel right. Need the PAC9 commissioner to something good for once.
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There's been enough mini-leaks, between this recruit, the masters guy, Aaron torres, etc. that make me convinced they think it's happening.
 
Rico444 said:
There's been enough mini-leaks, between this recruit, the masters guy, Aaron torres, etc. that make me convinced they think it's happening.
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I'm convinced it was happening.

But Washington and Oregon cannot be ignored. The elevation to Big XII football would be immense. Like getting OU and UT back. So I think the Big XII is just doing proper diligence to see what is truly available.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I'm convinced it was happening.

But Washington and Oregon cannot be ignored. The elevation to Big XII football would be immense. Like getting OU and UT back. So I think the Big XII is just doing proper diligence to see what is truly available.
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The hang-up there is the whole world knows Oregon and UW want the B1G. The Big12 asks their teams to sign a 99 year GOR or something crazy.
 
noeynox said:
The hang-up there is the whole world knows Oregon and UW want the B1G. The Big12 asks their teams to sign a 99 year GOR or something crazy.
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Agreed. You don’t give those schools a 6 year bridge to the B1G. If you can contractually lock them in for the long term then of course, obvious option #1. There is no benefit to adding those schools if you know they won’t be around for the next contract, as there is the risk they leave at the wrong time.
 
dayooper said:
Makes sense if you are trying to force Arizona’s hand. Say there’s only room for 14 but take 2 more after to get to 16.
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Wouldn't there be legal recourse there? I mean, that's an outright lie to someone you want to build a strong relationship with, unless you go to 16 next year or something along those lines.
 
TheDrifter75 said:
Wouldn't there be legal recourse there? I mean, that's an outright lie to someone you want to build a strong relationship with, unless you go to 16 next year or something along those lines.
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Don’t know about legal recourse, but yes it would be pretty crappy. Then again, Colorado supposedly had until Aug 1st to make a decision then you take in others after is pretty lousy as well.
 
dayooper said:
Don’t know about legal recourse, but yes it would be pretty crappy. Then again, Colorado supposedly had until Aug 1st to make a decision then you take in others after is pretty lousy as well.
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It's one thing to tell someone you have until x to make a decision then we're going another way. Totally different to say we're only taking 14 then go 16 within days or weeks.
 
Back to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
 
Huskyforlife said:
Back to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
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Out of curiosity why do you believe that Utah joining them is so important to Arizona?
 
Huskyforlife said:
Back to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
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Is this a case of rats on a sinking ship? Wouldn't each University President and AD look out for their school's own best interest?
I am sure UConn administration is doing everything they can to put themselves in the best possible position.

Very doubtful that Arizona is spending much time discussing Uconn- they are assessing their own situation
 
Huskyforlife said:
Back to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
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I’d ask: what choice does Arizona have? Not sure they’re calling all the shots here. If BY says no to Utah do you think AZ is going to stay in a crumbling PAC In a show of solidarity?
 
BigTenFan said:
Is this a case of rats on a sinking ship? Wouldn't each University President and AD look out for their school's own best interest?
I am sure UConn administration is doing everything they can to put themselves in the best possible position.

Very doubtful that Arizona is spending much time discussing Uconn- they are assessing their own situation
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Arizona probably cares about ASU. Utah probably cares about Utah State. I’ve said it a dozen times but Utah comes out a winner if it can get Utah State into the PAC. Aside from that it’s each for themselves. None of them are doing anything based on UConn
 
Huskyforlife said:
Back to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
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Who is in the position of strength here. Does AU want to come or not. I mean, they can stay behind if they want to
 
Huskyforlife said:
Back to pessimism. Arizona using its leverage to get Utah in over us makes sense. If you’re the B12, would you rather stick it to the 3 corner schools by adding only UConn, or give Arizona what it wants to secure their commitment? Assuming the Arizonas really won’t go without Utah? It makes sense that Arizona and Colorado would like the league to look west, not all the way up in New England…
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FourRings said:
I’d ask: what choice does Arizona have? Not sure they’re calling all the shots here. If BY says no to Utah do you think AZ is going to stay in a crumbling PAC In a show of solidarity?
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I believe that the only possible concern Arizona may have would be their state board of regents telling them that they cannot accept an offer and leave ASU behind unless ASU chooses to be left behind (which may well be what tomorrow's regents meeting is about).
 
FourRings said:
I’d ask: what choice does Arizona have? Not sure they’re calling all the shots here. If BY says no to Utah do you think AZ is going to stay in a crumbling PAC In a show of solidarity?
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If nobody else leaves, and the pac is getting 20 mil still, these schools could stay if they like the fit better. The bit in the B12 becomes better when you’re adding 3 other schools from their conference.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Arizona probably cares about ASU. Utah probably cares about Utah State. I’ve said it a dozen times but Utah comes out a winner if it can get Utah State into the PAC. Aside from that it’s each for themselves. None of them are doing anything based on UConn
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Utah could have made the Mountain West accept Utah State last decade if that was the hill they wanted to die with. I’m not sure what their thought process is, but I doubt it involves Utah State.
 
Huskyforlife said:
If nobody else leaves, and the pac is getting 20 mil still, these schools could stay if they like the fit better. The bit in the B12 becomes better when you’re adding 3 other schools from their conference.
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BY has complete control now, if it’s true about the $20m for PAC schools. He has the upper hand and gets what he wants. If he truly values UConn then this works in our favor. Fit is nice but at what cost - as we know so painfully.
 

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